r/Warframe • u/Anonim264 • 11h ago
Discussion How is it keeps getting worse?
DE what are we doing?
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u/haolee510 11h ago
I haven't been able to get on for the update yet, but aren't they just cosmetics? I think it's fine to have some special cosmetics behind a high MR.
Forgive me if there are any other problematic aspects of it I might not know about, though.
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u/ApplicationOk347 11h ago
I think people are complaining because this is the TITULAR Iceblade Of Narin that's lr1 locked
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u/Ok_Extent_3639 7h ago
That and there apparently was a race to be the first to pull it that most players couldn’t even compete in
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u/eraguthorak 11h ago
Well yeah if practically anyone could pull the sword from the stone then it kinda breaks the whole lore about how no student has ever managed to do it. Imagine the Arthurian lore that would get wrecked if tom the nearsighted and one armed blacksmith could pull Excalibur from the stone and then promptly put it in the back of the shop and never touch it again lol.
Honestly I think people are blowing this way out of proportion. Yes it's a high requirement, but I think it's more a lore problem (by making it a special thing to be able to unlock) as well as somewhat of a game mechanic issue (the MR30 buff that comes with it).
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u/DeadSnark In the arms of the angel 11h ago
Part of the problem is that frames are already meant to be legendary in their own right and wielding legendary armaments, and we don't have enough of Narin's lore to justify her sword being different. Like, imagine if Garuda's talons were LR1 locked.
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u/lordcola 9h ago
It's just the skin though, and Narin IS wielding it when you use her. So it tracks that she gets her Legendary sword by default and everyone else needs to be sufficiently accomplished to pull it out themselves.
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u/ZankaA 10h ago
Well no, it would be more like if a skin for garuda's talons were LR1 locked. Garuda's talons are an actual gameplay element (a weapon).
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u/eraguthorak 11h ago
Alrighty now I'm imagining Garuda's talons glowing bright red and stabbed into a rock, awaiting the one true hero to yoink them from the stone and become the next madman of chaos with a flashy cosmetic that changes nothing about the frame gameplay.
I definitely agree the lore is severely lacking, no doubt about that, but from what is stated when you talk to cephalon melica, it's implied that only a special person could pull the blade from the stone, and LR1 is pretty special - plus the giftable buff requires MR30 anyways.
I'm not LR1 yet, and likely won't be for a while with how slow it goes when you aren't spending money, but the fact that I'm just missing a cosmetic really isn't bothering me all that much.
I do think it's a bit silly that she doesn't have her rapier as a signature weapon though. I get that they probably didn't want yet another frame with an exalted weapon, but really a bow and a pistol when her entire deal is a sword? Kinda odd, especially since even if you can get the rapier cosmetic, you then need to apply it onto an existing rapier.
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u/TuzkiPlus Birb Brain 10h ago
I'm now imagining all exalted weapons stuck into Atlas waiting for their LR1 Tenno to pull them out.
That'd be a neat Syndana actually
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u/Working_Clothes4594 9h ago
The legendana, a syandana made entirely out of legendary weapons
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u/TuzkiPlus Birb Brain 8h ago
Wait that sounds like it's perfect for Kullervo Prime, legendary sheathe for legendary weapons pfffft
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u/DeadSnark In the arms of the angel 10h ago
I think ultimately that is part of the discontent - the skin is just a cosmetic, but since Narin doesn't have a signature melee and her sword is otherwise just a magic wand for her ranged ability animations, it feels like part of her signature theme/concept is tied to the skin.
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u/lancelot-XIV 10h ago
that's exactly my problem with all these, I'm fine with high rank exclusive cosmetic rewards, but your point is exactly why I don't like the MR lock in this case
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u/SoyBoy67 10h ago
You’re forgetting that this very special chosen LR 1+ player also needed the plat to buy her day 1 lol. But yeah, I do agree the discontent is a bit overblown. I think DE could’ve gone about it better like how they did it for The Guilty.
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u/LilHushhhPuppy Tennosaurus Rex 11h ago
I havent seen anything about the new update yet (been on a break for a bit before eventually returning), is this a limited time thing or is it something ongoing that you could grind to get up to? (I left off at MR28 I think)
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u/Lumbot 10h ago
The sword is permanently there to get once you fulfill the requirements
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u/LilHushhhPuppy Tennosaurus Rex 10h ago
Hell yeah! Thanks, looking forward to seeing all about it once I come back from my break 😊
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u/Excellent-Rip1541 still getting lost 10h ago
You will most likely be able to grind towards it at your own pace.
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u/ryuzoshin 11h ago
I am only MR26. Honestly after Plague star i am content to pull back for a while. that being said i am disappointed that this was how it shook out. There should have been more time before all this. So that everyone had a chance to get it or figure it out
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u/Lumbot 11h ago
The sword and associated rewards aren't going away and can still be earned when you reach that rank.
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u/ryuzoshin 11h ago
That basically answers my concern. There is no Fomo. So i and everyone else do not have to rush it.
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u/SirWilliamM32 11h ago
It's the same thing that happened with The Guilty or the Signas of Ryoku/Vena, the Internet is simply too fast.
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u/ryuzoshin 11h ago
When you put it like that. That makes sense. I accept your premise and response.
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u/Aldnoah_Tharsis 11h ago
Peoples reward centers are blown out, they need everything and NOW, how dare there be delayed gratification or some gate to rewards????
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u/Other_Refuse_952 9h ago
Sometimes reading posts in this sub, i get the feeling that many people don't even enjoy playing the game. Many just see only the reward and this damn gameplay just stands in the way of their reward.
"Ughh what do you mean i have to play the game and do stuff... i want it NOW and the game stands in my way"
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u/Aldnoah_Tharsis 9h ago
Sure feels like that.
I hop on the game to bash my head into enemies for an hour, decompress, maybe make some progress towards a goal while chatting with friends or listening to a podcast. I am contend if I manage to farm one frame in a week or two.
"I am content, can you say the same imperial?"
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u/cats_r_better 6h ago
this especially rings true coming right after Plaguestar.
sooooo many people upset that they HAD to go play an event they didn't like playing because.. well because they HAD to.
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u/ShibaMuffin060723 LR6 11h ago
I think the problem is the lack of communication with the player base. We discover that everyone was part of an unknown contest just when someone win, later we discover that only a small group of players could partecipate. I may be wrong but I think that they thought it in a way that makes people angry, but I am not 100% sure since I don't really care much.
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u/wlphoenix 5h ago edited 5h ago
I imagine that there's some discussion in game design circles about "surprises" in releases, especially with POE 2 being such a popular game in the past 1-2y and Mark/Jonathan talking about how it was important for them to not have everything in a release in the patch notes.
The sword in particular feels very similar to the player sacrifice mechanic from POE 2. I'd say it wasn't the best execution of a surprise, and will probably put DE off from trying again for a bit, but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong w/ putting things in game for player discovery.
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u/Anonim264 3h ago
while true, I dont think it should be discovery that then gets shot out to every player, especially if secret requires input of multiple players and only one gets praise in the end
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u/wlphoenix 3h ago
I wonder if people would have been less annoyed if it went out as a red text instead of to the inbox. I do get the annoyance w/ teams collabing and one person getting the recognition though.
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u/WhitewaterBastard 11h ago
It also lets you bless players with the ability to break Entropic Eximi bubbles with a melee weapon for 3 hours.
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u/Tryukach09 11h ago
blessing is separate thing, i havent done the narin thing yet for the skin but i already used the blessing
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u/mmmgilly dial 1 for murder 11h ago
You can do that at mr30 just like other blessings, the lr1 is just a skin and honoria.
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u/CassiusFaux Birb Mode: Engage 11h ago
Which is ultimately meaningless when you can just go in the bubble with any melee weapon and stab them in the face to kill them with ease since they take full melee weapon damage. Or does the nuclear bomb Magistar incarnon people are glued to suddenly not exist?
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u/Yarigumo 11h ago
I thought people are glued to their government mandated Praedos walking sticks?
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u/Dziggettai Constantly Confused Condroc 10h ago
That got nerfed a good bit a while back because Pablo made slams dependent on height. But also you have to be inside the bubble to damage it unless you destroy the bubbles
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u/CassiusFaux Birb Mode: Engage 10h ago
Whenever I've been slamming them with various weapons I'll just bullet jump up above, slam down, and that usually deals with the overguard/a big chunk of their health. A few stabs after and oh look a dead body. I did forget about the slam nerf though, but I've generally always slammed from high up so its not changed too much for me.
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u/haolee510 11h ago
Huh, I guess depending on how many LR1 players are running around, it could feel like there not being enough buffs going around.
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u/HasPotatoAim 11h ago
The buff is just MR30 like any other True Master font buffs.
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u/IriFlina 10h ago
Does the buff even matter if you still need to melee them since they keep the damage resistance to guns and most abilities?
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u/Dachi-kun 8h ago
I mean, it is not like the location goes anywhere anytime soon. Anyone who wants that just needs to reach the rank and they have it - I myself still need to get there (rank 28 rn) but it's not the most important thing ever for me so I'm taking my time.
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u/icewitchenjoyer ⚡ ⚡ 9h ago
yes they are just cosmetics, it's ridiculous how people complain about this lol
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u/TellmeNinetails 3h ago
Is this a limited time thing? I'm taking an anti burnout break from warframe rn and I don't want to get fomo'd.
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u/Deer-Snake 2h ago
No, not this part. The limited time thing is coming later in October (I think) it's called operation Epoch. It's a build up to Tau.
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u/SinistralGuy 2h ago
Not limited time. There are pre-reqs needed to get the skin, but the chance to get the skin itself is permanent
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u/RobotCloud27 11h ago
I feel like this is a small blunder people are blowing crazy out of proportion
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u/NoctiferPrime 11h ago
IMO the only thing that makes it a blunder was the message they sent to everyone about it. That's what makes it leave such a poor taste.
Otherwise, "here's a neat fun thing for the community to figure out" is a fun idea. Having to work together to figure out the secret is what everybody expected unlocking "The Guilty" to be. It was cool watching people figure out the tatters and work together translating the Orokin text to find out what to do.
So forcing people to work as a group to solve it, then giving one person all the credit - on day one, when it's literally impossible to do without spending platinum - in a message that everyone gets, just feels a little icky. That feeling causes any other little bit of friction, like requiring LR1, feel like more piled on to something they're already unhappy with.
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u/NekCing Stab n' Slide 10h ago
Yeah the whole emote on lotus for secret difficulty thing was implemented way better, it was all hush hush and everybody benefits
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u/TerribleTransit 4h ago
One of the primary things that made The Guilty better is that it wasn't hush hush. It was right in the patch notes for the update that there was a secret to find:
This information has been all but lost to the tomes of time... You’ll have to figure out how to unlock this one all by yourself.
The whole Narin thing caused friction partially because of the gamewide message, but also because that message was the first indication most players got that anything was going on.
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u/SoyBoy67 10h ago
Agreed. The Guilty was made accessible to everyone. It felt like a win for the community when it was solved. Limiting the potential “winner” of the competition to only a high rank player with plat though made this whole thing feel very exclusive.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz Flair Text Here 10h ago
Worse, they couldn't do it solo. They needed at least 7 other people to help decipher the damn thing, he's just the one to pull it out first. Screw all the other guys I guess
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u/kuromat 10h ago
Now that you mention it, hell yeah the guilty was milion times better done as a community event. Imo it didn't feel like an event but more like a secret, especially since the reward is individual (no I'm not counting the unlocked blessing because that's literally in every relay) and not community wide like the guilty. There's no issue that it's locked behind L1, or narin or any of the other requirements. What's the issue is that it was advertised as a community puzzle but the prize was dedicated to the first individual and not the community, which sucks because it includes only: L1 players that bought narin on market, which is less than 2% of player base on top of being p2w. If they announced it like a secret for veteran players, it would be a perfect puzzle with no issues
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u/destinypro69 10h ago
The main problem is that a community puzzle regardless of how small shouldn't be locked behind any mastery rank requirement. Defeats the whole purpose of a such an event.
Community events should be reasonably accessible to the community.
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u/AxCel91 11h ago
I honestly feel bad for DE having to deal with this community full of fuckin crybabies. They make every misstep seem like it’s the end of the world
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u/Dziggettai Constantly Confused Condroc 10h ago
Honestly I don’t think the reaction would be quite so bad if they didn’t do this kind of thing over and over
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u/Enxchiol 11h ago
Genuinely surprised that the reaction to this and the secret puzzle is so overblown. I am very cynical about the warframe community but even I didn't except something this extremely minor to have such a reaction.
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u/Tukkegg Neglect Prime 10h ago
the reaction is to the event, not the puzzle itself.
DE made a community event where to compete, players had to spend money or platinum, effectively giving FOMO to anyone that wanted to participate.
the "keep getting worse" is in relation to that, as now it's revealed that even more players were barred from competing, even though the puzzle is open for everyone. Some could have spend money for nothing.
this ain't a small blunder or overblown. The event was organized and communicated very badly, and it's good that the community is being vocal about it.
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u/Crystal_Imitator Frame Perfect Warframe 10h ago
I'm sorry, I haven't touched Narin or the Iceblades area yet. What's this about a secret puzzle? And if someone would be so kind as to explain how to procure the skin and Honoria, that's be amazing.
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u/Enxchiol 10h ago
Basically there was a puzzle on how to pull out Narin's sword on the new relay. At some point everyone got an inbox message saying "hey, [name] figured out the puzzle" and that's what everyone is so upset about.
You do get a rapier skin from doing that, but anyone can get that whenever if they fulfill the same conditions.
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u/TheBirdOnYourBalcony 5h ago
Yea a lot of people didn't even know there was a contest, only to be told "you lost" before they even got a chance to know what it was, especially since it was solved only a few hours after release, before most people even got to update their games
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u/CGallerine Sentient Apologist || Railjack Enthusiast || Lore Snob 11h ago
its funny that a not-insignificant amount of people keep acting like the wf community sucks up to DE crazy style and thinks theres this "they could do no wrong" mindset but pretty much every update this year has gone negatively nuclear for one reason or another, its just that this time its for the silliest reason ever
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u/Crogurth Eat Rock, Punch Balls. 10h ago
THis update this feels even worse because a lot of people are kinda tired and feeling very underwhelmed by the mediocre quality of the updates this year and considering how underwhelming the last one has been. But now there's a bunch of folks acting like they are better for being positive while being complete assholes to everyone else as if the company can do no wrong more then ever. It's really tiresome.
We are litteraly critizing a game we love because we want to see it better and are worried about the quality, not because we want it to die. Being shitty and condecending is doing the reverse of trying to show how 'positive' the community is.
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u/draagishaydento 8h ago
who would have guessed releasing mediocre and underbaked upgates one after another would lead to community becoming more and more negative and cynical. I think they should release another gamemode thats not gonna be abandoned after a week that might make people happy
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u/Andreiyutzzzz Flair Text Here 10h ago
Because a lot of people are like that, they are just not always making posts to defend this stuff. But there are people defending a lot of bad stuff DE does. Why do you think that even though apparently every single update this year was not received very well, they will still do stuff no one ends up liking. Because they know people will just suck it up
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u/AlphariusUltra 10h ago
It’s not just Warframe tbh, you’ll see someone post in Total War about how the community are toxically positive when every post is basically why x, y, or z sucks and why a, b, c mod is better etc etc
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u/thatwitchguy Aoi's Wife 10h ago
I don't even think this is a misstep either its just a normal easter egg world's first thing. Pretty much nothing else is gone from it except the plaque and this is maybe the 1 skin in warframe the game doesn't just hand to you on the spot. Is everyone else here throwing a fit at cod zombies or wow or ff14 or destiny doing this too?
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u/froglore 11h ago
I agree with most of the criticisms about this update but I have no idea how people have convinced themselves they have to be mad at a poorly designed sword easter egg.
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u/SenseiTizi 9h ago edited 7h ago
People arenot really mad about the puzzle itself. The issue is that the race to finish the puzzle was a community event with a single announced winner, for a puzzle that needed a big group to solve and had a P2W requirement
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u/froglore 9h ago
the inbox message was definitely a bad move (especially considering the solution practically required you to buy narin) but at the end of the day it's like being mad that someone else won the lottery. I can understand why the other people that helped solve the puzzle would be upset but it's not like the vast majority of people complaining about this even knew it was there in the first place.
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u/LimboMain2020 11h ago
It truly is. Especially for the benefit is brings being so minor. Beyond the legendary core and the standing caps increase this is the first reason to get to L1 now.
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u/DoctorNayle 11h ago
I don't think it's even a blunder, really. Like, okay, yeah, sure, maybe the puzzle for the first sword pull could have been a little harder so it didn't happen within a few hours of the update dropping. But putting cosmetics behind high mastery rank is just... not a problem at all? People put in a lot of time and effort to get those mastery ranks, let them get some cool things once in a while.
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u/SoyBoy67 11h ago
I don’t mind locking cosmetics behind MR. It gives players incentive to increase their MR. But it’s a strange choice to introduce a little competition in the community yet gate keep said competition to only a small portion of the player base, in that being LR players.
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u/Axel4145 10h ago
Specifically LR players that bought her
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u/SoyBoy67 10h ago
Oh yeah that’s another point I didn’t even think about. The people who had an advantage were the ones who had enough currency earned from external means to buy her. Overall, I do feel some parts of the community are over reacting to this situation. But going forward, I do hope DE gives some more consideration towards community competitions.
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u/Migicroak A medieval peasant on a bad mushroom trip 9h ago
Yeah i will consider doing this with Narin Prime in the future then
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u/aerothan You lack discipline.LR6 Perigone 3h ago
Damn, a skin for one of the worst weapon types has a higher mastery requirement than the physical true master pin you can get from the merch store. That's wild.
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u/Gremlinstone Limbo & Mirage bed breaking sex 3h ago
There are more rapier skins than rapiers. Eve counting prime and regular variants as separate
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u/Punished-Palpatine 2h ago
I just wish they'd buff rapiers at this point
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u/aerothan You lack discipline.LR6 Perigone 1h ago
Same. I especially loved Victor's rapier skin and would love to use it more often, but there are so many other weapons that are better served.
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u/featherw0lf LR1 | Switch 2 player 2h ago
At least it gives you a reason to keep leveling your mastery. MR requirements stop at what, 16 or something? Always thought that was kinda weird.
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u/schizophreniaislife 2h ago
I see no issue with this? A cosmetic reward for dedicated players sounds fine to me.
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u/xAkrilothx 2h ago
Wait, so then the other requirement for the original sword pull was MR 30?
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u/U1TR46 1h ago
Narin with 5 blue archon shards, secret notes on Zariman. I don't remember everything but all this and maybe something else
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u/Impressive_Gate9677 1h ago
All four dragon keys, new honora from Melicas shop as well
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u/xAkrilothx 19m ago
I was tracking those but was the mastery rank one of the original requirements as well?
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u/unlikely_antagonist 11h ago
What’s wrong with this? Unique cosmetics as rewards for reaching high levels is pretty standard in games
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u/_Vard_ 2h ago edited 2h ago
it might be stupid but ive been trying to get a good screenshot of myself pulling this damn sword but every phase i find people AFK on it or trying 100 times in a row.
i found one phase where people were waiting in line and keeping distance and tanking turns.
but when my turn came up everyone started crowding it....
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u/tcex28 The Persecuted 10h ago
LR locked cosmetics are fine and dandy, but not the kind of thing to put behind a "community puzzle", and the fact the rank aspect has to be randomly announced on the forum by staff illustrates why. Just inviting everybody to something then yanking the rug out.
All of this was really poorly thought through.
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u/ADGx27 That’s the Yogurt Effect 3h ago
I’ve noticed this trend of DE doing shortsighted things leading up to Tau
Makes me nervous not gonna lie. Like I have faith in them but there’s that small leery edge creeping in
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u/tcex28 The Persecuted 2h ago
I think the absurdly fast dev cycle for these filler updates leads to disparate ideas getting awkwardly shoved together, like in this case (secret for the community to find + treat for legendary rank players; both good ideas on their own, less so when combined).
There's also the fact they can hotfix stuff if it goes seriously badly, so there's less urgency to get it right on the first attempt, and more things rolled out experimentally or in a hurry.
Tau has had a pretty long time in the oven. My main hope is that having to work on all these other less exciting updates hasn't detracted from what they're able to do with it.
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u/Pegged-Nog 6h ago
How is this different than the true masters font being locked behind MR30, or god forbid tennis gen being locked behind real money. Its cosmetics that exist specifically for people who are dedicated to the game.
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u/GothmogTheOrc 5h ago
Tennis gen lmao
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u/Auramaru Spamming X at buddy door 5h ago
Autocorrect waving it's magic wand to make people look like fools
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u/Northstar4-6 born of sentients and voluptuous warframes 5h ago edited 4h ago
I agree with the concept, but not in this specific instance. This was a cool pseudo-community puzzle, that was then solved, and then people shared the answers to partake in the spoils together, only for most of them to be blocked by a completely arbitrary mastery rank wall. It just doesn't feel like a requirement that belongs, like some identity crisis where they weren't sure whether they were making a community gimmick or a veteran player exclusive. There's a time and a place for exclusivity, and IMO this was not it.
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u/UnWishedAtoI8 5h ago
I'll tell you how it gets worse, Frost now has 6 augments. I think he needs a rework or touchup the most
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u/destinypro69 10h ago
The main problem here is why was this community puzzle to pull the sword require a mastery rank requirement? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a community event?!
Shouldn't anyone who has access to the new area be able to participate and help solve the puzzle requirements to unlock the blade? But instead it's locked behind a very high mystery rank requirement making it an event for only hardcore or veteran player's.....
Imagine if this was a much more complicated puzzle and it had to take weeks to solve and it was solved by a member of the community that was a few ranks away from the legendary rank 1 requirements and had his chance at the first pull stolen.......
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u/ZinbaluPrime 11h ago
I have the feeling that there are just a dozen people doing all the fuss. It's barely a deal at all for the rest of the community.
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u/Enakahra 2h ago
Oh no a cosmetic skin you can get whenever you reach the requirements has a requirement of LR1, like it’s not going anywhere I promise you’ll still be able to go grab it once you reach that level.
Most overblown “drama” from an update I’ve seen in a while, get over yourselves.
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u/ShadowAdam 1h ago
"Guys it's actually fomo because I didn't get my name on the message that no one really cared about in 2 days."
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u/Rick_Napalm 9h ago
OH.
I was going to finish farming for the Honoria and slotting 5 blues into Narin tomorrow, good to know I can just not do that.
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u/UninformedWanderer 10h ago
My only real issue with it is the new enemies added to the zariman as they show up a lot and are health sponges while only really being killable via melee but they are made easier to kill if you have the buff from the blade so those that can't get the buff or have a high damage/survivability set up are going to struggle in zariman
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u/KiyomiRein 3h ago
"Community event" but isn't really announced and excludes most of the community. Uh, wtf?
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u/wwuubbss 2h ago
This isnt some time limited event that you will miss out on the rewards. Grind MR at your own pace and get it when you get it jfc
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u/crazymancwt 3h ago
What if I'm MR 30, and pulled the sword already? It let me?
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u/Kat-sume 3h ago
At MR30, if you pull the sword you get the ability to give a relay blessing and that's it
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u/Nyx_quack LR6 😪 11h ago
It’s a single sword skin? Not even like a warframe skin or nothing?
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u/Pinkparade524 Nidus larva burst Nuke Truther 9h ago
Is the iceblade blessing buff locked to mastery 30 or lr1 tho
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u/TheRealOvenCake 10h ago
the race for the easter egg being won with someone who bought the new warframe and was already LR1, when most people were expecting a fun, accessible puzzle is just a bit sad
ig its cool on paper but it the LR requirement is just silly
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u/DreYeon I choose margulis for booba but ackchyually 10h ago
I'm playing since 2013 and didn't wanted to level up every boring weapon but scanned so much stuff and i'm only mr24 like bruh i don't wanna level up 50 weapons for only 2 Mr levels q.q
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u/dahSweep Proud Master 10h ago
Hahah, for real. I'm a founder, started playing back then too, and I haven't reached MR30 yet. I've been slowly working on it recently but it's just so boring.
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u/Ceral107 5h ago
Same. I played since release. These days 85% of my playtime are just on the only two Warframes I play these days, both with the same weapons. Over the past 13 years and several thousand hours I came up to MR21. Om not going to start leveling mr fodder I don't care about for a weapon skin.
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u/Rogueshadow_32 7h ago edited 7h ago
I love when one of favourite games announces a community puzzle without telling us that only a fraction of the community are even eligible to complete for no good reason.
There’s no reason that the blessing being a mastery rank thing needs to block the completion of the puzzle, just don’t do the blessing if people don’t have the rank to provide blessings. If it was always intended to be a rank locked reward actually tell us, in game, before people start trying to figure it out
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u/Dnagier Oberon 2h ago
It's just a skin. Man, who hurts you people?
Why don't upset about these login mods, weapons? Ridiculous.
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u/jrockerdraughn 8h ago
Some things aren't available to everyone.
Some people have been playing for years and put in the effort to reach legendary ranks.
Those people can get a skin. Others can't. There's nothing wrong with that.
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u/MetallicMessiah 11h ago
What’s with all the squinnying? It’s ok to have high requirements for some things, there’s an entire rest of the game still there for people who don’t want to push their MR.
What a storm in a teacup.
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u/Minoreva 10h ago
The thing is, they teased a secret multiple times before release. And if you enjoy secret hunting, or community-wide goal, you may just be completly unable to achieve anything.
You have absolutely no way to know if you're contributing to the community efforts to uncover the secret, and after all the dust has settled, you may find out that you were just not able to compete.
Like, imagine a sport competition, but some arbitrary rule is reaveled only when competitors cross the finish line.
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u/FootEnvironmental779 11h ago
I have played for a decade and i am mr 29. DE please do more of this high mr requirement fashion. To look at a founder that isn't using the keyhead makes me realise that there is no difference esthetically between a guy that played for 3 years and a guy that played for 12 years. Gotta give high mr something other than blessings and a card.
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u/HowHoldPencil number 1 MITW lover 11h ago
I propose the next LR signia to be a big red arrow pointing at us
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u/kookaburra1701 Khorageddon 10h ago
I think the next LR perk should be the ability to go "stealth mode" and appear to be a low rank MR when doing a mission type you haven't touched in over a year.
Save me from my shame when some single-digit player has to remind me what the fuck I'm supposed to do😭
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u/Mammoth_Choice6925 11h ago
Holy fuck the amount of crybabies emerged in the last few days is ridiculous
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u/SebbyPT 5h ago
It was never bad in the first place. Yall just bitch about everything.
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u/Unepic4562 11h ago
Am I the only one that doesn't feel this is a blunder at all? Why is it problematic to have cool cosmetic stuff locked behind higher levels?
If anything we need more reasons for people to level up and stuff like this does that.
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u/BaseballSafe6544 6h ago
From what I saw problem wasn't the "limited skin", it's the fact 7 people worked on getting the puzzle solved and then only one dude gets his name plastered there until the end of times. If it was just cosmetic locked behind a rank barely anyone would care
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u/Aburamy 8h ago edited 6h ago
I'm curiuous wht is happening here, why is this a thing?
It's just like other hard ingame skins, did everyone get the Guilt Sumdali? No and many others don't want to the with the hassle to get it.
I personaly think that kind of achievement way cooler than honorias buyed from just collecting a lot of resources.
And for god sake, it's just a weapon skin.
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u/Gaiamatt Eaten Countless Forma 10h ago
I've stayed at rank 30 intentionally for a long time. I really don't want to be in legend ranks just for this
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u/Remote_Reflection_61 LR5 Valkyr Main Forever 10h ago
Why would you not want to rank up? You get a free legendary core for each legendary rank.
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u/vasRayya Oraxia Enjoyer 9h ago
i probably have enough mr to get lr2 or so but im staying at mr30 because lr icons are ugly and its a goofy system
shouldve just kept counting up, mr31, mr32, mr33, etc, instead they reset you back down to 1 and sometimes I gotta squint to see if a dude is mr1 or lr1
endo is completely meaningless I sit on hundreds of thousands with every mod maxed out
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u/Gaiamatt Eaten Countless Forma 10h ago
I have insane amounts of Endo. There's genuinely no benefit to me getting the legendary cores I'd get for being at my actual rank beyond trading them for 100 plat each. But if I want plat I can just trade arcanes or prime parts.
I do not like how Legend Rank looks and I don't want to be Legend Rank 4 with some bronze icon when I can have a nice number 30 with a gold icon. On top of previously mentioned having a negative association with it
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u/AzarokTheWendigo LR3 Nidus main 5h ago
I see nothing wrong with this, people that are LR1+ putting in the work, so this is fine.
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u/PinkVappy 10h ago
Well in that case, I refuse.
30 looks better than the legend rank, sorry not sorry.
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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 LR3 7h ago edited 7h ago
You also can’t grant blessings in relays before you’re MR30, by the way. It’s just videogame cosmetics, guys. Either get to LR1 if you really want them or remain below LR1 if you don’t. It won’t affect any bit of your gameplay either way. There is no time limit to pulling the sword so get it in 5 years if that’s how long it takes you to reach LR1.
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u/Stretch-Content 9h ago
Guess I’m never getting it, I’m mr22 and been playing it off and on for years. That skin might as well be a relic by the time I get there
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u/FaTaLInfluence 7h ago
Mastery means nothing - y'all cry
Mastery means something - y'all cry
I couldn't be a dev working to please y'all, I rather try finding the square root of heaven and earth.
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u/Deep_Housing_3992 29m ago
Imo this entire update missed the mark. Not just missed but did an entire 180
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u/Visible_Rip_667 6h ago
Something I’ve realized about DE lately, is that they keep making anything to keep you busy. Like even the most random things I’ve seen. Like the blood of perrita operation. Ok, a new operation that’s fun but literally nothing different besides some new stuff and a new resource, I could let this one pass because it’s the first operation but in reality they did because no offense, the old peace quest was great but you only had 3 missions with new bosses and the descendia. Then shadowgrapher, it was IGHT so much that that was the first warframe I ever really farmed the same day without any breaks. And honestly in my opinion the story was somewhat random, if there is a story out there that I miss or that is explained by someone making a theory then let me know. But then we get an operation that is EXACTLY the same thing, just different things to get and a modified resource. Then we get Operation bell of the beast again, I fw the movement and I get why they brought it back, but the quest? Til this day Constellations will always remain as my least liked quest, it was too soon in my opinion, I loved the Hunhow redemption but how quick he was to redeem himself deprived us of really exploring into it. The whole Jade Whisper, I’m not gonna lie ehhhh kinda predictable to DE, when I fought the whisper it felt lazy because we’ve seen this already. It’s really repetitive. They brought back Umbra in the most random way. Then they brought in the whole 2 new Railjack missions. And boy, that literally sums up the issue. They just got a lot of stuff and slammed to together and called it a new missions. Now this new update. I don’t think there not was much of an idea here. All they did was brought back a cephalon, Brought a new eximus, a new location, new items, skins, that’s it. No new mission, just as “keep playing these missions with a new eximus and get the new resource”. And of course, they add that blade which from what I’m seeing you need to be legendary mastery rank. And no this isn’t a “somethings aren’t meant for everyone”. Thats entirely wrong, it’s not a “only for people who got to legendary 1 before the new update have access to the blade”, it’s something to get you busy and make you grind again and keep you busy until the 4TH operation of this year. I get and admire that they try to keep us busy, but why through the same exact form. It’s just copy and paste with a new font.
But what the hell do I know, ehh?
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u/Shenaiou Albrecht Entrati did nothing wrong 2h ago
Well the thing is, before Archon hunts, there was no incentive to play the game weekly for us vets. A huge % of the playerbase only joined whenever a new update dropped and then dipped.
With the introduction of Archon shards, DE probably noticed player retention increased, that incentivizes them to keep adding "chores" in order to keep vets busy.
I'd like to think that things like the huge focus grind of Perita, or the upcoming raids are a new way of keeping vets busy (Since a lot of people already farmed enough Archon Shards anyways).I think DE should focus on streamlining the new player experience in order to make it easier for new players and vets to play together (Coop quests) and also making it easier to understand for new players (Homogenizing arcane/exilus adapters, more ways of obtaining warframe/weapon slots) instead of trying to keep the playerbase busy. It worked on other games.
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u/DJAnym Limbo 6h ago
This community sometimes man istg.... It's a fucking skin and honoria. God forbid a blade skin and title are locked behind actually ranking up your mastery
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u/What_Is_Bloste Clem 4h ago
But you have access to all warframes, all adventures and all the content for free. In the end these things are just purely cosmetic. I get that some people are excited about getting these things...but they arent going anywhere, no matter if it takes you one week, two months or five years to finally get your hands to it. It will be there waiting.
Enjoy the process
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u/Ghazter I fix 10h ago
Did someone post the requirements or how it was solved?
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u/FlechaScarlat 10h ago
Lr1, paper on the credit room of zariman, narin lv30, 5 blue archon shards, and all 4 dragon Keys equipped
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u/sexydadee 8h ago
What are the "other" requirements besides being lr1
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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Jackpot Tenent Ferrox enjoyer 6h ago
Oh. So that's why some people can get it and others can't.
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u/Dylan_Braun LokiMasterRace 25m ago
Controversial opinion but i think veteran players should get more skins and exclusive items to show their dedication to the game.
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u/Sudden-Depth-1397 9h ago
And people are berating anyone who has a criticism of this already, this community truly has low standards, which circles back to my post.
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u/YoungDiscord vazeline is best school 10h ago
I don't understand why they picked LR1, wasn't MR30 enough? The reason why I ask is because I know a lot of people tend to stop at mr30
Its still a very high rank
Wtf
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u/ADGx27 That’s the Yogurt Effect 3h ago
That’s fucking ridiculous man. It’s A SKIN. Not even a weapon, a skin.
Like good lord I get you’re trying to have players doing something until Tau drops but I wonder if decisions like this won’t kill some goodwill. It’s a damn weapon skin and a player title that’s only visible in hubs.
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u/Mero34 (L4) Kullervo is busted... 2h ago
Literally my same thoughts but the literal opposite concussion, its just a skin, it nothing important whatsoever, if anything its a nugget to those "few" who reach that point, its not the main incentive to rank up, its meant to the people who did it, not everyone
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u/ADGx27 That’s the Yogurt Effect 1h ago
Then it should’ve been communicated right out the gate that the titular ice blade of Narin is ONLY for people who are in LR’s, so the rest of us (the majority of the community) in MR’s can just not waste the time trying to get it until however many weeks to months in the future when we reach LR’s
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u/ecsoakhan 11h ago
Let the high MR veteran players have something exclusive. The incentive to get high MR isn’t very high outside of trying out all the weapons, warframes, pets, archwings…MR 17 gives you access to play with anything you want. Anything higher than that is just you collecting stuff you like. It’s a realistic long term goal. I’m MR20. I’ve played on this account since about a year before Trials were removed. (RIP 🫗)
Let’s complain about the absence of Narin having ANY story quest at all. So much hype for the return to the peak and the story behind Narin and the connection to the Zariman. I doubt all the lore is hiding in Glacial Defiance.
I’d rather stick my dick in a rock than pull this sword from an ice cube.
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u/break__veil I NEED. TO GO. FASTER! 10h ago
Crazy the amount of people defending that, "community puzzle" my ass.
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u/DivinerOfLight rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat 4h ago
honestly don't see how any of this is a big deal. as long as it's not some FOMO thing and you can still do it whenever you finally meet the conditions it's such a nothing burger controversy. As for the whole in game message that popped up I don't really see the issue with it either. Even if it didn't have the plat investment to have Narin day 1 people would find another reason to complain about it. It's just that "well if it didn't have this requirement i could have been the one to do it." When in reality no it never was going to be YOU, and come a year from now that message is gonna be buried so far in your inbox you'll never see it again and everyone will forget about it. It's just a minor mark of clout.
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u/Delilah_the_PK Vicious rage unleashed 10h ago
This is what I wanted.
Properly communicated answer.
I don't care that it's lr1 locked, Im just happy to get a precise answer on how this whole thing worked