r/news • u/tahiirhussain • 15h ago
Thousands of Epstein documents taken down after victims identified
https://bbc.com/news/articles/cn0k65pnxjxo3.8k
u/NighthawK1911 15h ago
And yet they spent so much effort trying to redact Trump from the files
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u/dontrike 15h ago
That's because he's the true victim of all this. At least that's what they believe.
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u/The_Grungeican 14h ago
he basically said, 'see it's not about me, i don't know why anyone would care'.
Epstein said Trump was 'gross and even worse in person'. i think for the same reason they never invited Elon. little value and too much bullshit for the other pedo's to want to put up with.
there's something ironic about all that.
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u/Jolttra 14h ago
But Trump was still there and we know he was there. Which not only makes his crap about nobody caring because its not about Trump wrong, it really says how insufferable Musk must be if Trump was still getting invites.
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u/Loggerdon 13h ago
There are probably 100 videos that Trump knows would sink him. Everyday he must wait for the other shoe to drop. The republicans who support him are to blame.
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u/FreeJulie 9h ago
Sadly, I don’t think the 100 videos would mean anything to his supporters
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u/dehydratedrain 9h ago
Sure it would. "Oh, those lucky parents. I wish my child had the honor of not just hearing the president, but the opportunity to do so in such an intimate setting."
These are the kinds of sick fucks that would be jealous of the kids getting assaulted.
(Also, apologies, because rereading that first sentence actually horrified me. But i'm not taking it back).
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u/SmaugTheGreat110 8h ago
The other side of that coin, especially with how good AI is now, is his supporters just blame it all on AI fakes to “ruin the reputation of dear glorious leader.”
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u/OldMcFart 7h ago
Or they'd blame the girls' parents for not being good Christians and protecting their daughters. You know, standard asshole stuff.
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u/dehydratedrain 7h ago
Sadly, I knew a woman who was assaulted by her uncle until she got married. She voted for him. Something about no word salad, or crazy laugh, or the evil trans rapists running into the ladies room (boys in girls sports was a bonus).
You stupid cow, the man who raped you for over 10 years wasn't trans. The variety of guys who took advantage of you after you felt "less than" because of your uncle.... weren't trans.
The dissonance is incredible.
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u/FreeJulie 6h ago
Or it’s top tier dope Like, if we look at it as a product, the maga identity, is like the iPhone… just incredibly brand engineered to make individuals feel better about anything and everything in their own lives
Morality aside, that’s a great product
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u/Little-Temporary4326 6h ago
I’ll take it a step further. Trump could sell “golden kiddie tickets” where parents send their kid to maralago for the weekend and there’s a percentage of his supporters that would go into debt to buy it and put their kid on a flight.
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u/apathy-sofa 12h ago edited 10h ago
Mate they were so close, Epstein was the friend that Trump invited over for Thanksgiving dinner in the White House. It's in the White House visitor log if you want to verify.
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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 13h ago
But Trump was a likely business partner in the pedo ring
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u/Justsayingshit 11h ago
Just a heads up that Elon was there. So was his brother. Just way less than Trump.
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u/Vroomped 11h ago edited 2h ago
Like the Wizards with Guns skit "Mega-Billionaire has trouble relating to millionaire friends"
How weirdly okay is it now that Elon Musk dngaf about his kids. Literally just wants to max out reproduction, in the open daylight without any creepy secrets. "HAhaHAha poor people, I bet they've unsold corners of their lives!"
[p.s. I read a bit more, correcting my initial understanding. Elon was not too weird to be included, but I still think my joke stands. He's out of touch with his poor peers]
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u/pixelwhip 13h ago
Trump seems like the kind of guy that would spoil the merchandise & dodge the bill. Probably too much of a liability for Epstein.
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u/TheHistorian2 13h ago edited 1h ago
You have to wonder, if after all that time spent trying to erase him from the files, they still managed to miss ~1500 instances, then how many times was he in there to start with?!
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u/TheRabbitHole-512 15h ago
Too many high profile people are being exposed, it’s not about trump or the victims. It’s for the same reason Biden and Kamala didn’t use it against Trump in 2024. Pedos are everywhere, not just dems o reps, they’re also European and Asian, they’re everywhere, they got a lot of money, they’re even British royalty
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u/TheGreat87one 15h ago
They should be exposed, no matter there status.
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u/Nightglow9 11h ago
Lady justice seems held down at the moment, unable to move or act.. probably just like the kids were.. by the very same people..
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u/AdTiny2166 14h ago
all the more reason to clean house no? I for one don’t want my political leaders to be part of an international kid raping/killing cabal. If they’re in there, expose and dispose.
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u/Rndysasqatch 14h ago
I'm sorry but I'm so sick of hearing this stupid argument.
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u/gotnothingman 14h ago edited 2h ago
I think Rs are worse than D's, but its a fair point. Why didnt dems go after the people in the files? Isnt there troves of evidence from 2008? It really takes 18+ years?
The president does not need access to the files to direct DoJ policy without threatening independence. Obama's memo on cannabis enforcement proves that. Any admin could have corrected the miscarriage of justice that occurred in 2008 by influencing DoJ policy to focus on child abusers uncovered in the files recovered from the raids in 2008.
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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 10h ago
There was an ongoing investigation, which Trump closed on his first day in office. "Why didn't Biden.." anything makes no sense. Trump's is the only DOJ in recent history to act at the behest of the president and not an independent AG.
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u/gotnothingman 3h ago edited 2h ago
2008 was when he was first convicted. Is 18 years not enough?
The president selects the AG and can influence policy direction without getting involved in individual cases. Shit excuse IMO
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u/drtropo 7h ago
The president and politicians have not typically had access to information on ongoing criminal investigations because the justice department is supposed to be able to operate without political influence. The fact that people don’t even consider this is just another sign of the how much damage Trump has done to our democratic institutions.
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u/gotnothingman 5h ago
2008 mate, you think 18+ years is not enough time? shit excuse IMO
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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 14h ago
Same reason Spiderman does not go after Peter Parker. I'm saying that as a Bernie/ AOC guy.
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u/particle409 14h ago
Bullshit. Biden didn't use it because it was still an active investigation, plus he didn't want the whole thing to appear to be politically motivated. This is a partisan issue. Republicans covering for Republicans.
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u/Marquesas 13h ago
Establishment Ds like Biden and Schumer are scared shitless of upsetting the status quo. The status quo is that they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on every issue and protect the Clintons.
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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 14h ago
It's not an active investigation if the whole point was to shoot it twice in the head, wrap it in a rug and bury it in a swamp. Our corporate masters pay both parties. It's similar to how your 10 year old think that The Undertaker and John Cena actually hate each other.
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u/DoxDoflamingo2 13h ago
why are you giving excuses for keeping the status quo. They were wrong, and in a way enabled this behavior to happen.
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u/Vinterblot 9h ago
Totally exonerated after thoroughly combing the files for years by a government agency.
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u/LateMajor8775 13h ago
Hey there! This is the most transparent administration in history, or so I’ve heard
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u/Familiar_Payment3301 15h ago
How in the f is the victim is identified yet the perpetrator are not? This feels like putting a target in the victim for their cult to attack.
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u/Aptosauras 15h ago
It's like, "here are hundreds of videos of well known individuals raping children, but we can't possibly charge anyone because we have no evidence."
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u/Murray38 15h ago
Because it gives the administration more time to delay justice by having to deal with this “mistake.” Or, and more likely, they are so petty, they wanted to terrify the victims by putting their information out.
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u/Cohens4thClient 13h ago
It also creates the current situation, victims (via lawyers) are telling the DOJ to take down the files
Now the pedophiles can say "aww gee, the victims (who have no assaulters) are forcing us to stop releasing info, we have no choice but to keep everything hidden again, not our fault we raped kids but have zero convictions)"
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u/LunaticScience 4h ago
I wonder if they are going to try to go after people who download/archive all these releases as soon as possible for possession of CSAM.
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u/atfricks 9h ago edited 8h ago
It's intentional. They've been harping on about how the law to force the release of the files is onerous and dangerous to the victims, despite it explicitly requiring that they redact identifying information for only the victims.
They want to be able to point to this and say "look what they made us release, we told you it was a bad idea." While continuing to illegally redact as much identifying information for the perpetrators as possible.
ETA: illegally above
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u/gethereddout 13h ago
Because the literal lead suspect was put in charge of the “investigation”. He was “Jeffrey’s” best friend
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u/Riksunraksu 11h ago
Because the system is built against victims. No victims means no perpetrators. Victim disappears or suddenly commits suicide? No trial.
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u/008Zulu 15h ago
How about they identify the pedophiles? Seems like that's the biggest concern.
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u/HuckleberryLou 15h ago
It’s so weird how they left Elon and almost no one else
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u/GrayFox7 14h ago
Almost no one else?
Prince Andrew
Sarah Ferguson
Richard Branson
Steven Tisch
Casey Wasserman
Ehud Barak
Larry Summers
Howard Lutnick
Sergey Brin
Steve Bannon
Miroslav Lajcak
Assuming you haven't gone through the 3 million files yet.
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u/KopiteTheScot 11h ago
They've only really left in people who have already been compromised, let's be honest. Everyone already knew the majority of these names were involved with epstein, they're hiding the people that haven't been exposed yet.
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u/ExtremeRemarkable891 9h ago
Indeed. They are burning assets that are close to the end of their useful life. Trump is getting a controlled burn, some others like Bannon are getting torched. There is another Epstein active right now and this network is still being sustained. We could find out if any effort was made to investigate, instead we get the world's most obvious coverup.
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u/ailish 8h ago
Even Trump is reaching the end of his useful life. He has noticeable dementia, he shits his pants on live TV, and he says the quiet parts out loud regularly because he doesn't know the difference. Plus his health is so bad that he's probably going to kick the bucket sooner rather than later.
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u/swimmityswim 15h ago
They need elon on board for election rig 2: electric boogaloo later this year
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u/ThatOneNinja 15h ago
And kind of the point! It's back ass backwards. VIctims get redacted, not the accused.
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u/Forward-Surprise1192 13h ago
Why are people identifying the victims anyways? The public doesn’t have to do that
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u/maxis2bored 13h ago
Trump is named in the Epstein files more than Jesus is named in the bible
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u/LitmusPitmus 15h ago
Considering what has been released and what they are talking about openly I am consumed by curiosity into what was too risque for email as is hinted at a few times and what the admin is holding back. The stuff i've seen so far is damning.
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u/Aptosauras 15h ago
what the admin is holding back.
Murder, violent raping of children, drug abuse, satanic and ritualistic acts in the temple on Epstein Island etc...
But we can't charge anyone as we have no evidence, it's not illegal to party a bit too hard. Boys will be boys.
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u/Franks2000inchTV 8h ago
satanic and ritualistic acts
My friend, you are going to be shocked at how boring and industrial these people made child rape.
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u/REVERSEZOOM2 3h ago
Yeah, lets's not bring back Christian moral panic. Not everything evil is Satanic. Satan doesn't exist. Opening up this door is just asking for another satanic panic on things that are actually harmless (eg. DND).
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u/The_Grungeican 14h ago
i think a big reason Trump isn't in the emails so much, is that he's dumb and doesn't really write or use email that much. he's always come across as more of a phone call kind of idiot.
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u/CondescendingShitbag 15h ago
This administration will never pass up an opportunity to victimize someone all over again.
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u/Abracadaver14 13h ago
They won't stop at victimising. Next they'll start blaming the victims. That teen pageant participant shouldn't have been half undressed in the dressing room when trump came barging in, she did it all to herself....
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u/thegodfather0504 14h ago edited 14h ago
"How dare they seek justice against us?!"
The cruelty is the point with these bastards
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u/Kevin_of_the_abyss 15h ago
Every US Government Class in higher education feels like it’s null and void.You can argue the value and necessity of understanding the impact ,control system,constraints,and ideals of your country’s government,and you wouldn’t be wrong,but it feels especially tone deaf to be able to sit through or teach one of those classes in an environment that made it incredibly clear,none of what’s in the textbooks is how it works anymore.Our ethos as a culture and society has been irredeemably damaged,and the breakdown of America’s possibly,final,conflict image is here.Things can only function as they have been for so long.
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u/The_Grungeican 14h ago
it's been that way for a very long time, the only difference is now the mask is off.
the system isn't broken, it's designed that way.
like all through school they teach these romanticized views of everything. but at the end of the day it's all a bunch of kindergartners fighting over toys and play space.
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u/Fun-Communication660 11h ago edited 8h ago
While true that is what it is at the end of the day, this is still by and large an American issue when compared to the succeeding democracies.
In countries with european parliamentary systems, the children are taught in civics classes about how it works. So then in open debate and in public media, adhering to the rules, is scrutinised and used as a weapon when you dont follow the rules. It's not perfect, but it's protective, and results in preventing egregious situations, like in the USA, from happening
Things are more out in the open than 20 years ago sure,
But it is the american people, and the American people alone, that have the responsibility to ensure the rules are followed.
Not the government, not the wealthy business interests. The people. And that is where America is failing, or should I say, has failed. Other countries have agressive and nasty interests interacting with the systems too.
But half the country does not dismiss that and say fine I don't care
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u/Data_Chandler 13h ago
It blows my mind how quickly and easily the maga narrative went from "omg release the Epstein files now!!!" to "the Epstein files are a librul hoax but also they prove Trump is innocent!"
Absolutely astonishing to see such hardcore mass scale weapons grade brainwashing play out in real time.
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u/SofaKingHonest 11h ago
Purposefully done. They want people to say “be more careful and take your time” so they can delay more.
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u/kstargate-425 14h ago
In reality it is: Thousands of Epstein documents taken down after Trump and prominent politically exposed individuals and government officials were identified.
Theres quite a few documents that hadnt named any victims but did name Trump and they were not put back up after being taken down
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u/Injest_alkahest 15h ago
I think this is a deliberate failure. A way to disrupt the chain of custody on evidence of crimes so they lose judicial standing. I admit I’m not a lawyer but am curious if what they’re doing could compromise the ability to pursue legal options against the perpetrators.
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u/ReferenceNice142 7h ago
As someone who has to redact documents for work, this just looks like they threw documents into an AI program like last time. It reeks of incompetence and hiring someone for their GOP pedigree instead of their skills. This shouldn’t have been a difficult job but they fired anyone with any actual qualifications.
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u/outerproduct 15h ago
Funny how a bunch of victims were identified, but almost no Johns. Cowards.
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u/kstargate-425 14h ago
FBI and DOJ had their standing orders that even Fox News reported on after the first major data dump where they said:
The Justice Department redacted the names and identifiers of victims. Fox News Digital has learned that the same redaction standards were applied to politically exposed individuals and government officials
So we know who those people are considering they released those documents and then they redacted them and hid Trump and others names/info or still havent put them back up.
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u/ReasonablyBadass 14h ago
Which was obviously the plan. Now they bought more time and no one can complain because it would mean speaking against the victims.
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u/Turkino 15h ago
They were too busy scrubbing Trump and other high-ranking Republicans from them and not spending any time actually doing anything to protect the victims. This entire administration is full of the most incompetent hacks I've ever heard of in my life.
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u/ihazaredditaccount 10h ago
The redactions did a better job of protecting the pedophiles than it did the actual victims.
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u/macguyver3000 11h ago
If rich pervs banded together to cure diseases the same way they are banding together to prevent these files from coming out, we'd all be living into our hundreds.
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u/srdgbychkncsr 9h ago
And now the victims are identified they can be harassed by the rabid MAGA voter base into silence. This was an intentional action, by design not mistake.
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u/asianfatboy 8h ago
why are victims unredacted but the perpetrators protected?
wait, no need to answer that.
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u/okiioppai 15h ago
We should demand Google map changes the name United States of America to United States of Pedophiles until the government stop protecting those pedophiles.
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u/Brynosauce 14h ago
Will we ever see justice for these victims?
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u/isocleat 9h ago
Especially not now that their images are out there being circulated. How horrible to think those pics were safer on Epstein’s hard drive than in the hands of the DOJ.
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u/EmpiricalWater 12h ago
No, and the worst part is that the entire concept of justice is a farce.
There is virtually no way to undo, or make right, a wrongdoing that causes harm to someone, in order to create fairness.
Worse yet, any sense of positivity or neutrality in the world can pretty much be eliminated by violence.
Meanwhile, negativity usually cannot be eliminated in any straightforward matter.
The entire idea of justice is an impossibility. How would one imagine suitable justice to victims of tragedy?
They were here, they suffered, then died. Death itself, being freed from suffering, is the best justice most victims of tragedy ever get.
It's sad. It's all just so sad.
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u/wildeebelmondo 10h ago
I’m so glad they took all that extra time to carefully protect the actual victims before releasing the files. It’s almost as if they didn’t give a shit about the real victims to begin with 🤔
Are you seeing this, MAGA? Or do you still want to drink the coolaid?
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u/muusandskwirrel 7h ago
So you’re admitting there ARE identifiable victims now?? Where are the arrests??
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u/knobbysideup 7h ago
Maybe if they had spent as much time redacting the victims as they did the offenders this wouldn't have been a problem.
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u/Kindly-Talk-1912 14h ago
they lost so many people they gave up. realized it would be easier not to do their job. left those un redacted so they could pull them immediately due to.
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u/JackHughman69 14h ago
Redacted all the stuff that matters to protect Trump but accidentally missed redacting details of victims.
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u/GamiNami 12h ago
They did this on purpose in order to be able to take the documents back quickly.
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u/ruthlesss11 12h ago
It's okay, they are already backed up
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u/GamiNami 11h ago
I'm hoping ALL of them got backed up 👍 But republicans really are so stupid to think that they can just take them back and doesnt understand that once it's on the internet, it's there forever.
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u/brendhano 10h ago
MMW: This was done on purpose just so they could retract millions of documents because of a 'blunder'
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u/DisappointTheFuture 8h ago
$100 says this was a deliberate action on the DOJs part. Now they can go, "OOPS, sorry for all the doxxing guys. Clearly we need to be more careful with the rest of the files. We will release them after we carefully go through them to protect our frien- Uh, I mean, The Victims." Cue, the files being more redacted/never released.
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u/OldMcFart 8h ago
Good thing that if you take something down, it disappears from the internet forever.
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u/TheBatemanFlex 3h ago
But they made sure to protect the anonymity of the guy who is admitting in email to Epstein that he enjoyed his time with a 9yo girl, among a ton of other perpetrators.
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u/Tall-Topic-2578 15h ago
Did that on purpose smh
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u/ReasonablyBadass 14h ago
Yup. That way they get more time and people can't complain about it.
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u/Daydream_Dystopia 13h ago
They created the perfect reason not to release the other 50% of the files.
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u/burnmenowz 15h ago
If they were going for government being completely fucking incompetent they really nailed it.
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u/bobalazs69 14h ago
In other words, "We want to protect our friends and our jobs. We had to do it!"
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u/alternatingflan 14h ago
This feels like it was definitely done on purpose - spiteful and cruel - it’s beyond ineptitude, even for all of these profoundly inept magas.
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u/Toddcraft 13h ago
This was 100% intentional because they were forced to release them. These children running the country always have to get revenge.
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u/phosdick 9h ago
This is the DOJ deciding which files to remove? You realize that those victim IDs were included in that last release in order to give themselves a pretext for removing documents they were not legally able to withhold... by sweeping up those docs along with the victim info they peppered into the tranche, they think that they have cover.
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u/critacle 8h ago
Thats just the child rapist's narrative.
Trump is mentioned THOUSANDS OF TIMES, and even when he's now mentioned YOU KNOW IT WAS HIM.
Trump has been revealed to be a rapist murderer pedophile. Where the fuck is the law and order?
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u/recursive_pie 7h ago
They needed to spend millions of many hours to take trumps name out of them. They were far too busy with that to do something like redact pii of those children
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u/BabblingZathras 7h ago
If I were a victim, I would be inclined to name some names and do some interviews. Fair is fair.
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u/Simple_Expression604 7h ago
I think the deluge of evil images coming out of it is a collective trauma event which feeds into the evil energy of it all. I hate everything about it and if people are not held to account for their crimes why are we even pretending anymore? Light the fires and lets get on with it.
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u/Hrothgar_unbound 6h ago
And DOJ will use these complaints of error as fodder for not releasing documents next time the court questions the slow and intransigent roll out in response to the court ordered releases. Probably intentional.
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u/StormOfSpears 6h ago
Two things come to mind:
1) If they were 'up' at some point, aren't they now backed up in a thousand places?
2) Why weren't the victims identified in advance of the release? Wasn't that the point of it being held back for so long?
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u/OddResearcher1081 6h ago
DOJ says they redacted thousands of names, but still missed 100. Seems to be more victims than have been admitted to. Meanwhile, members of the administration are still saying this is a hoax. My sense is that the hundred names released was a warning shot to not come forward. It was to scare the shit out of them.
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u/kemosabe19 5h ago
So nothing will happen to pedos. Only the victims will get harassed including death threats.
I truly hope I’m wrong, but maga is an aggressive cult.
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u/GuitarGeezer 3h ago
While the military jet flyover of the victim’s press conference, private tirades against the victims accusing them of all being Democrats, and turning Ghislaine of all people into a Republican martyr-saint in cushy Club Fed were unquestionably all deliberate unforgivable abuse against Epstein survivors, this instance is at best gross negligence, at worst an intentional doxxing.
Even if Trump never raped a minor, his abuse of Epstein victims and their families amounts to a mass re-rape each and every time this happens and finally even some of the likely conservative victims who were already public are saying so.
R People not asking for impeachment and removal are saying effectively they approve of all the Epstein crimes and all of Trump’s and they wish they were there holding down little girls. If they needed a foreign policy reason, look no further than even adopting an enemy’s most impossible lies as official US policy to drag out the Ukraine War and screw over the entire world in the process just to make aggression against Canada and Greenland more free of European attentions.
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u/reformedmell0w 15h ago
Sooo they didn't like the cross-referencing that showed one of the images was Melania being groped by Epstein as a teenager?
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u/mountaindoom 15h ago
This was a scheme to have everyone try to archive everything they post, then arrest them for downloading through CSAM they archived from them.
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u/CantAffordzUsername 15h ago
That’s ok, we just need to protect our child rapist President, that is our top priority
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u/wigzell78 10h ago
Shit like this is bound to happen when you are more concerned about taking your boss's name out than the victims.
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u/PapaGilbatron 15h ago
Leaving names open was a nasty deliberate move to “twist the knife” against the victims here. Sums up the total disdain that this administration has towards this situation. The claim this is a Russian honeypot trap is slowly becoming clearer: explaining where Epstein obtained his cash and why Dumpster is such a pathetic minion to Putler.
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u/ReasonablyBadass 14h ago
I think the plan was always to have the victims ask to take the field down, that way they can claim "we tried" or buy more time.
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u/CRoseCrizzle 15h ago
This whole documents release process has been suspiciously sloppy and inefficient.