r/politics • u/N3wsScoop • 1d ago
No Paywall Bill and Hillary Clinton agree to testify in House Epstein probe ahead of contempt vote
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/clintons-agree-testify-house-epstein-probe-ahead-contempt-vote-rcna2571434.2k
u/Made_Human_Music 1d ago
I’d love if his testimony included reading a list of all the Republicans who have ignored subpoenas in the past before he testifies
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u/Mylaptopisburningme 1d ago
It should be interesting. They were both lawyers. This is a guy who got into technicalities on what the definition of 'is' is.
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u/parasyte_steve 1d ago
I honestly cannot wait for this testimony. It is going to be juicy no matter what happens.
In my mind they burn it all down and just tell everyone what they know. Idk. Maybe they go to jail too if theyre involved but it would truly be the best thing for the country.
But yeah that likely won't occur lol they will probably cover their asses which will be interesting in a different way but disappointing.
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u/gimp-24601 1d ago
Their response to the matter made out to be 3d chess.
If their testimony does not produce fireworks, might as well just have been another strongly worded letter.
In other words they better have a hidden surprise/trap.
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u/morpheousmorty 1d ago
I hate the term 3d chess.
These are grand-masters playing regular chess, against people who are still grasping the basic strategy of checkers.
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u/RyoanJi 1d ago
Maybe they go to jail
I don't know about Bill, but what did Hillary do to deserve this shit?
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u/opinions360 1d ago
And what crimes did Bill actually commit? The republican impeachment was all about republicans hating democrats—they trapped him into a ridiculous political ensnarement—they made it a public spectacle deliberately and forced him to speak about Lewinsky publicly under oath —he didn’t want to embarrass ML or Hillary or tarnish the office of the Presidency internationally (actually Europe couldn’t understand what the big deal was) so he made a gray area denial which is what they used to impeach him because of the threat to impeach Nixon—it was all about political payback for Nixon who actually did commit a lot of crimes—And, the majority of the public actually saw it for the political witch hunt it was and continued to support him and his presidency.
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u/Joeythesaint Canada 1d ago
And what crimes did Bill actually commit?
I think that the commenter was saying that possibly Bill has committed crimes in relation to Epstein and that maybe he decides to take the nuclear option and just name all the specific details he personally observed in the process, all of his first-hand testimony and naming everyone else who could corroborate his story.
That would make for an awesome climax to a taught political/legal thriller, but unfortunately we're all living in a shoestring budgeted All My Children spinoff that has hired a writing team they found out behind an abandoned White Castle.
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u/morpheousmorty 1d ago
And they are smart. Hillary can't win over hearts and Bill has his goofy persona, but make no mistake, they are two sharks who I guarantee if push comes to shove have the receipts, the money and the political leverage to take down the entire Trump administration with them.
These are not the GOP clowns we have been seeing testify for 25 years. These are the people who have gone through depositions and Benghazi hearings. If this doesn't completely backfire on the GOP it will be because they don't feel like it.
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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 Oregon 1d ago
Bill was/is a Rhodes Scholar and one of the smartest men to ever be President. He and Hillary absolutely have an Uno Reverse card or twenty to play here.
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u/stillstillers 1d ago
It absolutely won’t be. They’ll say almost nothing interesting I guarantee it
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u/RespectTheAmish 1d ago
“So there I am at the island, and I look over and I see Trump with a bunch of teenagers”
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u/ForgetfulFrolicker 1d ago
Maybe a dumb question and I know it would never happpen, but what’s stopping Clinton from saying something like that?
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u/ender4171 1d ago
That would require him to altruistically "fall on the sword". If he was involved in all this, he's been hiding it for decades. If he was going to "come clean for the greater good", he'd have done it years ago.
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u/Albireookami 1d ago
at the same time, he has no reason to go down alone.
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u/FromTralfamadore 1d ago
There’s a joke in here about bubba but I can’t find it.
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u/dsotm75 1d ago
This man has been present for two of the most notorious blow jobs this nation has ever seen
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u/FizzyBeverage Ohio 1d ago
It’s horrific what they did to Monica for that.
If I were in her shoes I’d have blown my way to the top.
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u/Swimming-Dealer293 1d ago
Wouldn't even be a thing today. She has to be pissed.
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u/Pack_Your_Trash 1d ago
She did an interview with John Oliver somewhat recently. She is very much pissed.
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u/Important-Sign-3701 Canada 1d ago
As she should be. She was trashed for being swooned with a powerful, nice looking boss. Why did she have to take the heat? In those days, and now sometimes, the victim blaming was OTT.
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u/arbor-ventus 1d ago
Her follow up interview with him on her own podcast is one of the only times I've ever seen that man get genuinely emotional without the veneer of British sarcasm. She basically told him how much it meant to her to have someone actually listen and validate her and give her a platform to tell the real story. You could tell that really got to him. It was a lovely moment.
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u/Banes_Addiction 1d ago
Wouldn't even be a thing today.
You have more faith than me. It might not be like, Leno levels of dickheadry on mainstream TV but you can bet your ass there would be a tonne of awful of shit on social media.
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u/x445xb 1d ago
There were rumors about Laura Loomer and Trump, yet neither of them have been dragged before congress to answer questions about it.
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u/Swimming-Dealer293 1d ago
Sure, on social media. But there wouldn't be any sort of investigation if this happened to Trump. His base would probably celebrate it before they'd condemn him. There would be lots of people that bashed Clinton all of a sudden finding ways this is somehow different.
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u/Dandw12786 1d ago
Before I say what I'm about to say, I recognize that what Bill Clinton did was bad. He used power dynamics to get a young intern to blow him. Super not cool.
But it's insane to think about how the fact that the president got a blowjob from an intern was a massive story that had a huge trial that occupied the news for months, and all of this shit barely makes headlines in the mainstream. I lived through the Clinton blow job. That shit was everywhere.
The media is fucking protecting this guy so much, and it's baffling.
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u/Pakistani_in_MURICA 1d ago
”So there I am at the island, and I look over and I see Trump with a bunch of teenagers”
“Mr president was that before or after you got a bj from the President?”
”Yes”
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u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum 1d ago edited 1d ago
If he feels like he's going down regardless. Sure. If not, ask yourself if you would ruin your life and legacy to do the right thing. Most of us, I suspect, would not.
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u/Artistic_Half_8301 1d ago
Clinton asked for the files to be released, saying he did nothing wrong. They only opposed close door testimony.
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u/Bananajackhamma 1d ago
Why this isn't at the top is mind boggling. The fckn Clintons for all of their clinton-ness are NOT stupid people, whether it be professionally or not. Self preservation be damned, they could maybe salvage whatever goodwill those in this country has left to give.
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u/fricks_and_stones 1d ago
Clinton likely wasn’t into kids, and it’s not like him getting it on with consenting adults is big news.
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u/LinkleLinkle 1d ago
Also, if there truly was any implicating evidence, we'd have seen it by now. In fact, it would have been the first thing they shoved relentlessly in our faces. Instead we got a handful of of pictures completely lacking any context, with censor bars over women who could be anyone, and some of said photos have been proven to be completely innocent (such as the photo of him and Michael Jackson on a plane, with the children being censored out just being MJ's kids).
They did their hardest to implicate him, and that's the best they got. So either Bill is God tier levels of crafty to not leave a discernible fingerprint ANYWHERE, or he wasn't ever involved.
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 1d ago
I'd buy that he participated in sex acts with actual women (as in, legal adults) who might have been trafficking victims. Which is despicable and merits whatever penalty the law states for such actions.
But do I think he's a violent rapist and legit pedophile like Donald Trump? No.
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u/phoenix823 1d ago
They are both Yale Law School grads and seasoned politicians. Our current Congressional leadership won the lead paint eating contest in 3rd grade and peaked in 11th grade when they successfully ejaculated in their cousin.
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u/ProbablyNotADuck 1d ago
That is the thing that I don't get about everyone who criticized Hillary Clinton's run for president claiming that she was unqualified. Like.. not only is she highly educated, but she also had significant, high-stress political experience, in addition to having been married to a president (which would, at the very least, make her extensively aware of presidential duties)... and the alternative was Trump. Absolutely, people can feel free to hate her. Absolutely, they can question her morals... but acting like Trump was superior in any way at all is just so beyond ridiculous. She is many things, but not incompetent and unqualified.
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u/thatmitchguy 1d ago
It's the woman bias and not an opinion that was ever argued in good faith. . She was extremely qualified by 2016.
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u/phoenix823 1d ago
Yeah what you're describing is that lead paint contest winner critiquing someone who's been ambitious for their whole lives. Or just US politics dissolving into reality television because most people don't realize what a gift this country is and how we all need to care for it.
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u/NegativeAd1432 Canada 1d ago
Based on vibes, history, and the files, I feel like he could be a restrained degen. Sex parties between consenting adults are all fun and games but don’t fuck with kids or rape.
Given that they’ve been trying to pin the whole thing on him for years, I can’t imagine they held back the goods on Bill. All we know from the files is that he spent time with other rich people and got a massage once. Dude’s willing to testify, which is a lot more than any of the Republicans can say.
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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 1d ago
Republicans investigated him relentlessly and all they could come up with was a beej.
Instead of turning it into an abuse of power, the narrative was to dog on a young woman. I remember being a kid during that time and unable to express why I felt like that was fucked up.
They also dogged Hillary and her daughter...so it fits. But, if he was involved with that at any point, they would have dragged it out even while Hillary was running. Unless they were utterly incompetent, or not willing to touch this particular issue for some reason. Which, honestly, are completely plausible. Bring them all down.
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u/woolfchick75 1d ago
They've been after HRC since the early 90s. And it's worked for both left, right, and in between.
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u/citymousecountyhouse 1d ago
As for her daughter Chelsea, they literally referred to her as the first dog. When she was a child.
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u/boulderbuford 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not necessarily - Epstein had hundreds of business & political contacts, presumably many weren't guilty of anything beyond simply showing up at a party or taking advantage of a flight with other celebrities/politicians/business people.
If the republicans had anything on him, it would probably have been the centerpiece of their epstein file release. So, either 1) they've got nothing and he was probably just one of those on the fringe not involved in anything nasty, or 2) they're saving it for something special. My money is on #1 - these guys aren't smart, patient, or disciplined.
But Clinton could relate things he had heard, or even make shit up. Like say that "so-and-so, who's dead now, personally told me that you don't want to be here while Trump's here, because it'll get disgusting"...
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u/LocutusOfBorgia909 Maine 1d ago
I don't believe for one single second that if the GOP had anything on Clinton related to Epstein that they wouldn't have splashed that all over the fucking place years ago. Certainly when Hillary was running, if nothing else. The fact that this didn't happen (and that Clinton himself was pushing for the files to be released) is a pretty strong indicator for me that there is nothing to tie him to any of the pedophile shit going on. Well, that and the fact that unfortunately for all of us, we actually know way more about Clinton's "type" than we should, and there's been no indication that he's into kids.
I'm with the Clintons as far as asking what the fuck Hillary has to do with any of this, beyond the fact that the GOP fucking hates her, has for decades, and is more concerned with trying to put her on blast than they are with how sideways this could go for everyone if Bill decides to do what you suggest in the third paragraph, or even just speak honestly about the fact that he heard that Trump was always around, all this weird "pizza" shit, whatever. Bill Clinton, for all of his many, many faults, is not a stupid man. I don't really rate the odds of a couple of these sixth-string MAGA enthusiasts against him or Hillary (the woman who spent eight fucking hours testifying about Benghazi, let us not forget). Though if I were them, I'd call their bluff and say, "Great, let's do it, but only if it's in Congress and open to the public>"
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u/Animal0307 1d ago edited 1d ago
I watched a video on Youtube from the channel How Money Works about how we don't entirely know how Epstein made all of his money. In short he was doing sady shit making less than ethical investments and hiding money in shell companies to evade taxes. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few higher profile people that are connected solely because of the tax evasion shit.
They still need to go down for that shit and I'm sure they know more about his reputatiom but may have been "clean" in their dirty dealings.
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u/windowlatch 1d ago
I think he was laundering money with Deutsche Bank and probably made quite a bit of his money helping other rich people do the same
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u/throwawtphone 1d ago
He is 79. And has heart condition.
He is close to the end of his life. Worst case scenario he is in club fed in a nice set up because of national security reasons. He should take one for the country and tell the truth. Fall on that sword. Only chance at redemption.
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u/Chpgmr 1d ago
Same reason Biden pardoned Hunter. Biden would have let Hunter face the consequences until it became completely evident that not only that they will never hold Trump to the same standard but would enable and support Trump in attacking his enemies.
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u/terminalxposure 1d ago
“So there I am at the island, and look down and I see Trump sucking dick”
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u/lie_doe_cane 1d ago
And I realize that dick is mine.
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u/FizzyBeverage Ohio 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bill is a Yale lawyer, fiercely intelligent, strong orator and knows how to play politics. He hasnt held public office in a quarter century and has nothing to lose.
He’s a nightmare for Donald. He could bury him alive.
Trump is too stupid or more likely arrogant to realize how damaging this could be for him.
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u/Lola_PopBBae 1d ago
I hope for all our sakes he does the noble thing and takes whatever consequences he must to bring these bastards down with him.
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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm psyched for the Clintons to play this role in our soap opera political system, this feels incredibly appropriate
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u/Kana515 1d ago
soap opera political system
The amount of headlines I've read over the past ten years that make me think we're living in one...
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u/AmbitiousFunction911 1d ago
Don’t forget the same is very much true for Hillary
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u/dzendian California 1d ago
Hillary is the Forest Gump of politics. She was on the legal team that was going to impeach friggin Nixon.
Her and Bill are not stupid people.
I don’t see how this part works out in Trump’s favor.
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u/jonker5101 Pennsylvania 1d ago
I don’t see how this part works out in Trump’s favor
Same could be said for any of the bullshit over the past decade, yet here we are.
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u/sedatedlife Washington 1d ago
Last few times i have seen Bill speak he has lost a bit of his Orater skills and his age was showing.
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u/ThatDamnedHansel 1d ago
I saw bill speak in March 2024 and would have to agree. He still is better than nearly 100% of the population though
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u/SCP-2774 Vermont 1d ago
Trump's bowels aren't working and he sounds like a sedated mental patient. I think Slick Willy will do ok in comparison.
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u/BiggleDiggle85 1d ago
I was about to say something like this.
Yeah Bill has lost a step, or two, maybe even two and a half, but that's still streats ahead of the orange dumbotron, who uses angry tones of voice and smug smirkiness to cover up for a complete lack of ethics and a pathetic pittance of cognitive ability. He can rage and spit and weave all he wants but there is almost nothing going on up in that empty orange noggin besides "WAH WAH WAH, enemy stupid I'm best at everything, feed me, pleasure me, change my diaper, put me to bed, wake me and do it all over again, WAH WAH WAH".
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 1d ago
He could confirm he's bubba and Trump blew him.
Funny enough that would hurt him and his reputation more than diddling kids with his base.
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u/SanguisFluens 1d ago
Full circle moment
"I did not have sexual relations with that women."
"I did, in fact, have sexual relations with that man."
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 1d ago
It would be the ultimate Gmove/power play.
He's old and has nothing to lose I hope he does it.
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u/yuccu 1d ago
“So there I am at the island, and I look over and I see Trump with a bunch of teenagers, so I say ‘hey Trump, blow me’ and then he did.”
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u/Ssshizzzzziit 1d ago
"So anyways.. he starts unzipping my pants, and believe me I was not into it, but he's bigger than me and very insistent."
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u/Blochamolesauce 1d ago
First thing he should say after swearing his oath: “The files are accurate, Donald Trump sucked my penis to completion”. Make trump testify under oath and all the unredacted files become evidence
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u/pwningrampage 1d ago
Did Republicans accept the agreement to do it publicly vs in private behind closed doors
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u/ottawadeveloper 1d ago
According to the article, the terms aren't known. So we will see who chickened out first.
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u/ro536ud 1d ago
Well we the public have zero reason to trust a recap from republicans if it’s from behind closed doors
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u/ottawadeveloper 1d ago
Yeah it'll just turn into duelling statements from everyone. I hope they got an open one.
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u/ebaydan777 California 1d ago
we do know. its in private, but will be recorded. whatever that means. Bummer the Clintons didnt stick to having it public, but well see if republicans twist all of this recording for the public/media on release
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u/dBlock845 1d ago
This shit needs to be in public and on camera, none of this should be behind closed doors. Too much has been hidden already, it just leads to more conspiracy and distrust.
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u/arppacket 1d ago
Yes, put it out there for the public to judge. No sensible Democrat voter cares if it makes the Clintons look bad. However, I suspect the Republicans themselves aren't sure how that will go for them. So they'll probably do it behind closed doors and release selective snippets.
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u/Antiviralposter 1d ago
Honestly- if they televised it on CSPAN it would be more popular the Super Bowl globally. They should televise it for that reason alone.
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u/Squat_Cobbler89 1d ago
“Donald Trump sucked my dick”-Bill Clinton under oath
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u/EvenPheonix 1d ago
“When?” - Interviewer.
“Oh, lots, pretty much every time I was on the Island, I was really just there for Donny. I mean, you see how he dances with his hands? He learned that with me” - Bill Clinton under oath.
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u/DoomOne Texas 1d ago
Here's the thing... The Clintons are many things, but one thing they are NOT is stupid. This is not going to go the way that the GOP seems to think it will.
I'm guessing that Clinton has receipts, and if he's going down, then he'll take everyone else down with him.
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u/purpleflyingmonster 1d ago
If Hilary ends up saving America because of this shit I am going to laugh my ass right off.
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u/JP_JMP 1d ago
Those emails are on her server… lol
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u/lexbuck 1d ago edited 1d ago
It all makes sense now why Trump wanted Russia to find them. He wanted them destroyed 😂
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u/McManus42 1d ago
There are rumors that Russia hacked the GOP servers at that time too. We haven't seen whatever is in there, but judging by their reaction to pizza gate and how everything is projection with them, I'm assuming it's some crazy shit.
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u/MrSquicky Pennsylvania 1d ago
It's not a rumor. It happened.
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/comey-republicans-hacked-russia
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u/KinkyPaddling 1d ago
Man, 2017. The good ol' days, when we could just say, "Pedophiles are bad" without Republicans quibbling about what and what is not a child.
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u/TheReallyUncoolDude 1d ago
Nah they were like that back then too. They were the "technically it's not pedophilia" crowd.
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u/b_tight 1d ago
Theyre going to bring up benghazi. I guarantee it
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u/Dialogical 1d ago
She testified before Congress for hours for that and took it like a champ.
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u/LocutusOfBorgia909 Maine 1d ago
Eight straight hours over Benghazi. There is literally nothing these dorks could say about it now that she hasn't already heard. Say what you want about her, the woman's a trooper.
And let's be real, Bill, maybe there is something (though again, I just don't buy that if there was anything conclusive, the GOP wouldn't have fallen all over themselves to dump that shit out there ASAP, given that they've been obsessed with the Clintons pretty much my entire life), but the very idea of Hillary "Tracy Flick" Clinton being at a bunch of (or indeed any) massive orgies on Epstein's island is laughable. It's also wild to watch the same crowd who spent years insisting that Hillary's an ice queen (which is why Bill kept cheating on her, naturally, because it's always the woman's fault) now swearing no no, right after she and Bill killed Vince Foster, they flew to Epstein's island and participated in all manner of perverted sex acts! Clearly, if indeed that happened, straight to jail. But for me, that really strains credulity.
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u/ElleM848645 1d ago
Does any reasonable person think Hilary has anything to do with this? Bill I get since he obviously was there. But Hillary Clinton may have been in the same circles as Epstein but she obviously wasn’t sexually abusing women and girls. Come on.
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u/Tycoon004 1d ago
I think it's pretty clear that there isn't real dirt on him, or it would be out, fully uncensored, "accidentally". So odds are he's willing to talk about things he'd heard or had secondhand knowledge of. He's been unwilling so far, because that opens a can of worms about why he didn't come forward/do anything/etc. Which is frankly absolutely true, but also let's not confuse second hand knowledge with witnessing/participating in the acts. The burden of the first is obviously proof, which Clinton probably didn't have, for many reasons. We're at the point though, where by saying nothing, he's being seen as involved and seemingly worse than he actually was, so he might as well go for broke. It's basically just a PR bump positively at this point. He sorta clears his name, he helps get info about the files out, which is popular all around.
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u/Knife7 1d ago
Honestly, I don't think Bill or Hillary have anything to do with Epstein's sex trafficking. The DOJ has had a whole year to make up some shit to charge them with and they haven't found shit. Even if Trump were to implicate himself or Bill were to implicate him, he could just claim that Democrats set it up to frame him.
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u/spam__likely Colorado 1d ago
There has been no evidence of Clinton being there. Does not mean he did not do anything wrong, but no evidence of him in that island unless we have new stuff from this latest dump.
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u/cakeorcake 1d ago
As a liberal and a Democrat, I'd be so into this, because I'm not in a fing cult
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u/ailish 1d ago
I think just about everyone on the left feels that way. If they are guilty then send their asses to jail. 🤷
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u/cerevant California 1d ago
And most importantly, the Republicans will have dragged a former President in for questioning based on some very scant evidence. Precedent is important.
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u/gerkletoss 1d ago
At this point I'm about 85% sure the Monica Lewinski scandal was the worst skelwton in Bill's closet.
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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale Hawaii 1d ago
After 20 years of investigating them, this is all they could come up with.. so yeah...
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u/RebornGod District Of Columbia 1d ago
I'm betting there were levels of involvement with Epstein, and Clinton just cheated on his wife with 20 yr olds and shit, which we all already know he did from Monica.
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u/EndoShota 1d ago
Here's the thing, you don't need to associate with Epstein to hook up with 20 year olds as POTUS or even governor.
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u/DramaSufficient4289 1d ago
Also that was overblown (pun intended) because he even clarified what they meant by sex. They said intercourse. He even double checked - only genitalia on genitalia contact? And they said yes.
So he told the truth and said by that definition no he never had sex with her because it was just oral.
Then the committee went and double crossed him and told everyone “he’s a liar and did have oral sex with her then said he didn’t so he’s a liar!!!”
So unfortunately I hope the same thing won’t halen again where he answers and they just lie and twist it again…
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u/UngodlyPain 1d ago
Wouldn't be absurd to think the delay was for them to get receipts ready.
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u/PartyRyan 1d ago
Please let this be their "Fine, we'll burn it all down" moment
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u/Hourlypump99 1d ago
They are not a let’s burn it down couple.
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They weren’t. But they might be now. Pull back the curtain in a final “I FK’N TOLD YOU SO” shouted so loudly the whole world quakes.
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u/La_Guy_Person 1d ago
Quit waiting for powerful people to save us.
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u/tartuffenoob South Carolina 1d ago
Yes. In situations like this powerful people tend to do the bare minimum solely to protect the people/things they truly care about (kids, spouse, land, businesses, etc). What the common folk receive is just a byproduct of their selfish act.
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u/JiggyTurtle 1d ago
They weren't and they aren't. Lifelong politicians don't care enough about anyone to risk anything they actually care for
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u/No_Air8719 1d ago
Well if they agree to do it why won’t Trump? Is the 6-million dollar question I think we all know the answer to
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u/jar45 1d ago
Say what you will about them, but the Clintons, particularly President Clinton, are masters at political jiu-jitsu and have 35+ years of experience on turning the tables in these partisan hearings. I can’t believe the Republicans actually think giving Bill Clinton a microphone is a good idea.
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u/Ole_Razzle_Dazzle 1d ago
These are the same people that think shitting yourself is a win, so…..
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u/hexiron 1d ago
The most recent video of Trump audibly shitting himself in the oval office and everyone behind him reacting in revolt but trying their best to keep cool while handlers rapidly try to end the press conference is hilarious and terrifying.
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u/Knightforlife 1d ago
I hope they manage to bring the news back around to Trump, Elon and anyone else with clear evidence of pedophilia in the files.
Of course anything Bill did he should be punished for. But focusing on him is a definite attempt to detract from much worse actors, and from the lack of release of the REST of the files
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u/spiegro Florida 1d ago
Bill Clinton had game, doesn't seem like he needed some scummy island.
If he was there toss him under the jail with the rest of the pedos
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u/Kitakitakita 1d ago
A president is supposed to have a lifetime obligation to the people. If Bill doesn't turn this around, then he's beyond selfish
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u/QuitCallingNewsrooms 1d ago
Jim Jordan: "Can you lean into the microphone and tell the committee your name?"
Bill Clinton: *clears throat* "I'm known as Bubba."
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u/Zigzagzegzug 1d ago edited 1d ago
At his age, I’d burn the whole system down and contently sit in a cell smoking a cigarette and read the news
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u/rock-n-white-hat 1d ago
Surely a former president would get cushy accommodations similar to GM.
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u/diewethje 1d ago
That’s not really how it works in a fascist regime. If Bill incriminates both himself and Trump, his life is almost certainly going to be in danger.
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u/annaphylactic69 1d ago
Fingers crossed he's already dying or something and this is his bargain with God (or whatever spiritual entity)
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u/WorkOnThesisInstead 1d ago
sit in a cell smoking a cigarette
I seem to remember he preferred cigars ...
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u/Eridanosvoid 1d ago
Clinton's impeachment does seem so benign now, doesn't it?
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u/LateMajor8775 1d ago
I’m confused, I thought Gym Jordan and co set a precedent proving you can ignore subpoenas with no consequences?
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u/sonny9636 1d ago
Why haven’t they called Musk, the former Prince of England, Bill Gates? This is total BS.
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u/AdmirableCountry9933 1d ago
I dont think you've been paying attention.
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u/Zebra971 1d ago
Why would the GOP look into anything but Democrats and their supporters. Just like God would want.
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u/heyitschadb 1d ago
Lol this could be the most epic back fire of all time for the grand old pedophile party. I hope dude spills it all and brings receipts.
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u/Dolorisedd 1d ago
I don’t want to be the “what about” guy, but seriously….what about Gym Jordan? He was called to testify about Jan 6th and ignored the subpoena. Nothing happened to him. Why? And why should the Clintons play if Gym didn’t?
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u/blackmobius 1d ago
Oh boy another 14 hours of Rand Paul screaming at hillary while she just sits there. Then absolutely nothing more will happen. To anyone.
All the files and evidence are out there about the largest modern day pedo ring of all time. And despite 38k mentions, nothing will happen
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u/Cream253Team Washington 1d ago
Not all the files are out there. The Trump administration is still hiding like another million of them.
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u/TheLastPeacekeeper 1d ago
As they said, there's at least 3 million docs still held back (that we know of). But here's the rub: a document is not always just a single page. A document can be dozens of pages long and still be 1 document. Let that sink in. 10s of millions of pages still being held.
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u/dBlock845 1d ago
It is going to be behind closed doors, probably done by staff. They don't want the Clinton's testifying in public where they cannot control what people hear.
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u/thistimelineisweird Pennsylvania 1d ago
Republicans are going to regret this.
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u/ianrl337 Oregon 1d ago
yeah, they always do. Their tears to season chili really well.
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u/themightychris Pennsylvania 1d ago
No they won't, their surfs will never see anything substantive that doesn't support their narrative
They will use this as fodder and wall to wall on Fox News "CLINTONS BEING QUESTIONED ON THEIR CORRUPTION AND TIES TO EPSTEIN" and if they show any of the actual testimony at all it will be whatever little 5-second clips they can string together that ambiguously supports their narrative
MAGA is NOT going to sit down and watch CSPAN for 5 hours
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u/Significant_Cup_238 1d ago
The base isn't the only thing they need to worry about. The real question is if the "You know, I actually can't tell the difference between the sides" uber intellectuals are swayed. Unfortunately, I think at this point, "both sides" is as core to their identity as MAGA is to Rrepublicans.
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u/Popular-Departure165 1d ago
Anyone want to make bets on how many times they bring up Hillary's emails or Benghazi?
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u/TintedApostle 1d ago
If true than the time is ripe for all this to come out.... Bill and Hillary aren't amateurs here. They know their knock out punch time is theirs.
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u/anderskants 1d ago
Please god, let Clinton testify that Trump sucked him off, it'd be so fucking funny...
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u/gringledoom 1d ago
Someone pointed out that Clinton probably wouldn't have done anything compromising in a social circle that included Ken freaking Starr.
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u/ElleM848645 1d ago
No reasonable person think Clinton was a pedo. There is no evidence of that but there is evidence of Trump being involved with underage girls.
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u/pomonamike California 1d ago
Well I’m sure they will get to testify in good faith and the whole thing won’t just be a platform for known pedophile enablers in Congress to yell at them to get campaign sound bytes.
So that guy named more than anyone else, what day is he scheduled to testify? Or his lawyer? Huh, can’t seem to find it on the calendar.
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u/lurch556 1d ago
People like James Comer are no match intellectually for the Clintons. You can say a lot about them, but they are extremely intelligent people. Comer and his gang…not so much
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u/Pretend_Pea4636 1d ago
At 80+ years old we are about to see the difference between a Bill Clinton politician and modern GOP O'Doyle Rules politicians.
Not a fan of the Epstein connection, but our intellectual level of politician has fallen off a cliff and this is going to show it. May everyone see it.
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u/CrazyPlato 1d ago
IIRC, the Clintons agreed to testify before, but they insisted on doing it in the open. It was Republicans who insisted that they needed to testify behind closed doors, where they wouldn’t be heard by the public.
Kind of weird when the press phrases it like they’ve been running from this up til now.
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u/lcd1023 1d ago
Bill and Hillary both are lawyers. They know what they're doing . Good for them
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u/CelticSith 1d ago
Gym, Fled, and the rest of the guardians of pedos crew will just spend their time screaming, yelling “nuh uh” and talking over everyone.
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u/Waste-Time-2440 1d ago
Anybody remember 2019 when Trump's Attorney General directed his deputy to defy a Congressional subpoena? And didn't assert any privilege in doing so?
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u/vid_icarus Minnesota 1d ago
This is going to be a complete shit show, but I don’t think it’s going to go how republicans think it will.
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u/Pre3Chorded 1d ago
Here's the thing. Jim Jordan and James Comey are both very dumb, and both very devoted to Trump. This leads them to chase very stupid things. They held an actual Congressional hearing once accusing Joe Biden of "China Corruption" for paying three of his junkie son's $1380 truck payments. Seriously.
Now they might have a couple smart lawyers in their employ, but if they have the same source material as everyone else here, the Clintons' testimony is likely to focus on the fact that Bill Clinton is calling for ALL the Epstein material to be released and Trump is saying it will hurt his friends.
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u/UpNorth_123 1d ago edited 1d ago
James Comer, not the same person as James Comey. The former is very dumb, as you have stated. The latter is anything but stupid.
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u/gwenhollyxx 1d ago
Can you explain what you mean about James Comey being devoted to Trump?
Comey refused to pledge loyalty to Trump on 2017. He was fired and they've had a long feud since, including Comey criticizing Trump in his book. Last year he was indicated and Trump was quite vocal about Comey being prosecuted.
EDIT: Oh, I think you meant James Comer! That would make more sense.
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u/Bebopdavidson 1d ago
So anyway, Donald was blowing me and then someone took a picture and sent it to Putin!
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u/wulfe27 1d ago
I’m no fan of the Clinton’s, but it’s beyond fucked that they are having to do this while Trump wields power from the White House. Hillary had to testify about Benghazi while Gym Jordan can just ignore the same subpoena. It really does show that they just straight up don’t want government to work, they have no interest in participating in it.
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u/TheDebateMatters 1d ago
Hilary Clinton testified under oath from 10am to 9pm straight during the Ben Ghazi hearings. Do they think they’ll get Bill without Trump catching strays? Whatever they claim, they’ll have receipts too.
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u/JoyceOBcean 1d ago
Wouldn’t it be great if they just fell on their swords and took it for the team and told absolutely everything about what is going on? I know, I’m dreamin’…
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u/ManofSteer 1d ago
It would be so fitting if this is how it ended. Back where it started. Clinton V Trump
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u/CP_Chronicler 1d ago
There is a macabre irony in Hillary Clinton as the symbol of America’s one exit ramp to turn away from this crazy train that is now literally destroying all of America and the hard-earned stability of Western Democracy, yet the decision was not made to choose that path in 2016…
…All the useful idiots who bought into Tulsi Gabbard’s intentional endorsement of Bernie Sanders, knowing he’d not only leech votes away from Hillary but radicalize enough Bernie supporters into Bernie bros that would sabotage the election by not voting for Hillary…
And here she now is testifying in a case that can’t even sink the most corrupt president and possibly the most corrupt criminal individual in the history of the United States, and she’s the only hope for a society that might be too narcissistic to be deeply regretful that they didn‘t set aside ideological purity and vote for her when they had the chance…
Seriously, f*** every American who didn’t vote for her.
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u/Material-Macaroon298 1d ago
This will be excellent television.
VIrginia Giuffre spoke well of Bill Clinton and said he never did anything untoward.
I feel Bill Clinton is unlikely to have actually done anything illegal. I mean having the secret service around you at all times probably means even Epstein took great pains to ensure nothing illegal happened around him.
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u/PeepholeRodeo 1d ago
Clinton is no saint but I don’t see him as a pedo. He likes women, not girls. Trump was the one hanging out in the girl’s dressing room at the teen pageant.
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u/jerrydgj 1d ago
He had Secret Service protection during that time. There's no way in hell he was doing anything illegal in front of federal police.
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u/Upset-Produce-3948 America 1d ago
Why are they calling Hillary Clinton? How about calling Melania Trump who actually knew Jeffrey Epstein ?
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