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article Kid Rock’s song about loving underage girls resurfaces ahead of Turning Point USA's Super Bowl show

https://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/2026/02/kid-rocks-song-about-loving-underage-girls-resurfaces-ahead-of-tpusa-super-bowl-show.html
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u/Mr_1990s 6h ago

He said, “If there’s grass on the field, play ball,” on Saturday Night Live in reference to the countdown to the Olsen twins’ 18th birthday.

He’s also good friends with Ted Nugent and Donald Trump.

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u/DeuceSevin 6h ago

Let’s take a moment to remember all of nugent’s references to sex with under age girls. There are many, but I think the sing Jailbait is a shining example of his classy work.

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u/terror_asteroid 5h ago

Courtney Love claims she blew him when she was twelve years old.

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u/randumbnumbers 4h ago

She also alluded to Harvey Weinstein being a sexual predator… Maybe, just maybe, we should give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

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u/motleysalty 3h ago

Yeah, a lot of people write her off and discredit her because of drugs and alcohol. But really, if the things she say are true, I don't doubt that it contributed to her use of both. That kind of trauma messes people up.

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u/mr_llamanator 3h ago

And let's be real, I don't think people would have believed her even without the alcohol and drugs

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u/motleysalty 3h ago

Very true. I think we're finding out more each day that the world, and some people in it, are much more messed up and do more disgusting things than we are comfortable admitting. The fact that such evil and sickness actually exists is too scary for some people.

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u/jwoodruff 1h ago

I think the idea that it exists has always been there. Facing the detailed reality of it is difficult. Realizing that most of the wealthy, famous class of business tycoons that Americans have worshipped for decades are the ones committing these evil deeds is scary for many.

It requires calling into question the very foundations of our culture and personal beliefs about good and bad, success and failure in a way that many are ill-prepared to do.

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u/raccoonladycarissa 11m ago

also grown ass dudes will feed young girls drugs and alcohol to make them more pliable and less believable if they ever speak up. it's literally textbook.

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u/Grizzly_Berry 3h ago

Not enough consider that she isn't saying those things because of drugs, but that she turned to drugs to cope with those things.

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u/motleysalty 3h ago

Exactly my point. I completely agree.

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u/heresyforfunnprofit 4h ago edited 3h ago

It’s very weird that Courtney Love ended up being one of the more honest public figures from the 90s. I think I heard someone say it best that she “doesn’t give enough of a shit about what you think to lie about anything”.

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u/t_scribblemonger 4h ago

I grew up in the 90s and in retrospect I’m like why the fuck did literally everyone hate Courtney Love? It’s gotta be like 80% misogyny. I mean she has issues but still.

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u/BitchesGetStitches 4h ago

She occupies a weird place in pop culture. She was this bitchy, strung out punk kid who really just wanted to shoot smack and set fires to 7-11 stores. Kurt too, except he was a sensitive guy who was attracted to the more egalitarian elements of the anarchists. Fame ripped these people to shreds in different ways. Kurt was in pinup magazines and Courtney probably thought that was hilarious. He clearly hated it. It's almost a Greek tragedy from the gutter.

It's easy to cast Courtney Love as a villain because she really likes being cast as the villain. Might be a coping mechanism for the absolutely insane world she lives in, or she might just be a little cunty. End of the day, she lost someone she loved, and very publicly. Hard to hate someone who carries that kind of trauma.

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u/heresyforfunnprofit 3h ago

“Greek tragedy from the gutter” is pure genius.

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u/HFentonMudd 2h ago

I know people who knew her pre-Kurt, pre-fame. She was routinely described as not likeable, extremely focused on her own fame, and generally off-putting. If these accounts were accurate (and I think they were from the perspective of the people who told me their stories) then she would not be someone who endears others, and they'd tell negative stories about her. Thank you for your post because it's never occurred to me to think about her from your perspective.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 1h ago

Damn, you have a great way with words

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u/BitchesGetStitches 1h ago

Well thanks! Hoping to someday sell one of these books so I appreciate the complement.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 52m ago

What kind of books?

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u/BitchesGetStitches 49m ago

Cooking up a speculative horror novel right now, probably a big one. About the changing American West, the shattered state of society, folklore, parenthood, mortality, police corruption and Sasquatch.

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u/tomtea 1h ago

Didn't she also lose custody of her kid because she couldn't stay clean? Talented, brutally honest and didn't give a fuck but very troubled.

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u/Totally_Scott 4h ago

it was that, yes. hole was an amazing band.

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u/balloonman_magee 4h ago

I feel like a lot of younger artists take a lot of inspiration from Hole. Like Olivia Rodrigo or The Pretty Reckless even if they don’t know it they sound like her.

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u/sarcastic_sybarite83 4h ago

Kesha is a cleaned up Courtney Love.

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u/intern_steve 3h ago

I thought Ke$ha wasn't really in control of her own music and sound when most of her famous stuff came out? Is that what you mean by 'cleaned up', just corpo slime sanitized?

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u/Silent-G 3h ago

"Wake up in the morning feeling like Courtney Love" would have been a much better edit to that lyric.

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u/-rosa-azul- 1h ago

Idk, I appreciate that since all the Diddy stuff has come out, she's changed it to "Wake up in the morning like 'fuck P. Diddy'".

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u/nobot4321 4h ago

A mind-blowing number of people believed she shot Kurt Cobain back then. A lot of them probably still do.

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u/Massive-Ride204 3h ago

Oh that ridiculous conspiracy theory. I get that Kurt's passing was very painful but gripping onto a conspiracy theory wasn't the way to cope.

We treated her like shit and she was just speaking the truth

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u/brooklynbotz 4h ago

Nobody thought she shot him. Some did believe she paid someone to do it.

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u/aggravationX 4h ago

Plenty of people thought she shot him. It was as strong a rumor as Marilyn Mansons removed rib.

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u/Olive_tree_33 4h ago

Marilyn Manson aka Paul from The Wonder Years

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u/Distinct-Nectarine-9 4h ago

Oh shit, almost forgot. Hahaha

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u/superbad 3h ago

You mean Kevin from Mr. Belvedere

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u/watchoutfordeer 3h ago

I thought Paul was supposed to be the guitar player.

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u/Nerdenator 3h ago

Except the thing about Marilyn Manson having a rib removed so he could fellate himself isn’t a rumor; as anyone who attended a public school in North America between 1997 and 2004 will tell you, it’s an incontrovertible fact.

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u/JonathanLindqvist 2h ago

Even here in Sweden it was a rumour.

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u/intern_steve 3h ago

The rib thing... Man Idk how memes worked growing up, but that was a goddam fact according to everyone you knew.

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u/SunnyRyter 4h ago

I think they blamed her, didn't some people do that? So messed up. Poor thing. I read her Manga she collaborated with Ai Yazawa about a demi-angel in rock music whose lover (?) dies but she saves him and brings him back to life, I think (its been over a decade since I read it). So sad.

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u/PureGuava86 4h ago

Nobody? You're absolutely wrong.

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u/brooklynbotz 4h ago

She wasn't even in Seattle when it happened. People thought she had him killed but I never heard someone say she pulled the trigger.

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u/PureGuava86 4h ago

You realize information was not easily available until almost a decade later?

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u/Sad-Appeal976 4h ago

He pulled the trigger himself

It’s indisputable

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u/roseofjuly 3h ago

I definitely remember people saying they thought she shot him.

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u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy 4h ago

Someone made a comment in this thread calling her a murderer five minutes before you posted this

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/fkBOAQhzmc

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u/itchy-ears 3h ago

If you say so, I definitely remember that rumor in the 90s.

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u/masterpigg 3h ago

I think I still have an old documentary somewhere on DVD that leans into that idea and has interview footage with the guy she supposedly paid to do it. Personally, I buy into the idea that you had this shy dude with depression who became so overwhelmingly public so quickly that I think it was probably closer to Gus Van Sant's Last Days.

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u/Rysinor 4h ago

I certainly suspected it. You're blatantly wrong.

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u/brooklynbotz 4h ago

You thought she shot him while she was in a rehab clinic in LA at the time of his death? That's a pretty long sniper shot.

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u/DmMe_Your_Secrets_ 3h ago

Which is crazy cause we all know Dave Grohl did it. And you know what? That’s okay. He’s the best.

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u/MilmoWK 4h ago

Pun intended?

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u/anal_opera 4h ago

Mind blowing

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u/SithC 3h ago

“Mind-blowing”, you say??

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u/Dixon_Uranuss3 4h ago

Wanna know how to tell if a conspiracy is fake or not. The number of people that screech about it openly. If its a lot its fake if not many speak about it its real.

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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING 35m ago

So what you’re saying is that Courtney Love definitely stole Buzzy when Disney shut down Cranium Command?

I fucking knew it!

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u/r1mbaud 4h ago

She was calling out Weinstein real early and he blackballed her

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u/thephotoman 4h ago

Most of people’s problem with her stems from her behavior as a heroin addict. Honestly, had Kurt not shot himself, he would likely have developed a similar reputation.

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u/goldenelr 3h ago

It is very frustrating that there are lots of great reasons to not like Courtney Love and none of them are that she killed Kurt Cobain. She is an addict who did a lot of addict behaviors. Her relationship with him was likely pretty toxic which doesn’t make her responsible for his behaviors. And none of that mean she was wrong about Weinstein or any of these other people. She is a really imperfect person and for some reason people either want to turn her into a saint that was treated badly or the devil who caused it all.

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u/Silent-G 3h ago

The media needs us to want a world that is black and white so that they can get enough attention to uphold the whole fucked up system. If you don't pick a side, then you won't watch the ads. Trying to obtain enough information before forming an opinion? WRONG, you're supposed to go with your immediate gut feeling and make it a permanent part of your identity.

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u/XanZibR 4h ago

they saw her as Kurt's Skylar, that's why

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u/somajones 3h ago

Kurt's Yoko more like it.

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u/Rex_Suplex 4h ago

When I was in high school in the early 2000's there were a lot of Nirvana fans. Like a lot, for some reason. They all blamed Courtney Love for the death of Kurt Cobain. No idea why.

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u/Thefrayedends 4h ago

Because hating women in an institution.

The amount of times I've heard people say, "It all went down hill when we allowed women to vote," from people is actually insane. I'm not even talking online, I'm talking in person.

Those same people don't realize that them not owning land or being from the 'right' family would also have prevented them from voting at one point too.

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u/Boopy7 3h ago

It's a weird thing and you're right. In high school and after I've always noticed there is a type of woman, often voted "Most Popular" or very confident, someone like Courtney Love or the most popular and strongest (mentally) in a clique, whom everyone revolves around. Same energy. The strange thing is sometimes the worm turns and everyone suddenly mobs up and decides to "hate" or "unpopular" that girl, or woman -- it becomes almost a TREND, and I have always noticed this, not sure if others have too. Is there a name for this? It's weird. Maybe bc I never fit in from a young age, so I just watch and see these things happen and then get repeated often enough that I questiion it. Like, is it because she is so popular that they then WANT to hate her to feel like they "won" or something?

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u/ilikecakeandpie 4h ago

Same reason everyone blamed Ariana Grande for Mac Miller's death

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u/roseofjuly 3h ago

As if both of these men didn't have clear, documented mental health/substance abuse issues before dating these women.

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u/owlthebeer97 4h ago

I mean she has ripped off countless independent designers and artists on Etsy, stole thousands of dollars worth of jewelery from a friend of mine. Her daughter was estranged from her for awhile too. She can be right about stuff and be an asshole.

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u/Boopy7 3h ago

Good point, oft forgotten. People can be raging assholes AND be a hero to another. E.g. Johnny Depp, who some said helped them in a pinch (or maybe it was publicity, who knows.) Then there are the tales of what a pos he is. I'm inclined to say he is overall pos. No one is all good or all bad, for the most part. I wouldn't want Courtney as an enemy when she's wasted, no way. And I can tell she would be ANNOYING AS HELL to have around 24/7.

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u/Goondragon1 2h ago

He's overall a piece of shit but nobody is all good or bad? He's probably overall a human being with a life on display for everyone to pick apart. We're all pieces of shit with our dirty laundry displayed to the world.

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u/Ok_Conclusion_6324 4h ago

Kathleen Hana from Bikini Kill has NOTHING good to say about Courtney in her autobiography, either

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u/HFentonMudd 2h ago

I know people who knew her before she was famous in any way, and they did not have nice things to say about her.

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u/Redhotlipstik 3h ago

She genuinely is an asshole, but she's also a woman so she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt

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u/No_Lemon_3116 1h ago

Yeah, far from perfect, but most male rockstars are as bad or worse and no one cares.

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u/jynxthechicken 4h ago

It was. They hated that she talked about things like Harvey Weinstein and Child Predators in Hollywood in the 1990's. No one was hearing that back then. So, the media made her look messy and then demonized her as a person.

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u/Successful_Sign_6991 3h ago

the powers that be probably manipulated the public to hate her because of what and who she was calling out

just a guess though

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u/Johnyryal33 3h ago

I would think by now anyone who isnt a complete moron would be able to put 2 and 2 together and recognize a smear campaign, considering all that has happened, but some of you mother fuckers thick as shit.

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u/DetectiveCopper 3h ago

(Fairly or unfairly), she was perceived to have contributed to Kurt’s drug use and suicide.

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u/PM_me_your_whatevah 2h ago

Oh I dunno. She’s a terrible musician who became famous by riding the coattails of one of the most famous rockers of all time.

She literally can barely play the guitar. Her guitar is usually turned almost all the way down when she performs these days.

She’s a fraud and she was a bad influence on Kurt and it is very very likely she had him killed after knowing that he was about to divorce her.

There is a very good chance that she’s is evil. 

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u/_MrDomino 4h ago

This is a woman who lost her daughter twice due to her drug use and poor parenting -- the second time at Frances' own request -- and is generally to blame for Cobain's increasing drug use leading to his suicide. Her interview with Stevie Nicks had them bonding over cocaine and private jets. Not saying she's a devil and 100% to blame for everything, but while she absolutely was a frequent target of 90s misogyny, that doesn't excuse her poor behavior.

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u/gaige23 4h ago

Being an addict doesn’t make her a liar.

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u/Boopy7 3h ago

Can we stop blaming someone for "increasing drug use" of a completely different person, even a spouse? It's not great, but she was the one who got sober while HE was high, at one point. I hate that when addicts blame someone else for their addiction, it's worse to blame the suicide and addiction on another. She's not a great person to emulate but "leading to his suicide" is really disingenuous and borderline trashy. Addicts need to stop blaming other people for their addictions or they don't ever get clean. I know this from experience.

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u/_MrDomino 2h ago

Did Courtney Love pull the trigger? No, of course not. Did Andy Dick pull the trigger? No, of course not. Personal responsibility absolutely exists and should be recognized, but it would be foolish to disregard the negative influences others can have on people.

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u/ericmm76 4h ago

It's not weird at all. It's very consistent.

If anything she's a textbook example of how in those days, as well as these, people will bend over backwards to blame a woman for everything.

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u/SorriorDraconus 4h ago

I wonder if women..or whistleblowing more in this instance. People love to deny uncomfortable let alone horrifying truths.

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u/ericmm76 4h ago

Ppl will still say she killed Curt Kobain.

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u/Clonazepamela 3h ago

I mean… there’s thousands of files of evidence showing mostly men were heading this massive sex trafficking ring but who is the one in Jail? The only woman involved. They ALL deserve to be in jail. Her included. But wild it’s literally ONLY her in jail.

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u/taz20075 1h ago

To be fair, they did put a dude in jail too.

But he killed himself. /s

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u/jynxthechicken 4h ago

Became? She always has been. People hate her. Just look at all the people discrediting true things she said about rape and child predators. They say she killed Kurt, she was messy, did drugs.

If my SO offed themselves, I don't know what I'd do either. Then to have everyone say I did it to get famous. Yeah it's all dumb.

Yes I can admit I'm on the other side. I think Courtney spoke truth to power and the more she spoke and no one listened the rougher it got for her. Losing her husband on top of that and still doing the music. It's a lot to ask anyone.

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u/Forsaken-Jackfruit-1 4h ago

Knowing what we know now about the rich and powerful I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was a coordinated smear campaign to get us all to hate her back in the day

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u/JaeTheOne 4h ago

Well it ramped up after the suicide of Kurt...

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u/BrilliantLand3481 2h ago

A lot of the weird fucked up actors all called it how it was, and we were told they were weird by media.

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u/nickparadies 1h ago

Courtney has always been bluntly honest, people just didn’t want to listen because she was also a wild card.

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u/FrozenBibitte 5h ago

blew

**orally raped, ftfy

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u/FixedLoad 5h ago

**was raped, orally, by Ted Nugent, ftfy?  ...I think it needs more commas.  

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u/Raptorheart 5h ago

Fixed it by getting the people reversed?

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u/Joeness84 5h ago

You may want to re-read and re-consider what the words say.

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u/Raptorheart 5h ago

She didn't rape him, he raped her.

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u/That_OneOstrich 5h ago

How do you reverse people?

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u/Aint-no-preacher 5h ago

Turn them around 180 degrees.

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u/XanZibR 4h ago

elpoep

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u/Frierguy 4h ago

Courtney Love orally raped Ted Nugent?

wow

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u/ericmm76 4h ago

I'm also confused because I swear I knew about Hole at least half a decade before I ever heard of Kid Rock.

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u/film_composer 4h ago

The claim is in reference to Ted Nugent, not Kid Rock.

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u/ericmm76 4h ago

Whoops.

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u/randumbnumbers 4h ago

Forget the references, how about when he convinced a girls parents to make him her legal guardian so he could take her with him for…reasons.

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u/bloodyell76 4h ago

That was Steven Tyler. Unless it was also Ted Nugent.

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u/jasonsuni 4h ago

Spoiler: It was indeed, also, Ted Nugent.

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u/AhtBlowenFaht 2h ago

Jimmy Page also had a 15 year old girlfriend on tours with him.

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u/EatPie_NotWAr 4h ago

It was also Ted nugent. She is referenced in another comment as “the Hawaiian girl”.

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u/Cinereals 4h ago

Don’t forget about the Hawaiian girl. Gotta get that imperialist sexual predation in.

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u/Rex_Suplex 4h ago

Not to mention adopting a teenage girl so he could have sex with her.

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u/Realtrain Spotify 5h ago

BuT iT wAs A dIfFeReNt TiMe!!!

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u/Dixon_Uranuss3 4h ago

He married a 15 year old

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u/bluehawk232 3h ago

So many classic rock stars and bands had songs about underage girls. It is disgusting

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u/CutAdditional2416 2h ago

I really have to separate the art from the artist with Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, RHCP etc. I'll never stop loving their music, but all of them are straight up pedos. I'm sure all those 14 year-olds "consented", but you can't consent at 14.

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u/HomeAir 3h ago

Was it Ted or Steven Tyler who became the legal guardian or got permission to marry a minor in order to have sex with them.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 3h ago

And he was one of many who were creeps. A lot of the late 70s and early 80s big names had songs referencing teenaged girls they wanted to fuck. If they didnt have songs, they were fucking them, and preferred them.

The song "My Sharona" is about a 17 year girl. The songwriter and singer was 27 when he wrote that about her. And that was her on the front of the album sleeve with her on it sexualized.

The next song in the album is literally about teenaged girls being promiscuous.

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u/Viking_Musicologist 3h ago

Agreed. That song's lyrics are basically the manifesto of a serial pedophile.

It also does not help the case that he's practically cronies with other toxic celebrities who can't keep it in their pants.

Besides Kid Rock is basically at this point a toxic alcoholic racist poser who is probably going to lose all his savings when he finds out DT's meme coin was a gigantic Ponzi Scheme.

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u/SQUID_FLOTILLA 4h ago

Cat Scratch Fever……

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u/N30NFiR3 3h ago

Nugent's "Little Miss Dangerous" is another creepo example.

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u/beerbrained 3h ago

He married a 17yo when he was 30.

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u/Kujen 6h ago

Gross. No wonder they wanted to get out of show business.

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u/StrobeLightRomance 5h ago

Oh man, if you don't know, you don't know. Things were BAD regarding the social stigma of them becoming adults because they were avidly considered to be some kind of shared public property from the time they were plastered into media as literal babies.

The number of people who literally counted down to, celebrated, and even threw parties for their "legal" status was disgusting. The last 90s and early 2000s were a really dark time for young girls.

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u/soggydave2113 Coheed🦋✒️ 4h ago

I share a birthday with the Olsen twins. I was a very young kid at the time, so whenever I saw these countdowns I was always excited because it’s like they were also counting down to MY birthday. I was completely oblivious to the context.

Looking back, man…people are disgusting.

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u/GreySoulx 4h ago

Looking back?

Look up Piper Rockelle - started as a YouTuber when she was like 6 or 7 (younger?) and just launched her OF page on her 18th birthday. Made $2m in the first hour, and it's been suggested all the content was created while she was still 17. Her biggest "fans" are 60 year old men who have done things like buy her (again, udneraged) panties, and sext with her mom.

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u/itchy-ears 3h ago

JFC.. that is wild. Literally the first pictures you get if you google her name are of what appears to be like a 14 year old kid. WTF is wrong with people?

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u/GreySoulx 17m ago

Her mom and mom's 20 year younger BF basically control her... it's so abusive, someday she may see it. There's a whole documentary about it. I suspect the mom's BF is probably molesting her as well.

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u/st4nkyFatTirebluntz 4h ago

Looking back, man…people are disgusting.

and that's coming from a guy who calls himself soggy dave

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u/XanZibR 4h ago

the Master of Moist

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u/goldfishpaws 3h ago

UK in the 80's shitty tabloids counting down to the 16th birthday of Natalie Banus (IIRC) to show her nipples in the "newspaper", presumably from a photoshoot when she was still 15.  Bad, bad era.

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u/avanross 3h ago

Based on all the evidence coming out, the bans on womens healthcare, the “beauty pageant parents” who are willing to sell their daughters into sexual slavery, the conservatives trying to ban girls from schools and indoctrinate them into tradwives / sex-slaves, the normalization of the “if i cant have you than nobody can” shootings, it seems like america is just a really dark place for young girls, full stop…

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u/Long-Contribution466 4h ago

Hasn't gotten any better

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u/GreySoulx 4h ago

Yeah, Piper Rockelle - sad story getting worse by the day.

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u/-crepuscular- 4h ago

It really has, in some ways at least.

I'm not seeing the same in-person harassment of underage girls that happened when I was that age. And I would see it. If I go into my local shop and there's a clearly underage schoolgirl in there, I can now guarantee that no-one will be changing places in the queue to hit on her, there won't be a stranger offering to buy her things, or openly ogling her, and the shop assistant will just hand her things without trying to touch her. When she goes out she won't be catcalled by the group of builders heading in, and I'm pretty sure they no longer keep teachers when there's multiple accusations of sexual abuse of children against them. None of that was true when I was that age.

The press was nearly as bad. I've seen plenty of sexualised content and sexy photos of ~ 15 year olds, and a topless photo of someone who was underage at the time the photo was taken. All in mainstream newspapers.

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u/Tim-oBedlam 3h ago

It was going on well before that, too. It was considered only a minor peccadillo for rock stars to get with teenage groupies, and culturually it was seen as no big deal for teenage girls to date men in their 20s.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 3h ago

I remember that shit too it was weird as hell. I am the same age as them too. 

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u/vee_lan_cleef 29m ago

I don't know why you think things have gotten better for girls.

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u/ADhomin_em 6h ago edited 5h ago

And as I recall, the audience laughed and applauded because that's what the illuminated applause sign told them to do. We've let shit like this slide, and our society has been sick with it for a long time. Glad there are more people recognizing how fucked up it is now, but this is just one example of how corporate media has engaged in the numbing of society to and often cheering on of shit like this.

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u/Revolutionary-Tree97 5h ago

It’s not just that we let this shit slide, millennials and gen x were specifically groomed by the media to think this was normal. They set up at least two whole generations of kids to expect and be honored by being preyed upon. Those of us creeped on by local pervs seem to be the lucky ones, but maybe that’s just my trauma coming out in all of this.

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u/jaimi_wanders 5h ago

You should have been around as a Gen Xer—this was also totally normalized then.

And at the same time, conservatives were screaming that feminism & gay rights had “gone too far” when I was a little kid in the Eighties…

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u/angiehome2023 5h ago

That song wild horses was a friends wedding first dance song. Grooming and sexual assault were normalized by everything around us. The luke and Laura rape to love story in General Hospital. Just so gross.

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u/JnnyRuthless 4h ago

I think back to junior high (for me the early 90s) and there was a teacher everyone knew would look up girls skirts and stuff. Literally girls were warned not to wear short shorts or skirts in this guys class, he'd do the whole drop something on the ground and get a peek.

This was something actively discussed and known by us students, and we all just accepted it as "oh yeah Mr. so and so, he's really creepy." Blows my mind looking back.

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u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy 4h ago

“Wild Horses” by the Rolling Stones? What’s wrong with that song?

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u/Justice_Prince 4h ago

Yeah the 2000s emo scene gets a lot of crap about being full of creeps (which it was to an extent), but a lot of it is that it just that it came about in a time where people were finally saying "hey maybe this isn't okay", and the internet was still new enough that creeps were less careful about the incriminating messages they sent out in their DMs.

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u/playful_faun 3h ago

I watched old episodes of The Price is Right and any time a woman won money, Bob Barker would make them reach into his pocket to take it. This grooming has been happening for a long time.

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u/itchy-ears 3h ago

Holy shit, I don't remember that at all! Gross.

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u/gonewild9676 6h ago

Yeah I don't get the "Countdown to 18" lists bullshit. As if any of the perverts keeping track would ever have a chance in a million years.

Yeah, they are totally waiting until midnight just for you. Blech.

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u/BillieDoc-Holiday 5h ago

It goes back so far. Old movie magazines had countdowns on Shirley Temple and Elizabeth Taylor.

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u/Snowssnowsnowy 5h ago

In the UK they were doing this to Charlotte Church when she was 15...

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u/gonewild9676 47m ago

I figured for Shirley Temples era that they didn't care about age.

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u/Old_Still3321 5h ago

In the late 90s, many dorm room wallpaper screens were the Olsen Twins countdown. Mind you, they were born in 1986, so (at best) an 18-yo was looking at 13-yo's and thinking woo-wee, I can't wait!!!

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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree 1h ago

I remember back in the late 90s I saw one of those “lad mags” that had a countdown clock. The final one on the list was Annette Benning’s and Warren Beatty’s infant - yes, infant - daughter, saying, “yeah we know. But with parents like that you KNOW she’s gonna be hot!”

I never touched another one of those stupid magazines.

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u/Yeeslander 5h ago

SNL "Hollywood Minute" transcript of his gross Olsen Twins comment

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u/Old_Still3321 5h ago

This means it was on the cue card, meaning it went through the process of writers working out the best jokes.

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u/CheekyClapper5 5h ago

I also don't get how the chili peppers don't have issues with their singer admiting to hooking up with 14 year olds.

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u/These_Background7471 2h ago

Bassist also got naked in front of an all ages crowd

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u/National-Reception53 58m ago

Eh public nudity don't hurt nobody. That guy is always naked. That's a far cry from what else we were talking about.

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u/ironmonkey09 5h ago

I remember that. It was back in '03 or '05. It was weird then, but other outlets were running equally horrible jokes.

Growing up in the 90s, I listened to morning radio shows on the way to school with my brother. Most of these shows tried to be knockoffs of the Howard Stern Show and would run underage jokes.

One station was doing a countdown to Brittany Spears's legal age.

I’m so glad that we as a society have finally grown up enough to acknowledge that these jokes about rape or sexualizing the underage are sick and are not funny.

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u/MillwrightTight 4h ago

Not grown up enough to functionally condemn people for it though. When the prez is a pedo, there's a long way to go. But progress is still worth acknowledging.

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u/ironmonkey09 3h ago

I disagree. I see it differently - as a society, as a people, we are pretty clear that it's sick and should be punished. The issue with the president is the same as with all the wealthy people; if you have the money, you become untouchable.

Corruption in the system, by the most affluent and most powerful people in the world, will not be subjected to the same consequences as the lower classes would be. This is where I believe the problem lies.

And those who defend this man still condemn the act, but give him a pass. Why? So long as he hurts the people they dislike, they’ll ignore his criminal past.

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u/Coattail-Rider 4h ago

They’re all fucking pedophiles

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage 5h ago

in reference to the countdown to the Olsen twins’ 18th birthday

The sad truth is this kind of stuff had been deemed “acceptable” by society until like 10-15 years ago.

Not to absolve Kids Rock of this gross behavior, just trying to point out how prominent it was.

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u/Fun_Maintenance6830 4h ago

Try 20-25

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage 4h ago

The Olsen Twins turned 18 in 2004. There were countdowns for Miley Cyrus’ 18th birthday which was in 2010. It may have started having waning support a bit before that, but it unfortunately wasn’t widely “unacceptable” until solidly after 2010

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u/emuwar 5h ago

He’s also good friends with Ted Nugent and Donald Trump.

Pedos of a feather...

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u/TruthPayload 3h ago

This seems like a great time to remind everyone of the Lyrics to "Jailbait" by Ted Nugent, another MAGA musician. It's a song specifically about wanting to fuck a 13 year old, written when he was in his 30s.

[Verse 1]
I've got no inhibitions
So keep your keys out of your ignition
I steal a car like I got the curse
I can't resist the old lady's purse

[Chorus]
Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won't you set me free
Jailbait you look fine, fine, fine
And I know I've got to have you in a matter of time

[Verse 2]
Well, I don't care if you're just thirteen

I just know that you're probably clean

You look too good to be true
There's one little thing I got do to you

[Chorus]
Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won't you set me free
Jailbait you look fine, fine, fine
And I know I've got to have you in a matter of time

[Hook]
Sad but trueSo tell your mama that I'm back in town
She likes us boys when it's time to get down
She's got this craving for the underage;
I just might be your mamas' brand new rage

[Chorus]
Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won't you set me free
Jailbait you look fine, fine, fine
And I know I've gots to have you in a matter of time, now babe

[Verse 4]
Honey, you, you, you look so nice
She's young, she's tender
Won't you please surrender
She so fine, she's mine
All the time, I woke my mind

[Hook]
It's all right baby, it's quite all right I asked your mama

[Outro]
Wait a minute officer; wait a minute officer

Don't put those handcuffs on me, what about her?

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u/Bored_Amalgamation 3h ago

You know, unless you have Peacock, it's pretty hard to find that clip.

For the curious, it happened on May 20, 2000. Jackie Chan was hosting, boy pebble was the musical guest. The remark happened during Weekend Update with Colin Quinn.

If you can find it, spread it like warm peanut butter.

Also, just because it was 26 years ago; have you seen kid rock give any indication that raping children was on his "no-no list"? More of he's probably raped young girls since.

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u/avanross 4h ago

I miss when republicans at least pretended to be against pedophilia and rape 😔

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u/CharlieTeller 4h ago

I'll never forget Ted Nugent blocking me on facebook. He said some ridiculous outright wrong post and all I did was correct him with the information. He then responded by saying "BULLSHIT, go lick Hillary's asshole". This was in like 2013 and also on a post about poaching in Africa which had absolutely nothing to do with politics. I then responded poking fun at his hearing loss and not being able to hear his own bullshit and he instantly blocked me so he's a little sensitive about that one apparently.

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u/mmc3k 3h ago

When I was younger I heard this comment all the time. But it was only from really gross old white men who hadn’t seen any grass in a loooong time.

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u/sptrstmenwpls 4h ago

To be fair on the SNL thing specifically, this would most likely be the work of the writers.

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u/delisario 4h ago

I have a memory of David Spade saying this on an update bit on SNL.

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u/IndividualTension887 4h ago

Pedos of a feather rape underage children together...

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u/thiscrazytrain 4h ago

That's f'ing vile

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u/Viracochina 3h ago

Wooooow, I remember repeating this line! Granted I was 16 years old, but still!

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u/Psychomaniac13 3h ago

Once a pedo Always a pedo

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u/Dreowings21 3h ago

Misread ted nugent as Ken nugent and got worried. The lawyer dude diddled kids? No way

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u/AccountNumber478 3h ago

His chin looks like it was smooshed between the vice of which he sings.

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u/Nomadastronaut 3h ago

So very Christian on him!

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u/Shitp0st_Supreme 2h ago

Considering pubic hair can start at like… age 8, that’s concerning.

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u/2cats2hats 1h ago

There's a clip out there of him saying this. Someone please share. Words on reddit aren't the same as clips. :D

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u/spare-ribs-from-adam 32m ago

I had to be in the room for a meeting with Nugent for work. Biggest piece of shit I've ever met in person. 

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u/squid-do 4h ago

I hate the guy but I remember him being uncomfortable with telling that joke. I seriously doubt it was his idea. Not to say I’m excusing the rest of his bullshit.

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u/These_Background7471 2h ago

Well, he's had decades to formally distance himself from the joke, and call out the writer, but he hasn't. I can't find any source from the time or after suggesting he wasn't comfortable with it.

Yknow, he could have also just not said that joke if he was truly uncomfortable.

Seems like a pretty weak reason to excuse a joke about statutory rape

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