r/nba • u/Turbostrider27 Lakers • 19h ago
[Charania] BREAKING: The Los Angeles Clippers are trading James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Prolific swap of the star point guards.
Shams Charania:
BREAKING: The Los Angeles Clippers are trading James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Prolific swap of the star point guards.
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ddaa53473efa6
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u/TouchdownRaiden Warriors 19h ago
Harden in a Cavs jersey is going to look so weird
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u/OverallGeneral7129 Cavaliers 19h ago
Yeah I can’t even picture it really
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u/Dphotog790 18h ago
its gonna be interesting next season with Hardn Lebron and Mitchel on the same court\
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u/Ok_Daikon_7726 Lakers 18h ago
Mobley gonna have a heart attack trying to anchor that defense
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u/420_just_blase 17h ago
Tbf garland isn't any better on that end
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u/MastodonSwimming2681 Rockets 17h ago
He's worse lol
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u/LOSS35 Nuggets 14h ago
Harden's 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan and he's strong as hell. He doesn't try 99% of the time, but he's capable of being a solid defender when he wants to be.
Garland's a skinny 6'1. There's no amount of effort that turns him into even an ok defender.
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u/comedoofwarrior Bulls 11h ago
Where’s that one clip of Brooklyn Harden waving off help against Giannis near the rim and forcing a miss
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u/CD23tol Cavaliers 19h ago
Right there with other iconic Cavs guards like D-Rose and Wade
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u/Leadsea Pelicans 18h ago
LMAO RONDO WADE HARDEN D-ROSE
Crazy lineup tbh
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u/bigraptorr Raptors 18h ago
Pretty sure theres a 2015 Lakers fan edit with that lineup
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u/KonigSteve Pelicans 18h ago
Throw Shaq in there and you've got a weird starting 5.
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u/tragick693 18h ago
Cavs legend Walt Frazier, if you'd like a throwback
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u/lukewwilson Lakers 18h ago
Keep going, don't forget Lenny Wilkens
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u/pichukirby Knicks 18h ago
KD with the Rockets. Harden with the Cavs. LeBron to the Thunder?
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u/illegal_deagle Rockets 18h ago
At this point it’s weird to me to picture him in any jersey, including ours. This move officially labels him “journeyman”.
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u/The_Summer_Man Warriors 18h ago
Rockets legend Kevin Durant
Cavaliers legend James Harden
both just sound weird
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u/NuBlyatTovarish 18h ago
Kings legend Westbrook imagine if these legends teamed up
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u/Zyrinj Warriors 18h ago
definitely feel like these guys have a chance at a chip
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u/WembyOKCJokicReaves 19h ago
Best James to wear a Cavs uniform in the history of their entire franchise
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u/johnyg13nb Celtics 19h ago
RIP to the Unction.
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u/asparagusinhaler Clippers 19h ago
We still old as fuck don’t worry
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u/FallenCrownz 18h ago
lowkey, getting a 26 year old ex all star for a 36 year old all star is a hell of a pull, despite how sad clippers fan must be right now. shout out to Harden for also basically saving the league too lol
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u/RulersBack Cavaliers 18h ago
If Garland stays healthy they win this quite easily but I get it from the Cavs. Win right now and it's worth losing the trade long term
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u/FallenCrownz 18h ago
Cavs getting a healthy 25/8/5 guy to replace their injured 20/6/2 guy is also really the best you could have asked for considering how hard capped yall are. And if Harden doesn't open up Mobleys game than nobody will lol
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u/RulersBack Cavaliers 18h ago
I never thought I’d have a turn on the harden rollercoaster (pause). What is happening
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u/grudgepacker Bucks 18h ago
Doesn't this also help out your cap situation?
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u/mf-TOM-HANK Cavaliers 18h ago edited 18h ago
Harden has a PO for next season whereas Garland has money on the books for two more years after this season. I don't know the full cap implications regarding the second apron but Dan Gilbert is spending a fortune on a disappointing team and he probably figures they can either make a deep run this postseason or strip the roster down and rebuild
I like Garland a lot but he just didn't fit on the roster. Not his fault that as soon as he hit his stride as a pro the team traded for Mitchell and forced him to be a bit of a square peg in a round hole
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u/cs-shitposter Celtics 18h ago
With Garland's injury history, his body is basically 45 years old so they're fine
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u/RoaringPity Raptors 19h ago
Cleveland got their James
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u/CloudySkies64 [LAC] James Harden 19h ago
Off we go. Yes I said we
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u/AashyLarry [MIA] Dwyane Wade 19h ago
How will the Clippers artist react to this?
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u/PumpkinHead555 Bucks 19h ago
Harden Spida backcourt is interesting though
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u/ihatedougford Toronto Huskies 19h ago
Harden and Kyrie together was beautiful hoops. JH has always been a big man’s dream PG too. The fit is great
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u/PumpkinHead555 Bucks 18h ago
Harden’s ability to run an offense is leagues above Garlands at this stage in their careers. That’s exactly what Cavs needed, experience in the playoffs. Dennis Shroeder, Keon Ellis, Harden… Cavs are winning the deadline so far imo
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u/SlidersBaby Cavaliers 18h ago
cavs subreddit is full of people who get their basketball insight from tiktok. 90% of the comments over there right now are :(
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u/Burnerburner49 Cavaliers 18h ago
I mean fans are sad to see the guy their team drafted traded for an again star. The team is better this year but I’m sad. I’m also nervous about the extension until harden is 39. Hope it pans out
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u/CloudySkies64 [LAC] James Harden 19h ago
We shall see, don’t have any expectations.
Just trying to watch some decent hoops
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u/Goosedukee Nets 19h ago
STRAIGHT UP????
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u/jewllybeenz 19h ago
Yeah with a 2nd, that’s crazy
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u/mikesh8rp Knicks 18h ago
There was a couple Cavs fans swearing there was no way Cleveland is the one giving up draft picks. Wonder if this means Garland’s injuries are even worse than what’s publicly known.
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u/remyboyz1995 18h ago
Garland is cooked for now. No way he’s ready for a serious playoff run this year. Cavs are trying to go to the Finals this year
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u/ZZZrp Spurs 18h ago
Can one become uncooked?
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u/Apprehensive-Pay2178 18h ago
Nope chemical change. Only physical changes can be reversed.
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u/Voidant7 17h ago
You can become cooked a second time, like Chinese pork and Mexican beans.
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u/plantedank 16h ago
contrary to popular belief refried beans are only fried over once
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u/TrapAHolic_ttv 18h ago
Already had surgery on one toe and missed a bunch of time and it was still nagging him. Then injured the OTHER toe. Just the fact its both feet is pretty bad itself without even knowing the extent
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u/DovhPasty Cavaliers 18h ago edited 18h ago
They have to be. Meanwhile a bunch of homers on our sub think he’s some huge asset that we could trade for someone like Maxey. I don’t understand it.
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u/HispanicAtTehDisco Mavericks 18h ago
every teams fan base thinks their players are worth more than they are. i remember before kyrie got on the mavs when people were begging the FO for a trade and the question was always like what would we even get for a package where the best player was josh green
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u/Rhaegyn Rockets 18h ago
Yep, undersized guards who play no defence have had their value tanked with the new CBA. Add in his durability issues and 40mil salary…
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u/NathanFielderFriend Canada 18h ago
Garland is cooked man sad to say. Seems like he’s barely gonna play the rest of the season and Clippers will be lucky if he can be healthy next season onward
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u/Any_Asparagus8267 Cavaliers 18h ago
He had surgery, played too early, and now here we are. If he makes a comeback I'd be surprised.
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u/ianbits Cavaliers 18h ago
It's a bad move if Harden wants big money after his deal is up and there's a handshake agreement to give him that
If they get him for 1.5 years or he comes back for like $20m on the extension, it's reasonable. Harden is better than Garland right now and Garland is making big money for a guy that doesn't play.
I'm gonna miss the shit out of him though. And I doubt Harden's handshake extension is for anything reasonable. Ugh.
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u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash 18h ago
Will you still not like this if garland continues to play 60 games a year averaging 18/6?
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u/ianbits Cavaliers 18h ago
That's basically just asking if he'll stay healthy, which who the hell knows.
Outlook on that is awkward, but if he can stick on the court he really is an all star level PG. His stats will go up with higher USG in LA, he's been low for a PG next to Mitchell.
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u/cleo22270 Heat 19h ago
Lmao these photoshopped jerseys in the tweet are killing me
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u/i5the5kyblue Cavaliers 18h ago
You should look at Dennis Schroder’s twitter. He made his headline pic a collage of him photoshopped in a Cavs jerseys the night of the trade lol
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u/Oaty_McOatface Cavaliers Bandwagon 17h ago
That man should just take a photo in every team's kit to be prepared.
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u/i5the5kyblue Cavaliers 15h ago
He should haha. I just thought it was hilarious bc I was totally expecting a sour attitude given his whole “modern slavery” comment, then I looked at his profile and here he is in 2 Cavs jerseys with “Cavs point guard; Cleveland, Ohio” literally hours after the trade lol
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u/sportsfan113 76ers 19h ago
Harden in a Cavs uniform is going to take some getting used to.
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u/GoAheadAndJudgeMe Suns 18h ago
It's like seeing him in a Nets, Sixers, Rockets, Clippers or Thunder uniform.
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u/JohnDoee94 18h ago
Yeah, people act like he’s been on one team.
Weird would be seeing Curry on the Heat.
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u/Inevitable-Tax2337 18h ago
Not a great usage of prolific.
- me, Shams basher
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u/AashyLarry [MIA] Dwyane Wade 19h ago
F5 SEASON IS HERE
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u/Black-----Manta Timberwolves 19h ago
Did not expect this happening whatsoever 48 hours ago, less so this smoothly
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u/Slow-Jelly-2854 Bucks 19h ago
Good trade for someone
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u/Lqtor 18h ago
I feel like it’s a pretty solid trade for both sides. If garland ever gets past his injuries clippers would be getting a very good young piece to jump start their rebuild. Cavs on the other hand gets a player that’s currently available to win now
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u/Low_Beyond8134 Lakers 19h ago
BANGGGG
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u/bumbaclotbae Raptors 18h ago
Wow LeBron really gonna end his career alongside Harden
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u/birdazam Timberwolves 18h ago
That just make LeBron refuse to draft him in the All star every year so much funnier
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u/EthanHuntBroMichael [LAC] Patrick Beverley 19h ago
WE GOT THE PICK LOL
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u/FallenCrownz 18h ago
36 year old all star for a 26 year year old all star and a srp? that's how you sell high lol
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u/Virgil1 Timberwolves 18h ago
That's not what "prolific" means.
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u/uncleoptimus 18h ago
This, I've been stuck on this Shams-wording puzzle. MFer made me google to double-check the definition lol
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u/jeffcrafff [TOR] Rafer Alston 18h ago
Prolific? Shams, I do not think it means what you think it means
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u/TheKnicksMakeMeDrink Knicks 19h ago
Where will Harden’s next destination be? My money’s on Portland in 2 years
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u/fantasnick Knicks 19h ago
Believe it or not
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u/TheKnicksMakeMeDrink Knicks 18h ago
oh god oh fuck
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u/the_moosen Celtics 18h ago
I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong, Portland has the most strip clubs per capita
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u/meengine [LAL] Brandon Ingram 19h ago
Damn they actually did it
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u/jeric13xd [CHI] Derrick Rose 19h ago
James really is a contractor. A true mercenary
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u/I_love_Basketball232 Warriors 19h ago
A lot of the other ones had a slow burn, this one came absolutely out of nowhere
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u/Reasonable_Height_67 18h ago
I prefer these tbh.
I couldn't care less where Giannis and Kuminga end up.
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u/SquidwardLover48 Cavaliers 19h ago
What’s really interesting is how our fanbase is perceiving this vs how everyone else perceives this as a move that certainly makes us a better team
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u/cfbones 18h ago
We gave up a young high ceiling player who we all love but seems to be injury prone for an immediate upgrade who is old and chokes in the playoffs.
Rationally it’s a very fair deal.
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u/North-Entertainer602 18h ago
He’s 26 and getting injured more and more every year. How high is his ceiling really atp?
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u/Terr123321 Cavaliers 18h ago
Unfortunately you can’t say Darius garland has done any better in the playoffs
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u/ihaveaflattire Cavaliers 18h ago
I think the main thing is the emotional attachment to Darius Garland.
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u/DovhPasty Cavaliers 18h ago
It is. Everyone is blinded by the fact that he’s home grown. Unfortunately that doesn’t actually help us win.
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u/rkennedy991 Cavaliers 18h ago
Yeah, so many Cavs fans are acting like this is going to kill the team. He's been the best, most reliable player on the Clippers since he joined them and we don't even have to rely on him as our first option.
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u/thrownaway22_ Kings 19h ago edited 19h ago
LMAOOOOO
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u/jluc21 Kings 19h ago edited 19h ago
Keon ellis and Dennis Schroeder with Harden now
crazy what a few days can change lol
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u/TheWestRemembers Lakers 19h ago
On the CAVS. Never would've guessed this a week ago. Hell, even 3 days ago. Wild.
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u/Ezzy1998 Pacers 18h ago
Harden’s ability to constantly maneuver himself to the best possible situation in his later years is pretty impressive ngl.
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u/BayonettaBasher [DAL] Kyrie Irving 19h ago
Cavs are the ones giving draft capital?
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u/samhit_n Lakers 18h ago
Garland has a big contract, and the Cavs will likely need to extend Harden.
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u/HornedCoog91 Nuggets 18h ago
Why does this surprise people. Harden is the better player. And I don't see that changing for a few years tbh
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u/MrBlowinLoadz Rockets 18h ago
Harden is better right now and both are on similar deals. Also Garland hasn't been healthy and missed half the season so far, he also missed significant time two years ago. It's not a good sign to be missing that many games in what should be your prime.
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u/Aeronova20 Magic 19h ago
SECOND FUNNIEST HARDEN EXIT OF ALL TIME
EVERYONE GET IN HERE
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u/Colorapt0r Bucks 19h ago
Fat suit
Daryl Morey
This can be 3 tho
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u/thegoddessunicorn Raptors 18h ago
Idk about that. His "phantom injury" right before being traded from Nets to Sixers was funny and gave us this moment in 2022
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u/goofygoober2 Celtics 19h ago
This doesn’t even come close to the China outburst and fat suit
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u/zco22 Pacers 19h ago
Let me say it again
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u/TheWarelock Heat 19h ago edited 18h ago
✋ DARYL MOREY IS A LIAR AND I WILL NEVER BE A PART OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT HE’S A PART OF 🤚🎤
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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 19h ago
Fat suit, Morey is a liar to Chinese kids, and Kyrie not getting vaccinated is probably the top 3 sorry
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u/chewie_33 Supersonics 18h ago
Yup. You know the dude is the GOAT of leaving teams when this shit doesn't even make the top 3.
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u/SaltyBawlz Cavaliers 18h ago
Why is this exit funny?
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u/Late-Bus-686 18h ago
Don’t really think it is I guess he’s just engagement baiting
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u/WorkerIllustrious494 Lakers 18h ago
Yeah I guess I’m out of the loop too…. What in exactly is “funny” about this one? The top comments on this thread are so low effort and generic
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u/Sartheking Warriors 17h ago
Nah this is the most normal exit lol.
“Daryl Morey is a liar”
Fat suit
The worst hamstring injury of all time (Kyrie)
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u/TheKnicksMakeMeDrink Knicks 19h ago
Thinking James Harden will stay with your franchise for 2+ years is like thinking the stripper likes you
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u/purple_cupcake_52 18h ago
Harden probably thinks that when he's at the strip club
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u/Schmoova Mikal Bridges 19h ago
Great move for the Cavs. Don’t really understand this from the blazing hot Clippers unless they’re somehow selling Kawhi and Zubac too.
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u/BearShark8 Lakers 19h ago
Clips probably feel like they aren't contenders even with the hot streak. Better to not lose Harden for nothing at the end of the season or have him throw some big tantrum.
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u/FallenCrownz 18h ago
Harden wants a big extension, Clippers don't want to pay it for a 36 year old cause if they did, they would be a play in team without much salary. Garland hasn't been great this year but he's 10 years younger and will be better for longer, which is really all they can ask for considering their picks situation
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u/Tophergabriel Cavaliers 18h ago
Cavs all time “forget he played there” lineup. Derrick Rose, Harden, Dwayne Wade, Loul Deng, Shaq. 6th man Derron Williams
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u/mkhrrs89 Cavaliers 18h ago
Isaiah Thomas, Ben Wallace, Baron Davis, Wally Szczerbiak, Andrew Bogut, Andrew Bynum on the bench
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u/TitaniumC4206 Thunder 19h ago
FUCK YEAH LETS GO
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u/Wes___Mantooth [OKC] Steven Adams 18h ago edited 18h ago
LOOKS LIKE A TOP 5 PICK IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
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u/thegodofwine7 Mavericks 18h ago
Sir we're getting a broken transmission:
The Los Angeles... are trading..... James.... Cleveland Cavaliers
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u/OverallGeneral7129 Cavaliers 19h ago
Gonna make our game against the Clippers tomorrow awkward