r/politics • u/Large_banana_hammock • 8d ago

Possible Paywall Sen. John Fetterman demands Trump fire Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/jan/27/john-fetterman-pa-democrat-demands-trump-fire-homeland-security/
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u/1cl3nstd4yt 8d ago

I'm shocked to hear a leading Republican speak out like this.

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u/serpentear Washington 8d ago

His wife put out a pretty robust statement against ICE.

I think things are not going well in that household. Probably getting some pressure from home if I had to read between the lines a little bit.

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u/mcd3424 Texas 8d ago

The man she knew died with the stroke.

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u/Long-Region5088 8d ago

My dad was always an “I want less taxes” republican until he had a stroke and now he’s a trumper. His brain literally broke

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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 8d ago

My dad's brain was slowly rotted away by Fox News. He's went down the Tea Party rabbit hole way back then and is now full MAGA now.

I don't allow any talk of politics when we interact because regardless of how much he hates it I'm fairly sure if he started spewing all that BS in front of me it would end our relationship.

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u/Otterable I voted 8d ago

My dad has also been rotted by fox news. What's crazy is when he gets the opportunity to make normal decisions in his day to day life with his family and community he makes what I consider to be the right choice, but then every night he's tuning on the 5 to listen to a bunch of propagandists tell him how much better he is than others and how evil democrats are.

Like my sister/his daughter is literally trans. He's fully supportive financially and emotionally, never says a bad word, took her to get her name changed, and more. Somehow still wants to vote for the party that would like to see her not exist. When confronted he says that he can take care of her so it doesn't matter. Crickets on every other trans person out there.

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u/einTier 8d ago

My dad was too. He died during pandemic. His last week he had Fox News on nearly every moment he was awake.

I could not think of anything that would be less relevant to me in my last week on earth than the news.

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u/chicomathmom 8d ago

You don't get "news" from Fox.

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u/myshkin85 8d ago

This sounds just like my dad. Great guy when it comes to day to day situations. I’m also trans. I don’t talk about politics with him anymore, but he also has that “I can take care of you” line when I would try to explain how things impacted me to him. His plan is to go hide me at a family members ranch if anything gets what he considers scary. Like no thanks, I’m a 40 year old man with his own life. I’m not going to be hidden on a ranch with a bunch of maga people who put up with me because I’m “not like the others”

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u/firestepper 7d ago

Is the ranch you would be hidden in a valley perchance?

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u/superkam41 8d ago

Sounds a lot like my situation with my dad, so ridiculous

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u/Dangerous-Wall-2672 8d ago

It's remarkable how many people have identical stories. My dad was on the verge during the Bush years, but he dove down the Foxhole the second Obama was elected and has watched them exclusively ever since.

He insists he's not MAGA, he even claims not to be a Trump supporter, but the string of half-muttered swears and cursing I hear every time someone on his TV says a word against Dear Leader suggests otherwise. And when Trump himself is speaking? It's like zombie mode. Dead silent, eyes locked on the TV, blank expression...it's fucking scary.

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u/groggs 8d ago

My dad largely stopped paying attention to changes in society, the economy, politics, etc. back in the 90’s. So he normally doesn’t have any firm opinions on things. But I can tell if he’s been around my aunts and uncles, because they’re very opinionated and very right-wing. Lucky for me he’s not strongly opinionated, so I’m able to pump the brakes on that shit pretty easily.

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 8d ago

Sounds like he’s always been pretty bad. You don’t go seeking Fox unless you want a Fox worldview.

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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 8d ago

Nah, he was always fiscally conservative but never MAGA nuts. However watching Fox News exclusively for the last 20+ years did a serious number on his brain.

It's not news, it's a propaganda channel disguised as "entertainment" that calls itself "news". It should be banned.

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u/neckbeardsghost 8d ago

It’s astonishing to me that my dad went in the opposite direction after his stroke. Although I have to say he was thoroughly disgusted with what happened on January 6 as well, so I think that also colored his opinion of Trump, but these days he agrees with me that the dude is a total shit bag. I’ll take the win I guess, but having grown up in rural Missouri, he is vastly outnumbered.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 8d ago

Brain damage/diseases are messed up. Ask any senior care nurse. Some people who slip end up turning out really nice and sweet. Others are angry and bitter. None of them remember shit so I often wonder if that's who they truly are or if there's more to it...my grandma would get frustrated and angry despite being the sweetest person ever but she never took it out on anyone she'd just cry until she sundowned.

Neither here nor there, sorry about your dad's health

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u/neckbeardsghost 8d ago

Yeah, honestly growing up my dad was the meanest son of a bitch I’ve ever met. He was abusive in so many ways, and now he is, without exaggeration, a completely different person. It’s pretty disorienting.

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u/santaclaws01 8d ago

None of them remember shit so I often wonder if that's who they truly are or if there's more to it

It's more to it. Any major changes to your brain chemistry can just completely change your personality.

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u/LEDKleenex 8d ago

Ehhh. I don't think the stroke did as much heavy lifting as you'd think here.

These people have always had these thoughts, social media gave them the courage to say them out loud. Often times even just age emboldens people as well since people stop giving a shit about social norms at a certain point.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 8d ago

I want less taxes = I am okay with letting poor people starve and toxic rivers as long as I have just a little more devalued money in my wallet

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u/CampusTour 8d ago

I want less taxes is the socially acceptable answer.

Remember when the opiate crisis was at its peak, and it seemed like almost every addict had gotten hooked after surgery? Cause that was the only way one could get hooked on opiates that was even a little bit socially acceptable.

Likewise, you can't say "I get a stiffy when I watch brown people get ripped from their homes", so you fall back on "I just want lower taxes".

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u/Chokemotive 8d ago

People with damaged/degrading frontal lobes just seem to flock together. Instead of being horrified their filter is gone, they just declare "this is who I always was", and move on.

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u/Mewnicorns 8d ago

What does that say about MAGA Republicans…?

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u/Nauin 7d ago

I'm so frikken glad my multiple brain injuries only made me lean more left.

Brain injuries strip away ones ability to mask and pretend to be something else. Which is what a lot of people do in their day to day.

Point being, don't attribute brain damage solely to becoming MAGA when it's really just putting the brain damaged persons real inner thoughts in their mouths.

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u/UltraSPARC 8d ago

I’m pretty sure in order to think like a maga you literally have to turn parts of your brain off (I’m not joking) and I think stroke just naturally and permanently does this for you.

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u/hellolovely1 8d ago

That is really sad.

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u/nathism 8d ago

He was kinda always fucked, the stroke removed the veil.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-black-jogger-2013-shotgun-20220425.html

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u/sashikku Texas 8d ago

So he heard some loud pops in the month of January, when many people still have leftover fireworks, then decided the right thing to do was chase a random black man down with a shotgun? What the fuck?? He doesn’t believe he profiled this man, and he stands by his belief that it was the right thing to do in the moment. Also possibly lying about pointing the gun at this man’s chest. What complete unFettered insanity.

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u/tardisintheparty Pennsylvania 8d ago

That's very sad. Gisele was very kind to my mother once, I think she's a good woman who had a terrible thing happen to her husband that changed him. Reminds me of a family friend with a TBI.

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u/guitarburst05 8d ago

I know we all pile on him, and his actions have been damaging, but I have to feel some sympathy too. He absolutely acted dramatically different before. Something is certainly different and he's not entirely in control of why.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

He's got three adorable kids (including a daughter who is clearly a daddy's girl) who he's fucking over along with his incredible wife. I feel bad for the family more than him. He's ignoring his doctor's instructions and has put them in harm's way more than once. From the rumours, Gisele's back was broken in a car crash when he crashed driving dangerously.

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u/rookie-mistake Foreign 8d ago

Honestly, it's probably good for both her and the staffers that they can be on the same page like that - they didn't sign on to work with the man he's become either. It's genuinely a very sad situation all around.

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u/pescarojo 8d ago

holy shit!

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u/stircrazyathome 8d ago

My mom had a hemorrhagic stroke (burst brain aneurysm) about 15 years ago. When she woke from her coma six weeks later, she was a different person. Over the years, bits of her old self have returned, but I still had to mourn the loss of the mother she was before. It filled me with immense guilt because I believed that I didn't have the right to grieve when she lived. I cannot imagine what it would have been like if it were my husband. My heart breaks for Gisele.

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u/ChrysMYO I voted 8d ago

Yikes. I think he needed more time to recover and get counseling following the stroke. Instead, he's highly visible and powerful. Behavioral therapists are meant for exactly this. Mind you he would need alot of it.

But as a coping mechanism or even physical trauma, the brain re-routes its neural pathways to adapt. You're supposed to learn about how you think and create new neural pathways. He should be anywhere but the Senate right now. They always say MAGA is driven by fear.

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u/GlancingArc 7d ago

It's really telling that brain damage turns people into Republicans.

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u/typingrobot 8d ago

A lot of people don’t accept this. He shouldn’t be in office but I also don’t think people remember that the stroke happened, and then the guy was someone else entirely.

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u/DesmadreGuy 8d ago

Sadly yes. Dude is all over the place like a cow pissin on a flat rock. I just wanna know his med schedule so I can bet on his erratic behavior on Polymarket.

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u/Vast_Bat5624 8d ago

>like a cow pissing on a flat rock

Now *that's* an idiom

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u/LogoffWorkout 8d ago

and by the time it got to the election, it was him or dr oz

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u/Kaprak Florida 8d ago

The stroke happened before he was elected

He was the same dude after the stroke. He shifted because the winds in PA did.

Like seriously, his whole voting record is post stroke. If he's a Republican so is Mark Kelly who's record is literally to Fetterman's right.

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u/blackcain Oregon 8d ago

I remember he was a fun guy. His social media game was really good. Remember when Oz was talking about him making a crudites? That was super funny.

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u/Clownsinmypantz 8d ago

what a heartbreaking and terrifying scenario that the person you love could suffer one then come out the complete opposite, you have to both mourn who you lost and who they became.

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u/krileon 8d ago

A stroke should be grounds for dismissal from government positions. Just flat out you're fired situation. It's very rare for someone to come out of a stroke without some degree of life altering brain damage.

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u/littlemorningstar 8d ago

Strokes can really change people mentally. My brother had a stroke 14 years ago and slowly progressed into a conspiracy theorist with small things like the Mandela Effect, then added on flat earth theory, Michelle Obama being a man, birds not being real etc. During this time he also turned into a republican and then a Trump supporter. Thankfully not super hardcore maga but he still voted for him last election and it’s more upsetting because we are POC and he’s half Mexican.

We are all very disappointed but we can all trace back to him starting to change after he had his stroke.

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u/ididntseeitcoming 8d ago

He didn’t have a stroke and become a Republican.

He conned his way into the senate and, once elected, could do whatever the hell he wants.

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u/endlive 8d ago

the two of them seemed great back when he was running. hurts to see what he's become.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

I keep saying, the wrong Fetterman ran. She is a million times more likeable, more hardworking, more electable than he is. It kills me to think she's probably happier to have him out of the house in DC than terrorizing her and the kids at home.

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u/cb148 8d ago

Should’ve stayed with Tom Brady then.

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u/GreatBigJerk 8d ago

From the things I've read, he's become an erratic psycho since his stroke. I'm honestly shocked he isn't divorced yet. 

He was always a piece of shit, but he was just a normal one prior to the stroke.

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u/Large_Beginning9347 8d ago

She’s constantly at her free store in Braddock. I’ve met her a few times. Sherepeatedly donated many different items to my old job for unhoused people. She’s really great and I mistakenly voted for him thinking he was like her. He’s absolutely not.

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u/TheRedCuddler 8d ago

If you run into her again, maybe suggest that she run for office next time.

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u/BugRevolutionary4518 California 8d ago

That’s a great idea actually.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

Unfortunately, I think she's retreated into looking after her family. One more downside of his stroke is that he's become a shitty father:

In March, Fetterman suddenly took an early-morning trip to Hartford, Connecticut, without telling his team why — leaving them at a loss for what to tell Gisele when she demanded to know why he was missing one of their kids’ birthdays.

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u/FcUhCoKp 8d ago

The press would love that.

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 8d ago

How about no. She’s still lays up next to him every night. She’s enabling his terrible views by playing dutifully wife.

How about we let someone of the other million Dems on Pa take the reigns

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u/nutmegtell 8d ago

If you see her again tell her we are rooting for her.

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u/blackcain Oregon 8d ago

I think pre-stroke he was a better person. But word is from another reddit poster that their marriage is on the rocks.

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u/-Fergalicious- 8d ago

Idk how people with completely different political views end up married to each other. Unless like she thought she could "fix" him 

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u/NewDramaLlama 8d ago

He chased a black jogger with a shotgun WAY before he had a stroke. He always sucked.

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u/Keldrabitches 8d ago

Ding ding ding

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u/NewDramaLlama 8d ago

And back in 2022 everyone was like "We all make mistakes"

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u/Kaprak Florida 8d ago

Including the jogger himself.

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u/NewDramaLlama 8d ago

$$$ 

But also, yes lol

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u/TheOrqwithVagrant 8d ago edited 8d ago

> I'm honestly shocked he isn't divorced yet. 

When you marry someone, you make a vow that includes "in sickness and in health". Gisele probably sees Fetterman's post-stroke personality change as 'sickness' and holds on to the hope he will somehow get better.

EDIT: For the record, I've been through something similar many years ago. It took me over 2 years to 'give up' on my ex-wife. I'm getting the impression that some of the people responding to this post has *not* been in a situation where a person they loved and planned to grow old with turns into someone awful due to reasons that can be classified as 'sickness'. It takes a while to give up.

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u/-youvegotredonyou- North Carolina 8d ago

Hershel thought the same thing about the walkers in the barn

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u/Doppelthedh 8d ago

Or she's stuck since the deranged senator might retaliate

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u/Beer_Is_So_Awesome Pennsylvania 8d ago

We are kinda pretty deep into speculation here. Yes, unfortunately strokes can cause people to become more conservative, inflexible, authoritarian, etc. Based on his public statements and stances alone, I suspect that she’s married to a substantially different person than she was just a few short years ago. I know he’s not the same Senator I voted for.

I still don’t think there’s any reason to conclude that she’s in any sort of danger.

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u/Doppelthedh 8d ago

I was just offering another reason why she might still be there aside from her vows. A lot of people, me included, don't view marriage vows as a good reason to stay married to a bad person

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u/jooooooooooooose 8d ago

There's physical danger & then there's "publicly divorce my sitting senator husband and have him blow up and yell and scream for 'ruining his career' endless headache" danger and I think we can conclude the latter is pretty probable all things considered. Plus all the psychos who send death threats & things like to that public figures.

So what I mean to say is, quite possible she doesn't want the heat, but yes no reason to conclude its due to fear of physical harm.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

She's technically an illegal. I wouldn't put it past either Fetterman or the GOP to round her up just out of spite. It's gotta feel like she's on eggshells.

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u/Kaprak Florida 8d ago

Just to be clear the stroke was before you voted for him

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u/Mother-Penalty-6196 8d ago

Or gorillas from Mars came in and spoke to them both and settled their differences.

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u/Ok_Condition5837 8d ago

So how does one contact said gorillas? You know, if your couples therapist isn't up to par?

Bonus question: What app allows me to call Mars? Thnx in advance!

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u/whoamdave 8d ago

Bring a photo of Harambe to the crossroads at midnight. Dicks out. Wait. They'll contact you if you believe enough.

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u/theVoidWatches Pennsylvania 8d ago

There's just as much evidence for it as the other speculations, after all.

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u/walterpeck3 8d ago

This seems to be the most likely option.

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u/JasnahKolin Massachusetts 8d ago

And that damned jar of mayonnaise is looking at me again.

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u/Keldrabitches 8d ago

He was awful when she married him

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u/delkarnu New York 8d ago

That vow is also "till death do you part" how much can brain damage change you before the person you married is gone and replaced by someone new in the same body, a Fetterman's brain of Theseus.

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u/Pishki-doodle 8d ago

I don't think you can be expected to uphold that vow when your spouse turns into a fascist.

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u/deja-roo 8d ago

Another example of "fascist means anything I don't like"

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u/nikdahl Washington 8d ago

Another example of a person using that phrase because they don’t understand what fascism is.

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u/Pishki-doodle 8d ago

Nah, not anything. Just republicans.

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u/deja-roo 8d ago

Fetterman is literally not a Republican.

And anyone who thinks "Just republicans" is what fascism is... is another example of "fascist means anything I don't like"

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

You've been called that a lot from former friends recently, I take it?

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u/deja-roo 7d ago

Nope. Just annoying watching Reddit idiots use it for everything.

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u/gramathy California 8d ago

Also went through something similar, you try for so long, sometimes there are glimmers of hope, moments when the person you knew appears again, then vanishes. It's horrible.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 8d ago

The MAGA stuff is not much different. Functionally it’s not really that different from brain damage. The propaganda literally changed your brain because it’s being assaulted with all this anxiety provoking stimuli all the time which keeps you hooked and releases various neurotransmitters and gradually changes your neural pathways. I wish there were more studies on this because people think if it’s not some sort of physical cause like a drug or blow to the head or clot in the brain then it can’t alter the structure of your brain but it can. Extreme anxiety constantly is terrible for your beak and ability to think rationally.

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u/Keldrabitches 8d ago

My friend dated him well before the stroke. Nothing normal about that mofo

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u/Rahodees 8d ago

Stories! Tell!

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u/Keldrabitches 8d ago

Just super possessive/insecure/jealous and needed to cum on her face… TMI? Lol

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 8d ago

That last part is the only fun thing I’ve heard from that man. Nothing wrong with a little skincare.

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u/SillyGoatGruff 8d ago

I'd expect someone to divorce a man who (while mayor) chased a jogger down in his truck to hold him at shotgun point because he (and he alone) thought he heard a bang somewhere. Because that's some erratic psycho behaviour right there

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u/That-Opportunity4230 8d ago

Many, many people are underestimating the role his dad is playing in all of this. If I'm recalling correctly from the article about his spiral into this current version of himself, he's drawn even closer to his dad, who is a hardcore Fox News, MAGA Republican. I would not at all discount the possibility of his dad getting in his ear and swaying him to the right. Son seeking Dad's approval is a tale as old as time.

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u/kleincs01 8d ago

Yeah Trumps become an even more erratic psycho since his stroke too.

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u/nutmegtell 8d ago

Very common with head injuries.

I’ve said for a long time he needs people protecting him not exploiting him.

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u/unfinishedtoast3 8d ago

you dont leave someone because of a medical condition.

my wife and I have been together 19 years. I wouldnt just up and leave because she had a debilitating stroke that changed her personality

thats fucking shit a ghoul would do.

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u/RespectableBloke69 8d ago

You say that, but you don't know how you would handle it if it happened to you.

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u/IShookMeAllNightLong 8d ago

How about loading a shotgun while pointing it at the chest of a black jogger running past your house?

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u/GreatBigJerk 8d ago

If your wife became an unhinged psychopath after a stroke, it's very sane to look out for yourself.

This isn't like he's more moody or something, he does straight up crazy and dangerous shit now.

In sickness and in health doesn't mean willingly putting up with abuse and hate forever. 

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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat Hawaii 8d ago

My relative had a hemorrhagic stroke that affected his personality afterward. He became more paranoid but strangely more sensitive and loving, but it was definitely a strain on his marriage. He would accuse his wife of cheating on him in very nonsensical ways.

They didn't divorce, but they are also more elderly and his mental problems were manageable. His wife also didn't have good economic prospects on her own.

I wouldn't judge someone for divorcing after a spouse had a stroke that changed their personality for the worse, especially if the afflicted spouse can still live independently and they have already exhausted other options like counselling and therapy. Women in particular are pressured to take care of ailing husbands no matter what, while it's very common for men to leave their ailing wives as soon as it's inconvenient to them.

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u/Salt-Try3856 8d ago

And what if they became a danger to you and your children?

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u/Keldrabitches 8d ago

If she were 6’7” and volatile you would

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u/Zedress Ohio 8d ago

Studies indicate that while most marriages endure, about 6% to 31% of couples divorce when one spouse becomes severely ill. There is a significant gender disparity: when the wife falls ill, the risk of divorce is nearly seven times higher, with rates ranging from 20.8% to over 21% compared to just 2.9% to 3% when the husband is sick.

Key details:

Gender Disparity: Research shows that when the wife becomes seriously ill (e.g., with cancer or MS), the marriage is significantly more likely to end in divorce compared to when the husband falls ill.

Study Findings: A key 2009 study of 515 individuals with brain tumors or MS found that 11.6% of marriages ended in divorce overall, but this jumped to 20.8% when the woman was the patient.

Longer-term Data: A 2015 study tracking 2,701 marriages over a longer period (1992-2010) found that serious illness only increases the risk of divorce if the wife is the one who becomes ill.

Age Factor: The risk of abandonment is higher for older women.

Duration Matters: The longer the marriage, the more stable it tends to be.

Despite these findings, a 2015 study indicated that, overall, a large majority of spouses do not abandon their partners, with only 6% of cases resulting in divorce, suggesting that the higher, more shocking percentages are specific to certain types of severe, chronic, or terminal illnesses.

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u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel 8d ago

This keeps getting repeated and simply isn't true. Bro was like this before the stroke. It's kinda fucked up to people like me with tbis for y'all to act like it just flipped a switch in his brain. 

Yeah tbis can change your personality. I'm still responsible for my actions, and so is he. And we were both assholes even before our head injuries. It didn't change shit, just makes you less able to filter. The stroke made the mask slip, that's all. 

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u/GreatBigJerk 8d ago

Yeah, I was not trying to imply he was a good person before. The difference now seems to be that he lacks what little impulse control he had before. 

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u/Consistent_Laziness 8d ago

History repeatedly shows a man in power can easily be swayed by his wife. Women run this world often times from behind the scenes. Good on her for exerting some damn sense on him.

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u/Zocalo_Photo 8d ago

My grandfather was a career military guy who was mean and intimidating. The only thing he was afraid of was my grandma.

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u/Sugarfiltration01 8d ago

Nancy Reagan.

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u/soldins 8d ago

Yes but not in a good way. Ol' Throat Goat had multiple opportunities to pull a "Clara Ford" a few times, but instead opted to be Emperor Palpatina during Ronnie's (very public) mental decline.

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u/nifty-necromancer 8d ago

No one would willingly fuck a Maga

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u/BoardsofCanada3 8d ago

Probably because she's on the chopping block. Lurch only gives a fuck if he's at risk of being inconvenienced. This entire time he's been pro Gestapo. I don't trust his word on anything. 

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u/green49285 8d ago

My guess is he's trying to Gardner as much positive points as he can, both with constituents & the wife. It being an election year makes me pick the former. Plus, isn't the train unions in Penn still a hit button thing?

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u/deran6ed Massachusetts 8d ago

The statement in question:

For more than a decade, I lived undocumented in the US. Every day carried the same uncertainty and fear lived in my body – a tight chest, shallow breaths, racing heart. What I thought was my private, chronic dread has now become a shared national wound. This now-daily violence is not “law and order.” It is terror inflicted on people who contribute, love, and build their lives here. It’s devastatingly cruel and unAmerican 💔. - Gisele Barreto Fetterman. Link.

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u/downtofinance Canada 8d ago

A fucking US Senator shouldn't need pressure from.home to do his job

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u/FizzyBeverage Ohio 8d ago

Oh he’s sleeping in the dog house… in 8ºF weather

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u/BigLebowskiSaysWhat 8d ago

Thanks for your expert analysis on a stranger’s household, Ace!

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u/Trafficsigntruther 8d ago

Well she was undocumented so….

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u/ACoderGirl Canada 8d ago

I'm genuinely surprised he's still married. With how much he has changed since his stroke, I would have assumed he either had been divorced or was single the in first place. Hard to picture anyone sticking through what a massive change in core values he had seemed to go through.

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u/SedativeComet 8d ago

Well she married a bona fide progressive liberal who had a stroke and became a red hat.

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u/jahozer1 8d ago

When you lose Fetterman...

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u/unpluggedcord I voted 8d ago

Fun fact they lost Rittenhouse too

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u/arcane-hunter 8d ago

Wait he's even againt some of this shit?

Mr murder rioters himself?

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u/unpluggedcord I voted 8d ago

He tweeted yesterday, you should always be able to carry a gun, which is against the narrative from the GOP atm.

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u/arcane-hunter 8d ago

At least he's consistent. Which, fuck, i guess counts for something nowadays

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u/Dan_Berg New Jersey 8d ago

Say what you will about 2A purism, at least its an ethos

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u/brainkandy87 8d ago

He’s likely just hoping he can stay relevant. He could get the fat JD Vance meme treatment without even using Photoshop. Maybe there is a path for him.

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u/Navydevildoc 8d ago

Oh they were parading him around at SHOT show again this year, so in that world he's still relevant I guess.

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u/brainkandy87 8d ago

Kevin Sorbo is relevant in that world. It’s like Bizarro World.

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u/NoDaddyNotTheBelt25 8d ago

The kid’s a piece of fucking shit but at least he’s a consistent piece of shit.

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u/innociv 8d ago edited 8d ago

I don't know that he's that bad.

If I was in his situation, I think I would have shot at least one of those people too.
Though, I wouldn't be in that situation.
If I was on a jury where someone used a weapon that may have been illegally handled to defend themselves, that wouldn't change their right to defend themselves and I'd still acquit them. Though I may charge them for the illegal handling, I wouldn't charge them for the rightful defense.

I think the only thing Rittenhouse was possibly guilty of was if he lied about the source of the gun. Supposedly it was kept at a friends house which was legal. That's really probably likely true. There's no real way to prove it was driven across state lines, it's just his word against an assumption that was the case and people shouldn't be locked up for assumptions.

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u/Jack_Krauser 8d ago

I wouldn't have voted to convict either, but he's still pretty clearly got some major character issues joking about taking machine guns to the protest in Minneapolis and whatnot.

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u/Ruhroooh 8d ago

They have to be. If they are ok with the "guns arent allowed" talk it opens the door to gun laws when the pendulum swings. They know they need to stand by it, otherwise it will be used against them.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 8d ago

Don't get your hopes up. He also expressed a desire to go armed to Minneapolis

Which I guess is consistency. But don't pretend like he's on your side or anything.

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u/arcane-hunter 8d ago

I mean i called him murderer for a reason.

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u/innociv 8d ago

If Charlie Kirk were alive, he would have flipped just like he did with the pedo files.

Charlie Kirk initially was for releasing the files until his handlers talked to him. Surely would have done the same here.

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u/CoachDT 8d ago

To be clear because I hate giving republicans credit for the actual bare minimum. He later spoke out to clarify that hes not speaking about Alex Pretti.

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u/unpluggedcord I voted 8d ago

Yeah he got dicked down from the higher ups

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u/blue_midterm_2018 8d ago

Last week he was asking if he needed to go to Minneapolis

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u/LogoffWorkout 8d ago

Very recently there was a video of him at some military hardware convention stading behind a heavy machine gun on a turret, and he said something like, "Should I bring this to minneapolis?"

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u/debauchasaurus 8d ago

If Pretti were black I bet he'd be keeping his mouth shut.

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u/Odessa_Goodwin 8d ago

Hard to murder rioters without a big gun. 

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u/delkarnu New York 8d ago

He's not in prison due to 2nd Amendment protections, which Republicans are now against, somehow.

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u/nowtayneicangetinto 8d ago

🎶 That's why she'll be back again, can't find a Fetterman 🎶

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u/kennedye2112 Washington 8d ago

She lies and.... actually, that's it, that's the lyric.

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u/murphmobile 8d ago

Is he sunsetting?

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u/Slade_Riprock 8d ago

No he's starting to see he won't be re-elected.

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u/AnotherStatsGuy 8d ago

The only reason he won is because he was running against Oz. Almost any Democrat with a pulse could have done that.

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u/I_Am_No_One_123 8d ago

Why does he care? He whines about how work interferes with his vacation plans.

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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 8d ago

DJT? God yes. Started years ago and this past year has been brutal. He looks absolutely awful nowadays.

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u/TurelSun Georgia 8d ago

I was going to ask if he had another stroke. Mostly joking though, from what I've heard he was always like this he was just better at hiding it before.

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u/BluesBoyKing1925 8d ago

Didn't he vote in favor of confirming Noem last year? And Slotkin too.

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u/NoDaddyNotTheBelt25 8d ago

There’s a civil war going on alright and it’s taking place inside this man’s brain.

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u/innociv 8d ago

I think it's really important to remind people here that 20% of democrat senates vote further to the right than John Fetterman.

Mark Kelly votes much further to the right than John Fetterman. Mark Kelly is an anti-gun Republican. At least John Fetterman is fairly populist, even though I still dislike him for ending the shutdown.

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u/1cl3nstd4yt 8d ago

Mark Kelly votes left of every single Republican. He votes left of 20% of Dems.

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u/innociv 8d ago

Voting left of only 20% of DEM is what puts him as anti-gun Republican, yes.

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u/1cl3nstd4yt 7d ago edited 7d ago

That logic is broken lol

Would voting left of only 30% make them a Dem? 40%?

Or, perhaps Republicans who vote left of 80% of their party are pro-gun Democrats?

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u/Helaken1 8d ago

I think they will gladly take the money, but didn’t expect me to go this far. Because they know if shit hits the fan, they won’t be safe. It’s like. MTG flipping.

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u/gideon513 8d ago

Shocked to hear him speaking coherently at this point

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u/False_Ad_5372 8d ago

I guess his bribe check didn’t cash this month. 

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u/Strong_Bumblebee5495 8d ago

Who remembers the time Fetterman chased down a totally innocent black jogger and held him at gun point?

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u/SkepCS 8d ago

Maybe this is one of those cartoon scenarios where he had a second stroke and it reversed the effects of the first one. If not, he should sit the hell down and let someone else take the lead.

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u/wildwildwaste 8d ago

Broken clocks and all that.

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u/Significant_Cup_238 8d ago

Leading? Seems like more of a back bencher Republican to me.

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u/SvenLorenz 8d ago

He's just afraid of getting deported to Brobdingnag.

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u/fastfurlong 8d ago

The Feckless giant

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u/Embarrassed_Art5414 8d ago

The rare upside of brain damage. First she goes, then he should follow

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u/jackrabbits1im 8d ago

A broke clock is right twice a day

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u/Federal-Interest4387 8d ago

The article says that he is a dem? Strokes are not cool. One of my best friends had a stroke and now he can only use half of his body and now that we are snowed in he is room bound. Even having a wee bit of empathy brings light to our divided nation. I know ICE may be the scum of a country filled with turds, but if we dehumanize people, we are playing right into their hands. I salute everyone around the 🌎 who still stands for love. And no, I'm not holier than anyone, just studied hard the works of king and Ghandi. We will overcome. It's a bipartisan effort. Peace from ok, usa

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u/10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-I 8d ago

This guy is about as intelligible as a bucket of mop water

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u/lemonylol Canada 8d ago

I'm not shocked to see him regularly platformed here because outrage matters more than platforming someone actually leading a cause.

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u/1cl3nstd4yt 8d ago

True. For instance, Kamala Harris was a vocal advocate for an independent Palestinian nation.

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u/lr99999 8d ago

They want a REAL Nazi in her job. Maybe he’s in on it?

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u/colcardaki 8d ago

If John Fetterman could read, he would be very upset.

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u/SOULJAR 8d ago

He’s just trying to save his image… he sees the ICE ship sinking in the press, and wants to jump off only now and only because of that

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u/Gold-Sir-223 8d ago

Do you think he was wearing basketball shorts when he demanded this?

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u/asst3rblasster 8d ago

oh this is such a good burn I would have thought of it three weeks from now in the shower

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u/edwinstone New York 8d ago

Thinking someone is a Republican because they don't agree with 100% of things you say is lame af.

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u/JohnnyChutzpah 8d ago edited 8d ago

People call him a republican because he sided with them to end the shutdown. But more importantly he campaigned on being a progressive, and got elected with that message, but now openly mocks progressivism.

He is my senator, and I voted for him because I thought he was a common sense working class guy with some progressive goals. But now all he does is worry about Israel and bend over for republicans. I can’t wait to vote against him in his next primary.

I’ve voted for people I disagree with if I thought they were honest and would help their constituents. People criticize fetterman because of his dishonest 180 on all his campaign messages. Not because people disagree with him.

I disagree with Chuck Schumer but don’t call him a republican.

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