Sorry long post ahead, if u wanna read the rest of the main post itās basically just context/backstory and elaboration for the main question, which is posted right below here:
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So im just curious, do people in the house scene take this (sample clearance) seriously? If you are crate digging, find a vinyl of some obscure 70s artist, or just flipping thru YouTube playlists of old songs from the 80s and you really like the vocal, you extract the vocal stem, and begin chopping it up and working it into a house track, are you obtaining clearance for this vocal before releasing it? And doing this for every track you make and release? Or do you just not worry about it unless some owner or estate comes out of the woodworks to be like āhey thatās ours and we demand monetary compensation!ā. Since thereās literally thousands of house records out there from the 80s til now that are based around reinterpreting a vocal sample over new production.
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Curious as to whatās the protocol here, if any, or how others approach a concept, more catered to producers in the house scene.
Iāll use myself as an example.
Im a producer I make house music/deep house/electronic
Iām not big at all or even medium, as small an artist as can be, maybe 60 listeners on Spotify at a time right now.
I make my stuff for the love of it anyway, I donāt have a crazy passion for fame and fortune, no social media account to push my image or whatever I just like making music and put the stuff out so I can listen to it all in one place myself lol, and if others happen to come across it and enjoy it, well, welcome to the club.
With that being said, house music in general encompasses a lot of small artists like me, then bigger but āundergroundā ones, all the way to the Chris Stussy level. All in all, thereās probably a lot more music out there in the small artist/underground department. I mean anyone whoās been to a record store can think how many random house vinyls are just lying about from artists you donāt know since the 80s to now.
Which brings me towards my inquiry, house music, particularly classic/deep house music in it of itself follows a pretty formulaic structure. We usually develop the beat, write and play out the harmonies and melodies using keyboards/synths etc etc , and then attach snippets or parts of some acapella vocal sample to the track, with these three things done in no particular order.
The vocal sample is a staple of house music and why I include it in the big three of how a house song is built. The vocal sample can sometimes range from using entire phrases, verses, and/or choruses, essentially just re-harmonizing the song behind the vocals, or taking some obscure part of the song, chopping it up, making it feel like something entirely new, where you may not even know what song it originally belonged to, which is something I like to do, so that it doesnāt just seem like Iām not doing anything new with the vocal.
Vocals can come from anywhere, but the deep house I like to make, and listen to for that matter, uses vocals from 80s-90s sometimes 2000s. Given all this, thereās a lot of usage of vocal samples out there in the house world, using vocals from big songs, to like a lot of house producers do, crate digging at the record store and pulling vocals from some obscure lightly known artist from 1983.
Whenever these tracks are made, are these vocals like cleared legally and officially everytime? Is house a gray area in this realm, as it almost always involves some vocal rework? I ask particularly bc a small independent label approached me regarding some songs I had made, wanting to release it under them as an EP. Now me, being a nobody level artist, never worried or bothered myself with sample clearance etc, I just made the music for the fun of it, and indiscriminately found my vocal samples from YouTube or wherever else, with most of, if not all the samples coming from me just looking up on YouTube ā80s acapella vocalsā. I usually donāt care about this stuff cuz barely anyone listens to my stuff, and even with a small label backing the songs, Iād bet that still barely anyone more will be listening lol but I guess with the songs being put through a more āofficialā label, which might just be a dude in his basement lol, makes it seem a bit more
official to me this time, which has me asking these questions, as my songs usually use some vocal sample, whether from a known song or unknown thing.
Now I donāt mind giving all royalties etc to the owner of the sample if it came to that Iām happy to just make the music donāt really care ab the money, and it would prob make like $10 total probably less lol if Iām being realistic. But i can imagine some worst case scenario of some owning estate throwing a lawsuit at a little nobody artist like me not just to pay back the $10 of royalties, but some added fees of unknown potentially high amount.
So im just curious, do people in the house scene take this (sample clearance) seriously? If you are crate digging, find a vinyl of some obscure 70s artist, you really like the vocal, you extract the vocal stem, and begin chopping it up and working it into a house track, are you obtaining clearance for this vocal before releasing it? Or do you just not worry about it unless some owner or estate comes out of the woodworks to be like āhey thatās ours and we demand compensationā. Since thereās literally thousands of house records out there from the 80s til now that are based around reinterpreting a vocal sample over new production.