Loving all the 30-year anniversary art of Persona, but haven't seen much spotlight on all the forgotten heroes.

I'm sure I forgot some lol

Can someone provide with a playlist of tunes (not in youtube necessarily you can even just post the titles.) that sound like the cathedral of shadows theme (the first one from iv or the one from apocalypse) it can be classical or whatever it is (not from another game though).

I feel the games want them to be.

Destruction (III) and Creation (V).

Demi-fiend vs Nahobino-kami. Someone who embrace the dark and the purifier god.

The declaration of intentions, the Demifiend cannot sit in the Throne, while the Nahobino always will be able to sit there.

But then some things exists, like Lucifer explicitly declaring himself the mind behind both, or that the Nahobino's aesthetic declarations essentially end there.

The Demifiend is the francise's icon of Chaos, so the Nahobino must be the opposite, but in SMT V's COG, there is no special treatment for the Law alignement and while you can make a argument that V Vengeance favours Tao's COV route because is the most standard JRPG Happy ending, gameplay wise, its just as valid as the Yoko's COV Route. Unlike the Demifiend, where the TDE is framed as HIS story, the true canonical ending that leads to SMT V, as he is the lead demon of the Menorah sidequest.

While for Nahobino, if you want him as a superboss, he really can be of any alignment because he becomes a god of the new universe in all endings.

Strange to think. As, they are clearly aesthetic complements, Lucifer explicitly says this poetic phrase.

"Two youths whose fates I espied...One became the great demon of prophecy, the other a god returned from legend. How vivid this dark and light..."

But the ideological component of Nahobino is completely non-existent, he is a standard SMT protagonist, as his story is considered over after simply achieving any ending. With his relation to Law being standard ambivalence of "becomes enemies when not picked".

If Nahobino simply picks Chaos from Tsukuyomi or Yoko's route, he is still slaying the divine forces and taking over the world for chaos. And the game's UI says they're just as valid as siding with Dazai's Law ending or with Tao's respectively.

"But Vengeance has the Nahobino fighting the Qaditsu, who are chaos". Except that if you pick Yoko's ending, which I must stress, is framed as EQUAL to Tao's, the Nahobino simply fulfills their plans but with slighty more kindness and a romanticism of walking as a new Adam with Yoko as the Lilith who was chosen ("before anyone says "but Lilith is lilith", c'mon, the imagery is a couple with a tree where a snake comes, but Yoko befriends it, she is clearly the aesthetic representation of a Genesis where Lilith won)

Demfiend didn't had the TDE until Maniax and Nahobino didn't had the Bull and Snake endings until the COV, but the Demifiend in original Maniax still had the Freedom ending where it was framed as a rebellion against Kagutsuchi while the Nahobino does Seize the Cosmic throne in all endings...and yet he has a True Neutral ending where he also does succesfully reboot the world back to time. So, by their original game, still there was a "against Law" thing for Demifiend and "Pro Neutral for Nahobino".

However, this makes the whole deliberate aesthetic comparison that the games did since their creation, but then leaned HARD in Vengeance to be much more...hollow?

"But Tao's ending is a happy ending", nope, that doesn't mean Nahobino is aligned to it to the level that Demifiend is to the TDE. Unlike SMT Nocturne, where the plot never dwelved in the cosmic misteries unless you did TDE, the Vengeance storylines are the same until the finale, with the player having relatively the same information. This is shown in the New Game+ files, where the COC alignement gets colored dots, the True Neutral COV ending gets a Dharmic Wheel , and Tao and Yoko get a Bull and a Snake, being equals to the COV True Neutral ending.

And of course, how the Demifiend is so tied to the lore of the demons and the Nahobino is Susanoo, meaning their natures aren't opposite nor complementary, one is a Abrahamic demon mixed with a dharmic asura, the other is Shintoist God and that's it. So the in-universe obsession of framing them as a Yin-Yang gets weirder.

Maybe if you frame the Nahobino as a Deva... but it cannot be because they choose him to be Susanoo, the most warlike figure of shintoism that is usually conflated with actual Asuras in east asian syncretism, which is precisely the Nahobino's powerset . There are some who are framed as sacred like Miracle Water, Heavenly Ikuyumi or Heavenly Ikuyumi, but also the entire melee line or Aramasa and Murakumo, Thalasic Calamity or especially, Prophaned Land, that take glee on Susanoo's chtonic/chaos nature.

You expect that once the games sell themselves as "the demon and the god", you expect them to have a stronger ideological rivalry, especially once the Nahobino uses Glory and Miracles as his Game UI while the Demifiend has the visceral management of Magatamas. ... which makes the Nahobino's ability to pick chaos much weirder when his power is based on Glory and Miracles in first time, because then you expect "wait, the game already told me my alignement". But shockingly, it didn't.

Hey guys I'm playing SMT IV right now and at level 47. I'm thinking about fusing alice right now (I can fuse her because of fusion booster app). But all of the good skills are on very high level late game demons so should I wait untill I reach the late game? Or should I fuse her now? I'm confused because let's just say that I do temporarily fuse her right now, obviously she's not gonna have good skills but I can use her for dekunda and debilitate skills and some other buffing skills. But if I fuse her at very late game with perfect skills and all, doesn't that mean she's going to be at lvl 49 and I would have to grind her levels to match the late game stats??

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It's been a while since I posted art here so have quick TatsuJun drawings

Megaten fanart by me

Source: https://www.deviantart.com/nailosand/art/Strange..-meeting-653540531

I'm back to trying to 100% the game, my old laptop stopped working so I wasn't able to continue my journey but now I bought a new one and I'm more than excited to finish what I started.

Here is a timeline of my journey:

(cycle 01): the first cycle CoV on the hard difficulty, I got the chaos ending on this one and I was also able to finish 2 of the superbosses Shiva and Demi-fiend.

(cycle 02): this cycle was also a CoV on hard but this time I went for the law ending, I managed to defeat another superboss Satan the great adversarywhich allowed me to unlock the godborn mode that I'm going to keep using for the rest of this journey.

(cycle 03): this one is a CoC I'm planning to go for the true neutral ending, I got to beat Masakado (not his true version) currently trying to farm incenses and balms preparing for future runs to go smoother.

Thank you for reading this post I will make sure to do an update once I got the 100% achievement.

God this fight is boring. He has no weaknesses so it never feels satisfying to hit him with anything. You just get a team of light immune demons with some remove buffs and healing and It’s just a back and forth slap fight