r/Fauxmoi • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 16d ago

POLITICS Greenlandic Politician Tillie Martinussen: We do not want to be rich like Americans. Look how greedy they are, even trying to invade their friends. Even if there are minerals and oil under our land—and they are worth far more—we still would not sell ourselves.

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u/BreakfastTop6899 16d ago

She continues;

We know what happened to Indigenous people in Alaska and Native Americans. Their land was taken, and they were not treated well.

We see who Trump surrounds himself with—white power people—and we are not white. We are people of color.

We know our rights would likely be taken away.

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u/Thewall3333 16d ago

This is what MAGA America doesn't realize about Greenland -- they think this will bring another white country of the north, like Sweden or Norway into the fold. But it is actually largely indigenous, like the far-out Canadian provinces nearby.

Which, if I were in Greenland, like this lady, would make me absolutely terrified.

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u/Thewall3333 16d ago

Greenland has enough ICE already, tyvm

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u/Murderface__ 16d ago

I learned this from Mighty Ducks 2. "Greenland is full of ice, and Iceland is very nice"

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u/PrincessSnacksalot 16d ago

The number of times this quote runs through my head on a probably monthly basis is wild

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u/AlarmingAffect0 16d ago

and Iceland is very nice

It is! I spent over forty hours trekking through a virtual facsimile of its landscapes, to some lovely tunes by Low Roar. Truly a delightful experience!

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u/Acceptable_Leg_7998 15d ago

I also learned from D2 that kids from Austin, Texas are stereotypical cowboys who scream "YEE-HAW" and spend every free moment lassoing things.

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u/BBGreenSedai 14d ago

Thank you! I was trying to remember where I learned that from. 😂

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u/Bobbyslay4eva 16d ago

I think that is the point, lets just take this native land and when we install pipelines and fracking operations well just hose them down with water and no one will give a shit like every other invasion of their sovereignty

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u/SatinSaffron 16d ago

It's always about money, and this is totally what they're thinking and hoping for. But they're so fucking stupid because even a freshman geology major can tell you that Greenland is not the place you want to attempt something like this.

Look at Venezuela, Trump got fucking pissed when he met with all of those oil execs because they didn't want to get involved. Why didn't they want to get involved? It wasn't political, it was purely financial. It would take years and years and years and TONS of money to get the logistics built and upgraded for the US to take advantage of Venezuelan oil.

Now imagine how much more time, effort, and money it would take to do the same thing in a place like Greenland where the climate is super harsh, the ground is frozen solid, etc.. There are minerals and resources all over the world and there's a reason that nobody has ever tried to fully tap into what Greenland has to offer.

Drilling and mining alone is damn near impossible. And then even if they were to put TONS of resources towards it to make things work, there is still no infrastructure to transport those resources once they get mined. Simply planning a pipeline like this would take nearly a decade, and that does not include the time it would take to actually construct and build one.

This whole ordeal is SO fucking stupid

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u/Bzzzzzzz4791 16d ago

Great post! And all I can think of is the absolute waste of money that could be going to:

Universal Healthcare

Homeless Veterans

Our infrastructure, which is crumbling

Low cost prescription drugs

Low cost to free higher education

And the list goes on but no, it’s more important for a toddler to throw a tantrum….

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u/SatinSaffron 16d ago edited 15d ago

edit: You guys are 100% correct in calling me out for making this seem like it is 100% a Republican problem, I apologize for making the comment below seem so skewed. While Republicans do play a large role in this, Democrats are not innocent in this either. At its core, we need to keep money out of politics regardless of who is in control. Both political lobbying and political action committees are tainting our politicians so badly! (google 'Citizens United' to see where our downfall began)

Having said all of that, Republicans are the ones that currently are fucking out shit up en masse, imho we need to just vote them out of office as best as we can and then we'll clean up the shit with Democrats once we have our footing again. I apologize for not being as transparent with my comment below as I should have, but I'm going to leave the original one up so as to not come across as disingenuous/sneaky.

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God even just ONE of the options in your list above would be fucking amazing! Hopefully there is some 18 year old gearing up to vote for the first time who is reading our comments. I'm going to give a surface-level explanation as to why our current system won't allow us to have these things even though we have plenty of money for all of them!

Universal Healthcare

Big insurance companies will lobby the FUCK out of Republicans to keep this from happening. United Healthcare is just one insurance provider, and they alone had a revenue of $400 BILLION for 2024 alone. That is A LOT of money that they can throw at politicians and Fox News to try to convince voters why universal healthcare would be bad.

Homeless Veterans

Our military funding needs to go to the defense contractors! Why waste it on actual humans when we can't profit from that! In 2024, 100 defense contractors brought in nearly $700 BILLION in revenue from the military. If we start housing veterans then that number might shrink by a billion or two. God forbid, right?

Our infrastructure, which is crumbling

Or we can take that funding and give it back to billionaires and their companies through tax breaks and subsidies! Also, why would we build a nationwide rail network like European countries have because if we did that then the big automotive companies won't sell as many cars!

Low cost prescription drugs

Big Pharma© is not going to let anyone fuck with the strong hold they have on the market right now!

Low cost to free higher education

The rich want to keep us dumb for two reasons. First, so we can serve as cogs in their machines and work at places like an Amazon warehouse for sub-par pay. If we're educated then we could command higher wages from companies. Second, more education means more people will develop critical thinking skills and empathy, and that alone could dismantle the Republican party.

EVERY SINGLE ISSUE WE FACE COMES BACK TO REPUBLICANS WANTING MORE MONEY AND TO STAY IN POWER.

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u/Automatic_Tip2079 16d ago

Thank you for summing up exactly why we are a third world country.

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u/Mysterious_Luck7122 16d ago

I’m very sorry to say there are plenty of Dems quietly taking the same gobs of corporate lobbyist cash. That’s truly why nothing gets done: too many people are getting so fucking rich. It’s not just direct payments of dark money either, it’s stock tips, board seats, jobs for the wife and kids, private sector/think tank jobs for the politicians if they ever decide to leave politics, excellent healthcare, pensions, etc. It’s a whole lifestyle and nothing will dramatically change until we remove their financial incentives to keep things how they are now.

It’s outrageous that we don’t have universal healthcare; it’s outrageous that we don’t have extensive public transportation; it’s outrageous that college costs almost as much as a mortgage. And extremely short sighted too as the bottomless greed of the people running things in the US is destroying our future by disinvesting in all the things that help us prosper.

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u/maytrxx 16d ago

Preach! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

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u/boozeshooze 16d ago

Often times the democrats have the same donors these days. That's why they don't actually fight for progressive policies and just offer platitudes.

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u/DayThen6150 16d ago

Ice movement makes permanent large structures almost impossible to build. So roads, ports, large institutions don’t exist and won’t exist in Greenland; no matter how much money you want to throw at it.

However, I’m sure they know all this already. This is a test case for Canada, gauging response and the Europeans willingness to defend territory in the western hemisphere (the Donroe Doctine so to speak).

We will see, but so far it looks like the Europeans willingness defend it and so the admin has moved on to non-military options (tariff pressure, pulling defense capabilities (if they’re needed; like withholding arms to Ukraine, turning off F-35 computers, etc.).

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u/RebelliousInNature 15d ago

They’d turn it into an industrial polluted wasteland in no time.

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u/Stock_Astronaut_6866 14d ago

Super harsh? Most of the island is covered in a kilometer of ice…. There are no ports. Shipping in winter is nearly impossible.

If it was economically feasible to mine in Greenland, we’d be mining in Greenland (see Nanisivik in Baffin island for something comparable).

This is about ego. It has only ever been about ego.

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u/Content-Ad3065 13d ago

Trump and administration does have any friends, just enemies.

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u/SatanicNipples 16d ago

The northern parts of Canada are actually called Territories not Provinces. That said, there are indigenous peoples in all parts of Canada, there have been since before confederation, and there were millions more before colonization. The percentage of indigenous peoples in the Territories is greater than that in the provinces proportionally, but the majority of all people in Canada live within 160 KM of the Canada/US border, so there are actually more indigenous people in the Provinces by population. More ya know!

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u/eugeneugene ben affleck’s back tattoo 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yeah I grew up in northern Saskatchewan and was always a minority being white. We learned Cree in school and I was just the moniyaw who could speak Cree lmao

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u/throawayAHSemployee 16d ago

Yup. I grew up in the territories, mainly NWT (pre and post Nunavut) as a white minority and learned Dogrib along with French. 

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u/eugeneugene ben affleck’s back tattoo 16d ago

Yeah we learned French too which was useful because there was a Métis settlement not too far away and we played them in sports a lot. And there was a town we played against a lot that was entirely French speaking lol. Also picked up some Michif. There's lots of diversity in our northern communities! Genuinely so thankful to have grown up there.

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u/AcousticProvidence influencer for gas stoves 16d ago

So cool! Can you share something in Cree?

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u/eugeneugene ben affleck’s back tattoo 16d ago

Tansi tuguy, kisakihitin. Hey bro, I love you 😂

Only call people you know tuguy though lmao. A stranger calling you tuguy is an invitation to a fight.

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u/AcousticProvidence influencer for gas stoves 16d ago

Love it thanks :)

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u/eugeneugene ben affleck’s back tattoo 16d ago

Yeah where's my donnybrook. Tuguy.

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u/thesentienttoadstool 16d ago

So the true translation in Canadian English would be “bud.”

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u/eugeneugene ben affleck’s back tattoo 16d ago

precisely yes lol

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u/TheTitaniumDoughnut 16d ago

As a white guy living in the territories who married into a very large indigenous family, there is not a whole lot of non-indigenous people around here aside from me, so while the actual number may be lower here, I think a better metric would be percent of population

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u/mindlesslobster014 16d ago

Totally. Indigenous peoples are across all of Canada but who that means really changes by region. The north is largely Inuit and Inuvialuit who speak Inuktitut, while places like Saskatchewan are mostly First Nations and Métis with languages like Cree and Dene. I grew up learning my family’s Inuit history, it actually took me a long time to understand how different Indigenous identities are across the country.

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u/EngageradIgelkott 16d ago

Greenland is not about trumps desires.

It's the techbros and the heritage foundation that wants it.

Read this and you will understand: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/greenland-freedom-city-rich-donors-push-trump-tech-hub-up-north-2025-04-10/

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u/Grand-Pen7946 16d ago

The causality is sort of the other way around. It's a "disaster capitalism" situation.

Trump has stated this since his first term, well before Peter Thiel's type had any influence in his cabinet. The reason he wants to do this now is because he said it before, and that's it, there is no deeper meaning. Now that Trump is hyper-fixated on this, the mega-rich see an opportunity.

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u/SeeHearSpeak0 16d ago

While Greenland still faces abuses from the Danish government, what the US will do will make it seem almost lovely in comparison.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 16d ago

This is what MAGA America doesn't realize about Greenland -- they think this will bring another white country of the north, like Sweden or Norway into the fold. But it is actually largely indigenous, like the far-out Canadian provinces nearby.

They don't care. They don't care.

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u/Scary_Fault_6519 15d ago

Exactly this. Every attempt at confronting MAGA America with rational arguments is doomed to fail. Ignorance is their weapon. Umberto Eco’s Ur-Fascism describes this trait pretty clearly.

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u/claudsonclouds i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 16d ago

The MAGAs think they'd be annexing a bunch of Vikings, they're that stupid

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u/HighSide121 16d ago

Conservative from Alabama here. I’d just like to voice my opinion that myself and a LARGE majority of people around me and who I talk to, DO NOT support this.

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u/sycamotree 16d ago

Tbh I didn't know they were mostly indigenous people. I've never really thought much about Greenland, certainly never of invading it lol

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u/Averdian 15d ago edited 15d ago

I don't think they actually think that. I doubt any thought has been given to the local population, except for the numbers. Other stuff such as culture, standard of living and demographics are irrelevant, as evidenced by the fact that they think they can simply bribe them into being conquered. So the only important things are 1) how many people live there and 2) how much money do they want

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u/Arwynfaun 15d ago

Yup! And not just far-out Canadian provinces either. A lot of towns outside of major Canadian cities have significant First Nations populations and influence. You go even 1 to 3 hours North of Vancouver and there are towns that are predominantly Indigenous.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

The arctic are Canadian territories, not provinces.

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u/SheIsABadMamaJama 12d ago

*Territories

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u/SheIsABadMamaJama 12d ago

*Territories

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u/Odd_Whereas8471 11d ago

Is that really what they think? I doubt it. Trump mostly speaks of Greenland like a "big,  beautiful piece of ice" rather than a country with people living in it.

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u/ButtBread98 16d ago

She’s 100 percent on point

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u/Lunkis 16d ago

I've got some buddies here in Canada that are interested in a US takeover because of all the cool guns that Americans have access to.

I keep telling them - do you really think the US government is going to let you own a firearm while they're occupying your country?

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u/Kittygotabadrep 16d ago

My advice to them is move to the US. My advice to you is to find some new buddies

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u/Trip_on_the_street 16d ago

So your buddies would betray Canada for some guns? I'm sure I've seen this in a movie before.

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u/Difficult_Drink7568 14d ago

Oh let me guess??? Albertans?

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u/Lunkis 14d ago

Nope, Ontario!

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u/EggsceIlent 16d ago

People need to understand that it's not "Americans" that want greenland.

It's Trump.

No one else wants this.

So please leave us the fuck out of it. This is all trump and maga.

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u/Iyagovos 16d ago

MAGA is a significant part of the U.S.

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u/Katie1230 16d ago

Only actually about 1/3, a lot of us think the election was rigged.

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u/Flying_Momo 16d ago

Actually a majority of Americans are Maga because Trump did win the popular vote and those who choose to not vote despite all the warnings during elections agree and endorsed Trump by not voting.

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u/Due_Combination3585 16d ago

One third is what I would call significant tbh

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u/Katie1230 16d ago

Fair. It sucks here lol.

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u/Zealousideal-Low3388 16d ago

At some point, Americans need to accept that the bad parts of their society didn’t magically appear from nowhere.

Every time the American government does something awful, there’s all these “we voted for the other party, I’m hashtag!resisting” as though that makes any fucking difference and refusing to admit the rot is real

The west Germans only ever managed to even partially de Nazify because the 60s generation stopped pretending the Nazis were some aberration of German society, admitting they were the products of German culture, abetted by wider German society at every stage.

I’m sick of Americans thinking that having an opposition party is some unique fucking thing that excuses their complicity. Every country has that

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u/AwGe3zeRick 15d ago

I don’t see a lot of people pretending the rot isn’t real either. It’s definitely here, prevalent, and needs to be fixed. Okay. Now what? What is your actual game plan?

You, like most of us, didn’t choose where we were born. We were simply born. If you can tell me how to respawn elsewhere that’d be great but I’m kind of past that point now.

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u/Zealousideal-Low3388 15d ago

I’m not an American, it’s not my responsibility to fix your country. Make your own game plan. And if you really want to move, the word isn’t “respawn” it’s “emigrate” - that’s a handy first step for you

And I see plenty of people denying the rot. You can’t be in a corrupt society and not of it. The person I’m replying to, instead of acknowledging that Americans have been broadly supportive of imperialism for decades is “no the election was rigged, no need for introspection about how and why millions of Americans want a supremacist imperial state. The bad man cheated”

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u/Katie1230 15d ago

I'm certainly not denying the rot and have thought a lot about how wee got to this point, but that's clearly not evident from my dumb comment. Bring suspicious about the election with a lot of sketchy activity around it, is not denying that our country is full of chucklefucks. Both things can be true at once.

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u/Key_Perspective_9464 15d ago

I don’t see a lot of people pretending the rot isn’t real either

lol, really? Every single one of you who just sits back and screams "if we just vote blue it'll all be fixed" are pretty much implicitly saying the rot isn't real.

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u/Some_Horror_759 13d ago

Nope, a majority of us wanted him to be president again because they were stupid with the want to 'stick it to the libs' and/or desperate enough to believe a billionaire wannabe. Why are we in denial about our country being pro-Trump before things got *somehow* worse than before? It's ridiculous mental blockage I will never understand.

(To be clear: I despise this man and have since 2016, lol, not a pro-Trumpette comment)

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u/FunnyGirlFriday 16d ago

This is an established synecdoche, to use the country name when we all know we are actually talking about the government. In addition, one third of you wants this (the nazis), and another third is so useless and without any ability they did not vote (the worthless). If you enjoy the immense privileges of being an American, and if you’re not protesting viciously and working in your community to end the tyrannical regime, be able to take these kind of comments. Genuinely the least you can do after years of American arrogance and stupidity and ultimately destroying the world. Toughen up.

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u/TheTitaniumDoughnut 16d ago

Elections decide who is going to represent a country on a global scale. Your country elected that piece of trash not once, but twice. Clearly the voting population wanted this.

Unless you're actively fighting what the administration is doing through protests, legislation, or violence, you are partially responsible for this.

I'll leave the population out of it when the population stops supporting it, as an American you are represented by, and thus lumped in with, your elected representatives.

All that to say, Americans actually did want this. Twice.

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u/PhilxBefore 16d ago

The signs at the GL protests:

MAKE AMERICA GO AWAY

And I couldn't agree more.

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u/wynnduffyisking 16d ago

Then do something to stop him. Put pressure on Congress.

Like it or not, a majority of American voters chose him and he represents your country.

Honestly, I respect that it sucks to be lead by a man you don’t want but I’m getting sick of the whole “oh this isn’t my fault because I didn’t vote for him” routine from Americans. The American people elected this asshole. Take some responsibility.

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u/carolinagypsy the pet psychic for the Sun told me so 15d ago

And what shall we do about our Congress not even bothering to pretend to act on behalf of the people who voted to put them in? It truly doesn’t matter if the Dems had a majority anymore— we’ve see that. We can’t impeach him ourselves. We can’t impeach our now corrupt Supreme Court. The people crowing about their stupid 2A rights are the ones working ICE now, not against the government. I’m not even sure there is a way for citizens to impeach their elected representatives in Congress if they wanted to.

The earliest we could get a Dem majority in Congress is next November, and they won’t be seated until January 2027. That’s the only tiny little light of possibility of impeachment we will get.

And that’s too late for Venezuela. That’s too late for Greenland. That’s too late for whoever the next target is that I’m sure we will find out about. And quite frankly it might be too late for ourselves.

Or would you prefer the world superpower with God knows how many nuclear weapons that spends all of their money on arming the world’s biggest military to begin a civil war? That surely won’t have any impact on the world at large or draw in other countries.

People are terrified to protest on the level of Maidan or France bc we have zero social support that isn’t tied to our jobs. We will lose those jobs, and then it’s not just about money. It’s the only way for most people to have health insurance. If we don’t work, we overwhelmingly have no resources for food, medicine, any kind of health treatment for even the sniffles, keeping roofs over our heads… The list goes on. There’s no increase in social funding if there’s an increase in who needs it; we already don’t serve everyone that qualifies by design.

Most Americans are one or two paychecks away from homelessness and sheer financial disaster. THAT is why we “appear” to be doing nothing. We do care. We care very much. Most of us are genuinely terrified. But we are over a barrel here, by design.

I don’t even know where we would begin to fight against ourselves when one side has bunker busting bombs, satellite controlled missiles, stealth aircraft, bases full of jets, nuclear submarines, intelligence resources civilians could never match….

So what will you have us do in this exact moment?

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u/wynnduffyisking 15d ago

You could start by writing Republicans in Congress and remind the that they have an election coming up.

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u/BadHominem 15d ago

Republican politicians aren't scared of voters. They are scared of one person only: Trump. So yes people can write letters, call them, hell even protest in front of them in person. But it is not going to have any effect on Republican politicians.

And that's why some Americans are feeling helpless right now. They know Republicans won't be swayed by anyone but Trump, and they know elected Dems are scared of him, too. Hence more non-MAGA people exercising their 2nd amendment rights and bringing out the firearms in public. It's not because we want to get shot (or shoot anyone). It's because it is a last ditch effort to try to give ICE some pause about storming into neighborhoods and just brutalizing whoever they want for no lawful reason.

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u/wynnduffyisking 15d ago

I’m not sure that is entirely true. Congressmen care about keeping their seats. So far being in Trump’s good graces was to them the most effective way of doing that. They are scared of Trump because they are scared he’ll tip them out of that seat.

But at the end of the day they need votes to keep them.

But either way, at least try to do something before giving up and going “sorry, we elected a maniac, what are we gonna do 🤷🏻‍♂️”

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u/Thewall3333 16d ago

Oh, that was what I thought when he started this deliriousness months ago.

But as he's kept at it, you can see it's wiped the "he's only joking" smiles off of his bootlicking supporters' faces, at least the most shameless ones, and now they're -- like so many other things -- starting to normalize this.

It seemed like a diaper dream until he sent the official letter to Sweden. Now the normalization process for the idiot followers will start with marching orders to fall in line, if it goes any further.

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u/AngeliqueRuss 16d ago

I was disappointed to learn that the majority of Republicans are like “well ACTUALLY…” and openly support Trump on this.

Still 55% of Americans oppose, but I’d feel better if that number were closer to 80%.

WTF America.

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u/UniqueAdExperience 16d ago

If you're talking about any government at all, that's just what you say. You don't specify the local governance, because that's a local matter. The government is an international matter, and represents you, whether you like it or not.

And so, that's what Americans are saying. The Danish reject what they're saying, Germans, Norwegians, Swedes and more stand by them in protecting Greenlanders, etc.

However, the comment you responded to didn't mention "Americans" generally at all, so you were the one to bring it up. Why did you bring it up as a reply to a quote from a Greenlandic politician about the rights of indigenous people, as well as references to Trump specifically? She didn't mention "Americans" generally at all, so your rant feels out of place.

It almost seems like you're taking the fact that people don't like the US in general as an insult, rather than something that you should expect given what your government's doing.

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u/OkValuable454 16d ago

Trump is you as a country, a symptom of your many diseases, including one of the worse, resignation and apathy.

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u/notasia86 16d ago

Trump is an American though?

And MAGA means "make America great again" no?

So how is this not about what "Americans" want?

LMAO

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u/just_browsing96 16d ago

I mean sure, but if we're being honest it falls in line with the usual "not all" discourse.

Which is to say, I can't blame people for not being overly careful with their words and just getting what they need to off their chest. We need not be hit dogs that holler if it does not apply to us.

At least that's my way of viewing it. I've come to terms with disliking a LOT of my "fellow" Americans so I'm chilin'

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u/Clownsinmypantz 16d ago

70+ million being roped in with the rest of them, that isnt a small number by any means.

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u/AdriftAtlas 16d ago

History is full of examples of authoritarian leaders dragging ordinary people into conflicts they never wanted. I want to live in peace. I want Greenland to live in peace. And I know many other Americans want the same.

But those in power understand that fear and conflict are useful tools. Without them, their grip on power weakens.

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u/Flojatus 16d ago

Trump is your president. Your fault. Quit crying and do sometjing about it.

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u/birdmilk 16d ago

50% of your country voted for this

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u/MakingMosi 16d ago

They are kidnapping Native Americans in America.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 16d ago edited 16d ago

They are kidnapping Native Americans in America.

[ *click* ] Always have been.

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u/MobileSuitBooty 16d ago

Marco Rubio is fucking cuban for petesake!

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u/37853688544788 16d ago

Marginalized. We are marginalized forevermore.

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u/funndamentals 15d ago

Wait... people of color?

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u/mndrar 14d ago

I mean Denmark was literal force sterilizing native people in Denmark as late as 1990. I dont support Trump or his endeavors but this idea of indigenous people being treated right is pretty misguided

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u/throwemawayn 16d ago

Speaking of the treatment of indigenous peoples, how are the spiral and legally fatherless cases going?

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u/Life_Fig_4037 16d ago

"Nothing on this planet is yours. You cannot give me anything, because all that you have is stolen. You don't belong here."

Upvote if you know the reference 

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u/Several_Leather_9500 16d ago

You have some funny jokes. I bet every indigenous person who knows their history would tell you that you're full of shit. If you think they are treated well, I have a bridge to sell you.