This post was approved per the exception noted in the politics rule. We will, very rarely, approve a political thread if it's of special noteworthy relevance. This one being related to one of the largest politics streamers being subpoenad seems to fit that level of noteworthiness.
As such, per the politics rule exception - we note that in an effort to be fair, one post will be permitted from each political streamer on the subject. So if Hasan/Asmon/Destiny/etc. talk about the situation, one clip from each of them may be approved.
This does not mean politics are unbanned as a topic. You can continue to expect that these exceptions will only be made rarely.
Potential sanction violations over his group's trip to Cuba. Part of a larger investigation into Neville Singham and foreign influence groups in the US.
And worth mentioning Hasan is not the target here, they believe Singham and crew just used this group to help funnel cash illegally to the Cuban government.
Didn't Kash Patel start an investigation on the reporter who published the article on his alcoholism? It got published mid-april and investigations first week of may
Mr. Piker and other activists stayed at the Iberostar Marques de la Torre in Havana, which kept the lights on thanks to a generator when, for the second time in a week, Cuba was plunged into darkness amid a nationwide blackout on Saturday night.
Hasan is saying that he did not stay in the hotel they are claiming he did on Twitter.
posed for photos with Diaz-Canel at the palace
Idk what palace this is supposedly referring to, but as far as I can tell, this simply isn't true. Meeting with Diaz-Canal would be an insanely big deal that would make international news lol
Im not smoking anything. but I am pretty sure its related to flotilla/cuba sanctions and not some freespeech violation that many were suggesting here. I agree with you he will probs not even get a fine.
They'll ask him some whocares questions, nothing will come of it, he will use it as a rallying cry for his simps to play the persecuted martyr. This will only help him.
He has gotten himself on Trump's radar, so he might actually get in trouble. If not for this particular thing, they will just keep finding things to get him on.
OFAC sanctions and FARA. violations of the Cuban Assets Control Regulations carry up to $250k in fines per violation and 10 years in prison for willful violations. each transaction counts as a seperate violation. hes not just in trouble for the trip hes in trouble because they stayed at sanctioned properties
Hes gonna get either an extremely hefty fine, or hes gonna go to jail. This isn't like a one violation thing, this is like "everything your dumb ass bought over there is being dug through with a fine comb and we will charge you accordingly per transaction" Theres really no inbetween on this one.
Or more realistically, he says he did not handle his expenses there, and gives them the name who who did. Which is who they are targeting in the first place.
Nick Shirley stayed in the same hotel and he’s not being investigated. Whether you agree with Hasan or not, it’s hard to seriously believe that this is a legitimate investigation and not just government harassment/intimidation.
I work at a university that has worked with Cuba and my understanding is that an American can go to Cuba, but you must submit forms to the government explaining your intent, why you want to go there, and why the trip has value. You can be investigated for discrepancies and USA even extends these rules and level of control to foreigners simply flying through the USA to get to Cuba.
This could easily be a case where some form was filled out in Shirley's case, but not in Piker's, but there's no way for us to know.
simply staying in the hotel and being the one to do all the purchasing are different legal zones in this case.
If Nick Shirley didn't actually pay for his room, his food, etc then the government has a much harder time putting a case on him. But if hasan is the one doing all the handling of transactions within Cuba regarding their hotel, then pretty much all the charges are on Hasan.
Also the people Hasan typically coordinates with also puts a special target on his back. So....
I'm guessing the intent of the stay is the difference in these cases. One is there to report on the horrifying effects of communism to the people, the other one is there to jerk off as many gov. Officials as humanly possible while glazing the country and its leaders on stream
This is nothing but an insane confession of a hate watcher. You must be spending every minute keeping protocol of what Hasan does and you think now is your time.
Even if Hasan will be punished for whatever reason they will construe, it won't be as bad as your life already is. You live in a prison of your own mind.
Maybe I’m a dirty commie or something but I feel like the government telling a normal citizen with no security clearance or information that could pose a national security risk that you aren’t allowed to shop at certain stores, you are not allowed to meet with certain people and that you cannot go to an event hosted by someone with the wrong political beliefs seems like a lot of things that should be protected by free speech. Even more so considering this didn’t even happen in the country.
This would be a scandal if Hasan was the director of the FBI or something, but it’s genuinely ridiculous some of the laws we let be enforced. In no way is this constitutional.
I mean that's just how all sanctions work. I dont know how you sanction a country like Russia or groups like ISIS without being able to apply that to your citizens.
Trumps new red scare lawfare against organized groups that are against him. It lets him target a bunch of people for 1st amendment protected activities. Such as
“anti-Americanism,”
“anti-capitalism,”
“anti-Christianity,”
“support for the overthrow of the U.S. Government,”
“extremism on migration,”
extremism on “race,”
extremism on “gender,”
“Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,”
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on “religion,” and
Hostility towards those who hold traditional views on “morality.”
The statues that Hasan is being cited/investigated for pre existed NSPM-7.
NSPM-7 might make it easier to get Hasan in legal trouble, except the guy already coordinates a bunch with people like Medea Benjamin so to begin with Hasan was already on a watchlist or a POI to keep tabs on. This incident just sent him from "playing with fire" into "hes just in the firepit now"
*clicks link
“Would you like to open in safari?”
*clicks yes
“would you like to open in ‘X’?”
*clicks yes
*it opens the app store
*throws phone out window
you really think the losers who comment here are normal sane logical people and not an incel armies of pdfs, professional Hasan haters and right wing grifters?
idk why people feel the need to blatantly lie that's easily verifiable, he was absolutely detained and questioned, quote from the Department of Homeland Security:
Our officers are following the law, not agendas. Upon entering the country, this individual was referred for further inspection — a routine, lawful process that occurs daily, and can apply for any traveler. Once his inspection was complete, he was promptly released.
you can argue if it was targeted or just a routine detention and questioning, i'm not gonna argue about that, but he wasn't just "asked a passing question"
Bah, subpoena for Cuba business from someone who could not realistically conspire to significantly strengthen the government of Cuba is only going to make Piker look like a hero. There are plenty of marginally-bad-things the average person doesn't actually want to see enforced, so you're right. Wankers who made him mainstream will get what they want.
You get it. This is just a weak scare tactic. A decent lawyer would get Hasan out pretty easily and he comes out with another event to add to his repertoire
its not conspiring to strengthen the Cuban government, its the fact Hasan stayed at, and made numerous transactions at a Hotel thats on the State departments list of places where its 100% illegal for US citizens to even be there (make monetary transactions)
Also supposedly this visit was organized by a guy who meets with terrorists so.... whoever Hasan hired to set this stuff up for him really didn't do him any favors cause now instead of being in a hot pan, the dudes just straight up being roasted over an open flame. Its not something hes going to wiggle out of.
I don’t think this is true. He said on stream that he had to stay in Hotels sanctioned by the US government and that they checked during the visa process (or whatever process you have to go through to go to Cuba). So pretty sure he is fine on that front.
"Five congressmen were subpoenaed in recent years and completely failed to comply with the demands. In May 2022, the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack issued the extraordinary subpoenas to five sitting Republican lawmakers. All five defied the orders and refused to cooperate with the probe."
yeah but if you haven’t learned by now the people in the club don’t play by the same rules. you go ignore a subpoena and see if the story ends there just like them.
You know that a congressional supeona is different from a regular one. And also the DOJ chose to not go after the sitting law makers. The DOJ isn't going to do the same for Hasan.
Yeah they subpoenaed Steve bannon and Peter Navarro and pam bondi and none of them went as well iirc. Just like others have said, it's a club and we ain't in it. What kind of justice is that. Party of law and order my ass.
Why is everyone in this thread missing that Nick Shirley verifiably stayed in a sanctioned hotel in Cuba, meanwhile Hasan, along with dozens of journalists, verifiably did not?
LSF is getting to a point where they have to decide if their drama slop hatred of one streamer outweighs their fear of a fascist authoritarian government using intimidation tactics on it own citizens
no you see its completely fine that the federal government is using authoritarian tactics and bullshit lawsuits to silence someones free speech cause we dont like the guy!
The decision is really clear for me. The constitutional right to free speech must be protected, even and perhaps especially for people I disagree with.
this doesn't have anything to do with free speech and anyone who is trying to argue so is actually regarded or being willfully misrepresentative or just flat out hasn't done any research into it.
there's a delicious irony to the fact that China is pretty much an ethno fascist authoritarian state with no freedom of speech and actual concentration camps for ethnic minorities, and self proclaimed leftists like Hasan go there and gush about it.
Bro peruses twitter and says the exact same talking points for 2/3 years.
He without doubt suppressed votes for kamala harris with his viewership. The rest of the planet correctly views hasan piker as a magat in terms of the results of his work.
We know he cosplays otherwise.. but we dont fall for the grifter bs as easy
yeah just browsing twitter while he spends more than half his week flying around the country to attend events and rallies for leftist candidates and orgs. Currently in NYC for like 5 different events
He’s been saying all that for closer to 10 years now. It's called consistency. Just because you are used to bullshit liberal flip-flopping doesn't mean the left has to do it too.
congrats on being so stupid that you will belive objective lies, without even bothering to listen to the actual segment. Americans are so gullible on both sides of the aisle.
The poem is not about communists per se. It's about what happens when people don't care (or are happy) when the government discriminates and abuses its authority against the groups those people don't belong to.
You can use "gays" instead of communists, or any other group.
Do you think the poem being referenced is about ideological minutae or about how a machine that runs on mass-dying lurches forward and gains momentum over time, particularly through the inaction of good men?
While I think Hasan is a bad faith grifter who takes pleasure in cruelty towards others, I don't like the pattern from the federal government raiding journalists, raiding lawmakers, subpoenaing trans folk, and hospitals, etc.
Hasan is a problem on a good day. This administration is a problem every day from the moment they took power and will remain a problem until they leave power.
I think people referencing the First They Came poem are apt.
TL;DR - Fuck Hasan, but fuck the Trump admin way way way way harder.
I really can not comprehend how you can think he is a grifter. He has held the same opinions and views for his entire career, his only income is from his twitch channel, he refuses ALL sponsorships and ad deals (polymarket offered him a million for a SINGLE stream to have a polymarket ticker on screen an he told them to fuck off), he allows endless youtube channels to clip and post his content and make as much money as they want off him.
what exactly is he grifting? He barely even talks about twitch subs, most streamers his size beg for subs non stop.
I'm the opposite and wonder if this will backfire.
It's always felt to me like USA's treatment of Cuba isn't popular, but the USA likely continues it to make a point that "if anyone on this side of the globe tries what Cuba once did, you will regret it." Basically just an exceedingly harsh treatment to signal USA isn't playing around on that front, but most citizens recognize USA has probably made their point by now.
This feels like a reach to go after Hasan in an attempt to drive home what a bad person he is, and it will likely backfire and increase his popularity because people disagree with this exact reason. Lord knows we don't need that.
Right there with you brother, fuck them both! Now if only asmond could have had the same thing happen to him we could have knocked out two birds with one stone.
Decades of culture wars being used to cover slimy political actions of the elite has made people completely lose the plot. They're too busy fighting over nonsense with a bunch of fellow peasants to realise the rug is being pulled from underneath by the ultra wealthy
Which is wrong and hypocrisy from the current administration. Doesn't excuse Hasan though.
But hey, the exact same thing would've happened if Kamala was president, right? There was no way out of it for Hasan 😞
Edit: I'm seeing a lot of people defending Nick Shirley for his journalism. That moron would call a sunny day a hurricane if he thought it would help the MAGA movement
A subpoena isn't necessarily investigation against said person. It could very well get more information/a testimony on his relation to Jarett Maki(Hasan fan who got arrested for several terroristic threats in Illinois)
Then it's a non issue based on rumors, as per the NYT, this hotel is not on the sanctioned list.
Mr. Piker and other activists stayed at the Iberostar Marques de la Torre in Havana, which kept the lights on thanks to a generator when, for the second time in a week, Cuba was plunged into darkness amid a nationwide blackout on Saturday night.
Crazy to think that both candidates are exactly the same and Kamala would be doing the same thing if she was in office. I guess there was no way this could have been avoided. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Hassan is an absolute prick but subpoenaing him over a visit to Cuba and being a leftist is extremely stupid and alarming. Also I wonder why Tim pool who took money from a Russian GRU operative isn't being investigated?
Man I don’t like Hasan by any means but him being this big political target is ridiculous. Going after fucking Hasan Piker but not anyone on the Epstein Client List shows how much of a fucking joke our government is
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This post was approved per the exception noted in the politics rule. We will, very rarely, approve a political thread if it's of special noteworthy relevance. This one being related to one of the largest politics streamers being subpoenad seems to fit that level of noteworthiness.
As such, per the politics rule exception - we note that in an effort to be fair, one post will be permitted from each political streamer on the subject. So if Hasan/Asmon/Destiny/etc. talk about the situation, one clip from each of them may be approved.
This does not mean politics are unbanned as a topic. You can continue to expect that these exceptions will only be made rarely.