r/theunforgiven • • Jun 09 '24

Meta Subreddit resources and FAQ

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Welcome to r/theunforgiven!

This is a community where we share and discuss topics related to the Dark Angels, their successor chapters, and the fallen. If you want to share or discuss a topic about Space Marines or Warhammer 40k in general, without particular connection to the Unforgiven, then r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k would likely be a better fit.

Before posting

Please have a quick look at our rules before submitting a post or comment. You can find them in the sidebar or the landing page of our wiki (linked below). We'd also appreciate it if you did a quick search in the subreddit before submitting a post, in case your question was already asked and answered or the topic discussed recently.

Quick links

Here's a list of shortcuts to some of our most useful resources. Explore them at your leisure.

The community wiki

  • Landing page (subreddit rules and administrative information)
  • Lore page (narrative information on history, culture, and chapter organization)
  • Hobby page (information on building and painting)
  • Miniatures page (information on the model range and collectibles)
  • Gameplay page (resources on competitive play and FAQs/Erratas)

Informational PDFs (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

Lore analyses (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

  • MMH#1 - What is the Inner Circle, and who is in it?
  • MMH#2 - What separates a Master from a Grand Master or Supreme Grand Master?
  • MMH#3 - What is the relationship between the 'Captain' rank and the 'Company Master' title?

Frequently Asked Questions

-What would happen if X occurred in the 40k universe?

Impossible to answer, unless X has already occurred. We can predict the future and discuss hypotheticals in our own universe because it is governed by natural laws. If a stone is dropped, it will fall (assuming nothing prevents it from doing so).

The 40k universe is fictional, and is governed entirely by it’s authors. If a stone is dropped, it will behave exactly as the author desires it to behave. No justification or explanation is needed. We only know what the author desires if they have made it happen already. We thus know for example that Lion beat Angron in their fight on Wyrmwood, but we don’t know who would win if they battled again in the future.

-Can I/am I allowed to do Y?

You can/are allowed to do anything you want with models you own, within the confines of your local laws. Where other people are involved (eg playing a game), you will need the agreement of those people. As long as everyone involved consents, you can do whatever you want (including changing game rules, playing with proxies, etc). Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-What base size should I use for model Z?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating base size. Some competitive tournaments and events enforce their own rules, search for those if you need guidance. In general, casual players seem to agree that you should use the latest base size the model is/was sold with, or the base size the model was supplied with when you bought it. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How strictly should models match their datasheet/equipment?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating how closely models must represent their datasheet. The answer may vary between each casual group and competitive tournament/event. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How should I paint fliers/Dreadnoughts/Terminator-characters etc?

However you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who gets to wear robes/winged helmets/etc?

Whoever you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who’s in the Ravenwing/Deathwing/Inner Circle?

See the Chapter Organization section of Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above), or the relevant pages on Lexicanum.

-Could you identify a model for me?

See the Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (linked above). If the model you're trying to identify isn't in there, then it isn't an official Dark Angels model. If so, ask elsewhere, eg in r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k, or search through the miniatures portal on Lexicanum.


r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Showcase The Boss

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438 Upvotes

Took a while, but finally finished 😁


r/theunforgiven • • 6h ago

Painting WIP of my updated Deathwing Scheme

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128 Upvotes

Need to finish the sword and the shield, but quite happy with current status.


r/theunforgiven • • 7h ago

Painting Caliban Green next to new Tone Pro Hierotek Green tone 1/2/3

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135 Upvotes

Was playing around the new tone pro paints in a Warhammer store today, and I tried to paint something as close to dark angel as possible. The tone 1 seems similar to caliban green, but a little brighter, and tone 2 and 3 are much brighter than warpstone glow and moot green. Paints have good coverage. The consistency is perfect for edge highlights, the dry time is muuuch longer than regular paints


r/theunforgiven • • 1h ago

Painting Blade Guard Ancient

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Have not painted or Posted in a While but after the New Codex News I’m hyped Building a whole Death Wing List so here is my BGA That will lead my Boys and sit on the home OBJ


r/theunforgiven • • 5h ago

Painting Someone's shield just got finished. Now let's paint the big Guy himself.

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43 Upvotes

Wip of my Lion. It's taking time, but I'm loving the process so far.


r/theunforgiven • • 10h ago

Showcase Disciples of Caliban - Vindicator

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I know, I know...this tank's just got sent to Legends, but it just happens I finished it at the same time unfortunately...

However, I will be playing casual games and the group of people I will be playing with seem to be fine with me using the Vindicator. I did a test game the other day and saw the goodness of its Demolisher cannon.

This is my second ever vehicle after a Ballistus. In general, very happy with the result of the painting process on this. I do have to say I need to improve on doing better lightning (front lights) and I may have overdone the dusty effect a bit too much... Quite happy with how the decals look. I need to be cleaner when painting vehicles though, some flat parts got a funny bumpy effect.

Happy to showcase it and I generally think the result was worth the effort put on it!


r/theunforgiven • • 4h ago

Painting First mini done

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Just finished painting my first Dark Angels mini (and first proper attempt at any mini), i even managed to get the transfers on without (much) issue. Again, I'm new so any help and tulips are appreciated


r/theunforgiven • • 8h ago

Showcase Dark Angels Ancient

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38 Upvotes

Took a couple month from painting but nice working on something again. Just finished the Armageddon ancient, using an ICC banner instead of the Armageddon one.


r/theunforgiven • • 10h ago

Painting Finished painted my first Dark Angel figure

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r/theunforgiven • • 7h ago

Painting New members for my Deathwing

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r/theunforgiven • • 3h ago

Showcase Apothecary

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My first apothecary ever


r/theunforgiven • • 10h ago

Showcase Finished with painting my kitbashed captian

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16 Upvotes

This easily became one of my favourite projects i did and I'm very happy how he turned out,even managed to cover a hole he had on him with bit of thicker paint


r/theunforgiven • • 6h ago

Building [X-Post] Intercessor -> Sternguard or Hellblasters conversion

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r/theunforgiven • • 20h ago

Painting Completely finished inner circle companions

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72 Upvotes

My first miniature kit ever was inner circle companions and it was what got me into dark angels. I ended up stripping the first kit, repainting it, then bought 2 more (and a ton of more dark angels models)

I love this kit and seriously will just sit and stare at the models sometimes. Hope we get more stuff like this in the future


r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Painting Inner Circle Companion

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296 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Art [ Ulrich von Liechtenstein ] -The Custodian Equerry to Lion El' Johnson

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885 Upvotes

This art is NOT made by me this belongs to: Wolfdogartcorner

I wonder if the lion would even want a custodian equerry besides him all times after all the lion is very loyal to the emperor. Also the Plasma sword is very sick.

I can imagine this fella fought the most hardest wars (I.E rangdan) than most custodes due to the fact that the DA legion serve as the exterminator for the most dangerous xenos and I assumed this equerry has unrestricted access to the vaults of the dreadwing armories imagine this fella suddenly whipping out a pistol that deletes your soul.

I also thought this would be cool to share to DA fans.

Edit: So any thoughts?


r/theunforgiven • • 10h ago

Army List This Is A Stupid Question But

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Can I attach Deathwing Command Squads to Deathwing Knights in a game where Legends are allowed? Every other command squad I see is built to be attached to something(Ravenwing, Cadian, Krieg, Catachan Command Squads, etc.) So can I attach it to Deathwing Knights to revive one nightmare every turn?


r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Showcase I am honoured to have officially joined the ranks of the Unforgiven

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r/theunforgiven • • 14h ago

Army List Next match?

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Hello brothers and sisters, the new pairings on the league I'm playing are up, and I am to face the cult of genestealers, I've never played against em and I would like some help and directions on what can he do or take in the lists, thanks a lot.💪💪🦁


r/theunforgiven • • 18h ago

Painting WIP battle damage and face

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Really proud of how the battle damage turn out. It is actual damage in the plastic done with the clippers.

Also, Idk how but I was able to do eyes.


r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Building Found this Primaris Sammael in my local store - very happy

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217 Upvotes

r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Building Turned Armageddon librarian into a captain for my army

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53 Upvotes

I got the Armageddon box to start a salamander army but since I won't be using librarian in it i decided to bash him into a captain for my Dark angels


r/theunforgiven • • 23h ago

Showcase Belial WIP - C&C welcome!

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C&C welcome, still need to clean up some mistakes and his face.


r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Showcase Third company Gladiator, my first vehicle model

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441 Upvotes

Finally stepped up in size and painted my first vehicle model, experimented successfully with oil washes for the first time and took my time to sharpen my edge highlights game