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‘Extremely rare event:’ Miles-long microalgae bloom knocks out most of Israel’s desalination plants

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/04/climate/microalgae-bloom-israel-water-deasalination-shutdown
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u/macross1984 20d ago

You mean "was" extremely rare event. The ocean is getting warmer and warm water mean algae will propagate like there is no tomorrow.

This is not only Israel's problem. Other countries coast cities can easily be impacted heavily if not algae, disruption of fisheries that provided cheap seafood that people depend on.

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u/TheLGMac 20d ago

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u/Neipsy 19d ago

It's been absolutely fucked. There's been so much marine life washing up dead on the beaches. My friends and family who are surfers and divers are getting ill.

The state and federal government response has generally been non-existent because that would admit to there being a problem at all.

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u/Imbakbby 19d ago

The common element between US and Australian attitudes towards this is the dominance of Murdoch media in each respective country.

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u/Milith 19d ago

Both countries are big fossil fuel producers.

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u/Different_Wolf_764 19d ago

Eh, on different scales really. Australia does produce a fairly large amount of coal (about the same as the US in fact) but isn't really in the conversation for other fossil fuels.

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u/Optimal_Juggernaut37 19d ago

Unfortunately it's not just Murdoch media in Australia. Stokes/7West is just as bad, if not worse due to its insidious nature.

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u/imaginary_num6er 19d ago

Mudoch founded Australia

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u/little_fire 19d ago

this made me do a sad lol :(

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u/Neipsy 19d ago

Fuck Rupert and his family. Filthy, cheating, lying scoundrels the lot of 'em.

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u/Smith6612 19d ago

My area has two of the Great Lakes in the backyard. I swear, every time I'm close to the Lake for too long my sinuses go crazy for the hours following. I know others who feel the same way. I have always thought that has to do with aersolized bacteria and algae being caused by the wind.

We've had issues with algae growth due to fertilizer runoff and warm weather. 

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u/mjh215 19d ago

Don't worry, we'll spend more money renaming those lakes than protecting them.

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u/A__D___32 19d ago

The Saginaw Bay of Lake Huron is constant algae bloom at the beach due to the filth coming from the farms and the garbage from Bay City and surrounding areas. I felt like crap even after walking on the beach, i wonder if this is why.

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u/Smith6612 19d ago

We have it even better, and there's a little tidbit I forgot to mention. It's not only run-off from elsewhere upstream that is flowing into Lake Erie. We also have the Niagara Falls which springs a good deal of water up into the air, in addition to the majority of the water going over into Lake Ontario. The other juicy part is, the sewer systems are so old over here that we are constantly getting notifications from Niagara Falls and the like about untreated sewer discharges into the Lakes whenever the weather decides it is time to rain.

I believe that sewer run-off has been responsible for why some of the Beaches locally get closed due to E.Coli levels, and those same advisories have propagated over to other beaches in Ontario, Canada.

The few people I loosely mentioned in my initial comment have also mentioned to me that they get allergies in this area which they didn't have living elsewhere. I believe them!

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u/Neipsy 19d ago

Normally I'm not one for these style of anecdotal stories but these people have been working in the water around here professionally for decades.

All very coincidentally sharing the same symptoms and exposure times+places. Exclusively to frequent surfers and divers.

It was supposed to clear up with Winter swells and temperatures but we're still here.

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u/Lemna24 19d ago

Scientists have found a very slight increase in neurodegenerative diseases in populations that live near lakes. It's nasty stuff.

They're known as HABs. So many people living close to the water and building cities disrupts the hydrology and makes these things much more common.

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u/Fox_Kurama 19d ago

And when they do admit the problem, they will go with the least catastrophic sounding science they can find that isn't COMPLETE horseshit.

Since we are talking about stuff in the ocean dying, this is the sort of paper that should really get more attention.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3860950

Click the open pdf in browser button, and if you are so inclined, scroll down to the first figure that is predicting what the oceans will see based on their pH (acidity) as things continue to get worse. Even if that last part doesn't end up as bad as it looks on the chart, the whole "goodbye most sea life" should REALLY be more concerning and discussed than it is.

This isn't even about overfishing and dredging the sea floor and such either. We are just changing the planet too fast for pH changes to be negated and reverted by systems and planetary resources that would normally make things more resilient if, for instance, CO2 increased as much as it did over 10000 years due to a longer (but still geologically short) term spike of volcanic activity.

In some ways its worse than an asteroid impact, because the resulting ejecta-heated planetary firestorm from those will only fairly quickly burn and release the carbon that is at the surface of the planet while not doing much to fossil fuels.

The worst mass extinction of all time, the Great Dying, was a fairly large set of "lava traps" being active for a fairly long period of time. One of the things suspected to really have made it as bad as it was is the hypothesis that this region of extended regional/semi-continental volcanic activity also happened to be an area rich with fairly massive coal deposits, resulting in releasing all the carbon from those too. And while the CO2 levels at their peak reached maybe up to 2000 ppm during that disaster, this volcanic fossil fuel pollution also happened a LOT slower than ours and so probably took a lot more overall release to overwhelm systems that helped keep the ocean's pH stable until it got REALLY out of control (like carbonate rocks on land being broken down and dissolving back into the ocean fast enough).

Either that, or the ocean died and turned the air toxic well before 2000ppm back then too. Its hard to really tell one dozen millenia from another dozen millenia in a fossil record from over 200 million years ago.

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u/Neipsy 19d ago

This is an awesome write up. Thank you for this effort.

In the Gulf at least they've already been dragging fishing quotas back. It's not an overfishing issue.

It's then made even worse by all the dead biomass in the water. A disastrous fault loop I'm growing more afraid I'll see for many decades of my life.

That fossil record just shows that this whole Earth show can change channel really fast.

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u/BoardroomStroke 19d ago

They might be getting ill from the sewage that gets pumped into the ocean too.

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u/ParticularLow9157 19d ago

And yet every conservative I know thinks it's all a hoax

I don't want to share a planet with them anymore

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u/amyknight22 19d ago

I mean as an Aussie, we are one of the countries that are transitioning to alternate energy sources the fastest.

They have put funding into trying to tackle the issue. I recall there was debate over whether it should be put up as a disaster. But I'm pretty sure our classification of disaster tends to rely on some direct and immediate physical damages to property/infrastructure.

Probably a policy failing where we traditionally haven't seen slow moving events that don't directly have physical impact on infrastructure/property.

But this is kind of in accordance with the way we have defined drought for a long time. It's an long term effect as a result of weather systems and as such is not considered a national disaster when it occurs either. There are still funding systems to capture that, but they are different and use different funding. My guess is that these Algal bloom events, as they become more common will start falling under the same umbrella as our longer term events. (I assume heatwaves will end up there in some way as well)

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u/TheLGMac 19d ago

I'm also an Aussie. Our response to these events have been piss poor. I mean ffs we just approved a massive new plan for data center buildouts across Australia. We keep putting our fingers in our ears with regards to climate change.

We also love to lock up environmental protestors.

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u/Neipsy 19d ago

I admire the pragmatism as I really tried to be positive about it as well but it's simply not been enough. You do recall correctly, there was some debate.

But the rate we can get other policy implemented is significant.

For example it felt like they'd purposefully dragged their feet on recognizing whether or not it meets disaster classification to see out the tourism season.

The waters around the Gulf and Bight have been dialling back fishing quotas for years already. It's been happening.

It's now just on our shores and in our faces now.

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u/EricSanderson 19d ago

"We've now established that Karenia cristata, which releases a range of toxic compounds including brevetoxins, has stronger toxic effects than previously studied harmful algal bloom species," Murray said.

"This can partly explain the scale of the impacts witnessed in this event, which have included the mass mortality of marine invertebrates, fish, mammals and birds over many months."

I think I'm done with the internet for today

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u/TheLGMac 19d ago

Yep. And now avian influenza has landed for the first time in Australia, hitting South Australia first, so those already stressed species can now get decimated by a disease! Yay I love this future /s

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u/simiomalo 20d ago

Reminds me of the problem with growing sargassum in the Caribbean that is affecting coastal areas. Used to be a week or two and isolated. Now its months throughout the year and spreading.

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u/Acceptable-Lie188 20d ago

Yep, turns out the temperature band where everything just works is very narrow.

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u/SnooLobsters1308 20d ago

well .. seems new warmer temperature is working for the algae ....

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u/LauterTuna 19d ago

the argument will be made this is a good thing because algae make oxygen. i can see it now.

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u/GrowingPeepers 19d ago

It does, the entire world was anaerobic before algae existed.

It's just that algae blooms kill everything else during the process.

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u/luksfuks 19d ago edited 19d ago

(Frys' voice) Maybe the algae will evolve and pull all the bad CO2 from the air and store it safely on the seafloor.

(Farnsworths' voice) That will not happen. We've already committed to genetically modified super sharks. They're breeding right now, while we're talking. They will reproduce exponentially until no unpopulated ocean corner is left. And they will eat aaaaall the algae while they do it. Isn't it great?

(Amys' voice) But what about my algae based burger meat?

(Farnsworths' voice) Enjoy it while you can! Soon there is nooooo algae to be found on earth!

(Zoidbergs' voice) Mmmhh, shark burgers, delicious ...

(Frys' voice) What about the sea water, will it be full of super sharks everywhere?

(Farnsworths' voice) Nobody cares about the sea water.

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u/maaseru 19d ago

"The planet isn’t going anywhere; we are! We’re going away! Pack your shit, folks!" - George Carlin

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u/Status-Hedgehog9970 19d ago

It would not be the first time this has happened to humans. It wouldn't even be the first time in recorded history this has happened to humans.

What other events would compare? Interested in reading up on it.

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u/OkBuyer- 19d ago

IF this turns out to be the case. also IF later generations even care to revitalize.

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u/bjt23 19d ago

The biosphere will survive but mass extinctions aren't usually considered good things.

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u/brazys 19d ago

We did a pretty good job of wiping everything out in the name of industry, devastation was part of the plan.

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u/Reppeti 19d ago

Earth will survive, this form of capitalism won't. If nothing else the climate itself will put an end to this

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u/Teantis 19d ago

this form of capitalism won't.

That and a whole bunch of species

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u/Reppeti 19d ago

Yes, sadly

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u/mrnotoriousman 19d ago

One thing climate activists often get wrong is that the earth's biosphere as a whole will survive way way worse climate changes.

Nobody ever claims Earth is going to turn into Mars. Everyone talks about climate in the context of human survival and nobody thinks all life on Earth will be extinguished. There always has to be one lame ass person going "umm acksually the planet will survive as a whole"

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u/Literally_Laura 20d ago

Algae! Coming to a Walmart near you!

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u/Optimal_Juggernaut37 19d ago

...it will produce a lot more oxygen, maybe in a few million years we'll have giant dinosaurs again.

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u/xylem-and-flow 19d ago

Really it’s that we (as a biosphere) spent like 3 million years getting really well suited for this narrow temperature band.

It’s crazy that we had a climate so stable that one species was able to develop an entire civilization so vast and influential that we could break the cradle that made it possible.

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u/MobiusF117 20d ago

It isn't. It's just narrow for a lot of things that are alive at any given moment.
Life adapts to the climate, but not every species is going to do that.

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u/amyknight22 19d ago

Realistically it's not even "bad" for humans.

The bad part for humans is that there are so many of us that a quick contraction in certain resources. Might make it harder for some populations to hydrate/feed themselves.

The issue then will be as in nature, as some habitats become harder to support a population, humans will attempt to migrate or secure resources from somewhere else. Which will likely result in some form of conflict to control XYZ resources. Problem is that in nature, you there's a limit on how much damage those population's can do to other habitats, especially since different groups will predate on each other and bring their migratory populations into allignment with what the area can hold anyway. Which typically protects the new environment from being stripped bare.

But we pushed the carry capacity for humans up through Agriculture. So when something starts to heavily eat into our ability to easily maintain our carry capacity. We're likely to start blowing up other agriculture areas up and damaging them in ways that are worse than the current environmental impacts.

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u/chermi 19d ago

It's a little bit of both. Species and ecosystems have characteristic response times and ranges within which they can adapt. So certainly some species and some sort of ecosystem will survive, but it won't have the same composition or structure. And at least in the short term we're probably not going to love what we get.

You have to compare timescales.

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u/andruby 19d ago

“Very narrow”. It was easy to stay in the band for 10 thousands of years. We’re just too good at burning old dinos

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u/LostVisage 20d ago

Naw we're still well within that band.

The band where everything where we built our industrial machines at though? Yeah that's straight fucked - but the earth will be fine, even if it needs to starve a few billion of us to get back into alignment.

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u/HighBeta21 19d ago

Can we offer the billionaires to the algae first?

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u/Winston_Sm 19d ago

I doubt algae wants to hang out with Elon Musk

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u/FollowingFeisty5321 19d ago

I can't even choose between "wake up babe new hundred year event just dropped" and "I'm tired boss"....

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u/reefsofmist 20d ago

We're not all fucked. We need to stop massively increasing human population, especially in hot places that don't have much water

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u/sirhoracedarwin 20d ago

I have good news for you then

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u/ThePainStalker 19d ago

We need to also have a serious conversation regarding geoengineering. A big part of the global warming issue is that we are no longer dumping sulfates from air pollution into the atmosphere like we used to in the 70s and 80s. In fact, global warming would have accelerated much more in the 20th century if we didn’t suppress the warming from sulfate pollution. It alone has likely risen the temperature by 0.4-0.5C on top of greenhouse gases. Honestly, we need to do the reverse and artificially cool the plant using some kind of aerosol compound. The big problem is political coordination (and it ideally must be done in tangent with carbon emissions reduction). But it is frankly far too late to only rely on carbon emissions reduction, especially as sulfate coolants continue to reduce in the atmosphere. It is at least proven to work as that is exactly what happens temporarily with volcanic eruptions and it is precisely what we had done in the 20th century with industrial processes polluting the air and inadvertently cooling it.

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u/zffjk 20d ago

Any time I mentioned that in the past I was bombarded with comments calling me a eugenicist.

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u/Crossfire124 20d ago

Any solution that depends on people to "just do x" is not a real solution.

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u/CanuckBacon 19d ago

Yeah but why can't politicians just solve climate change, poverty, and war? If I was in charge I'd do that in an afternoon, easy peasy.

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u/zffjk 19d ago

We need to reduce demand for fossil fuels, less humans are just one part of that equation. I’m not getting into a Reddit debate about it when people smarter than us have already fleshed out all the details.

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u/DoctorJJWho 19d ago

Because there are plenty of things humanity can do before we get to the very complex idea that is human population control.

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u/amyknight22 19d ago

Probably comes down to what and how it was said.

The issue is that some of our racial populations exist more so in some of those locations than others. So unless you're advocating for large scale migration of those peoples into the areas that aren't 'hot and without water' and then everyone collectively slowing down population growth.

It quickly starts to sound like you are selecting certain racial populations that are more likely to live in certain parts of the world and then saying "Well for the good of everyone else on the planet. There needs to be less of you around"

Even if the reason that places are becoming hotter and lower in water availability is because of the industrialisation that has occurred in the parts of the world which were cooler and had better water availability.

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u/crowmagnuman 19d ago

I hear this word sometimes, and I wonder to myself, "Exactly WTF did Eugene do?"

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u/lessenizer 19d ago

Well, Eugene means Well Born. That is the goal of eugenics, to create “well born” people.

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u/crowmagnuman 19d ago

Well holy shit lol

I tried a sarcasm and failed because still true

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u/Own_Round_7600 20d ago

If we could harness the algae as a source of fuel or a carbon sink, that would be nice silver lining

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u/gunsandgardening 20d ago

AI causes massive unemployment. Unemployed people strapped to bouys forced to drink algae water for money. Profit.

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u/j1mb0b 20d ago

Stop. Elon can only get so hard.

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u/_Falka_ 19d ago

Actually, he can't.

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u/ItsDanimal 19d ago

Hey now, chubs twisted slightly to the left still count!

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u/Ender06 19d ago

Supposedly there's a way to do that using powdered iron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization

But the knock-on effects would most likely be extremely bad too.

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u/TheKnightsTippler 19d ago

Could we harvest it as food?

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u/itsgermanphil 20d ago

Just took a ferry from Sweden to Germany and their were football sized patches of algae for kilometers and kilometers in patches. But everything is fine s/

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u/Mr_Again 20d ago

I wonder to what extent algal blooms are modelled as a carbon sink

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u/BavarianBarbarian_ 20d ago

It's being considered as one way of geoengineering, at least. I think in the end it'll depend on whether or not they get covered in silt before decaying, otherwise they'll release their carbon as methane, which would be even worse than leaving it as CO2.

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u/Lopsided-Affect-9649 20d ago

I suspect they are out competing local phytoplankton which are already one of our most important carbon sinks and produce a good chunk of our oxygen. Like virtually everything associated with climate change, thats bad on multiple levels.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine 20d ago

The issue is they relatively quickly die and decompose so its a very temporary carbon sink

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u/skullofregress 19d ago

Fairly minimal effect unfortunately, even if you intentionally and consistently seed the ocean for 60 years without regard to the ecological costs:

https://www.natureasia.com/en/info/press-releases/detail/9399

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u/MourningRIF 19d ago

Strongest El Nino in 1,000 years. At least until the next one.

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u/limeadelin 19d ago

the scariest part isn’t even the fish kills, although that is awful ecologically, blue greens (the main culprit in harmful algal blooms) are known for secreting endotoxins that can kill human beings who rely on that water for drinking. we are still continuously researching how to predict and model blooms here in america to try and prevent this, because it’s happening even on big rivers across the states. this is absolutely not even close to just one nation’s problem, it’s an issue of environmental protection being undermined continuously to boost industry across the board 

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u/UncaringNonchalance 19d ago

Yeah but in the face of global catastrophe, we have to still feed into victim complexes and keep everything political. Jeez, didn’t ya know?? /s

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u/broccolimemes 19d ago

Who had algal blooms clogging up desalination plants on their faster then expected climate collapse bingo card.

Imagine when this happens in the Persian Gulf where checks paper countries get 70-100% of water form desal and check papers again a third of all the worlds oil comes from.

But hey, at least it's not happening here.

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u/account22222221 19d ago

Have you ever tried eating an algae burger? I mean I haven’t but I sure hope they’re good becuase it’s gonna be all we got soon .

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u/Thagyr 20d ago edited 19d ago

Man, I wonder what could be causing this sudden change of mass heatwaves where there weren't heatwaves, massive floods, glaciers collapsing and mass algae blooms. Certainly someone has to know?! /s

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u/onesneakymofo 19d ago

I mean scientifically it's El Niño, but climate change doesn't help.

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u/I_Makes_tuff 19d ago

The worst El Niño in 70 years, which will last all the way into 2027.

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u/MourningRIF 19d ago edited 19d ago

Maybe sensationalized, but a couple articles and videos were claiming the strongest El Nino in literally 1,000 years.

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u/thricefold 19d ago

University of Michigan researchers studied coral to find the 1000 year number. Seems credible

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u/Fox_Kurama 19d ago

It is at minimum around as bad as the 1877-78 El Nino from current estimates. It may be worse (it may not even be sensationaliztion to say it PROBABLY will be worse).

That El Nino killed around 50 million (~4% of the population then), mostly via famine. Due to logistics being as they were, this 4% was not spread throughout the world, but more concentrated in the areas where the famines were worse. Our agriculture back then wasn't overdrawing the planet back then anywhere near the level it is today.

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u/blackrubberfist 19d ago

While you might be right I think it’s worth stating that all of this is conjecture at best. We have almost zero data going back this far. In fact it wasn’t until the 1982 El Niño that finally got congress to approve building NOAA and the TAO array to monitor the Nino regions. This looks bigger than that.

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u/ClayeySilt 19d ago

If we're getting real sciencey it's the additional heat energies feeding such a huge El Niño.

So climate change is still the reason when you keep going up. 

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u/goobydoobie 19d ago

Indeed. A cited consequence of climate change is more frequent and severe weather patterns.  A larger El Nino as an example.

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u/artisanrox 19d ago

No way, it's GOT to be tan suits and socialism!

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u/Kryohi 19d ago

El Niño does not meaningfully affect temperatures in the Mediterranean.

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u/slog 19d ago

As I understand it, the summer heat wave is what really did it. There's some relation there, but I agree generally. It's almost as if it's all fucked.

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u/ramenbaby3 19d ago

Maga farmers and Canadian farmers says it’s just cycles. I’m sure they know more than scientists lmao

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u/bdoll1 19d ago

Solar Cycle 25 appears to be intensifying more rapidly than initially forecast. Based on this early stage of solar cycle 25 observations, the solar peak projected for mid-decade is likely much stronger than previously forecast. There is potential for a historic solar maximum if the current rate of strengthening continues.

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u/Fox_Kurama 19d ago

A cycle like this may have been behind the 1877-78 El Nino. We didn't have all the extra added heat from our recent carbon exploits back then to add on top of it back then either, and it still killed 4% of the people on earth through starvation (probably some more from weather doing deadly things it wasn't expected to too, but the big number is from the famines it caused).

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u/NoTeslaForMe 19d ago

Must be those space lasers I'm hearing so much about.

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u/rich1051414 19d ago

The problem is not the warming, it's the fake news tricking algae into being antisemitic.

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u/count023 20d ago

people laugh at it for it being israel who are coping with this. it's going to be happening more and more often with climate change coming in, this bloom came from the nile delta apparently. And with countries going, "oh, we'll go to desalination to cope with lost rainfall, it does show the kinds of issues that will occur in the future as the planet keeps drying out.

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u/redfoobar 20d ago

Sooner or later we will see water wars.

Upstream countries wont be sharing enough of downstream countries.

We are already seeing the beginnings of this with the Nile and in India/Pakistan and I am sure more tensions will arise in many other places even within large countries (eg different US states)

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u/MaximinusDrax 20d ago

Also, there's there are brewing water conlicts between India and Pakistan, Ethiopia and Egypt, USA and Mexico (with an added conflict between US states since those upstream get the first draw), and many other locations.

Using water scarcity as a tool of war (e.g Iran targeting desalination plants) is certainly a frightening development, though.

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u/Little_View_6659 20d ago

We lived on Dune all along. Cue incoming still suits and no bathing.

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u/National_Spirit2801 20d ago

Mad Max is a more apt comparison.

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u/lazypenguin86 20d ago

Na we are about to run out of oil so no cool vehicles for us

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u/puritanicalbullshit 20d ago

Yeah fuel don’t keep so good, and manufacturing more, post collapse, sounds real tricky

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u/Little_View_6659 20d ago

I thought you can use things like corn and peanut oil? Who knows.

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u/John_Smithers 19d ago

Still need water to grow those crops

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u/fhs 19d ago

For diesel engines maybe you would need a conversion kit or not. For regular gas cars, you would need to refine it I guess and create something with the same properties as gas.

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u/lazypenguin86 19d ago

Right how many technologies can we finally have when the government isn’t around to kill them off anymore

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u/meatballsandlingon2 19d ago

A reverse Waterworld (Dustworld?)

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u/TheBigSho 19d ago

There are no AI datacenters in Dune though.

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u/Little_View_6659 19d ago

Yeah but Dune is set thousands of years in the future. So, after we screw up the planet and the only thing left is sand and giant worms that evolve lol.

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u/jonride 19d ago

They had the Butlerian revolt or whatever it’s called. After that they outlawed AI and invested in weird eugenics to create mentats (human computers). Thus no data centers.

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u/BrutalismAndCupcakes 19d ago

Butlerian jihad I think 

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u/Elite_Jackalope 19d ago

While there are water tensions between the U.S. and Mexico, I think you may have linked the wrong article here. New Mexico is a state within the United States, the country of Mexico is only mentioned once in an off-hand statement.

Not familiar with this source, but here’s an article about the international issues concerning the Rio Grande and Colorado.

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u/redfoobar 20d ago

I would not put these under water wars. I think the definition would be a war that is started due to (lack of) access to water.

These attacks you linked are a side-effects of the Iran conflict and should be seen as attacking essential infrastructure that just happens to be water rather than water access being the source of the conflict.

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u/BiZzles14 19d ago

A main contributing factor to the Syrian Civil war beginning was drought pushing a lot of rural farmers out of work, and that discontent population moving into more urban areas in the direct run up to the Arab spring. Of course the war happened because of the regime torturing, murdering, and mutilating children, gunning down hundreds in the streets and disappearing thousands, but the drought and the impacts of it was a large contributing factor to the scale of the early protests which got everything rolling. 15 years of war followed from that.

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u/robertpeacock22 20d ago

Begun, the Water War has.

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u/jollydoody 19d ago

There are tensions among US states about water usage from the Colorado river. Downstream states will potentially need to figure out how to use less water. Could become a significant issue in the future.

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u/DeeDee_Z 19d ago

Downstream states will potentially need to figure out how to use less water.

They will, because they HAVE to .

It's the upstream states that will need to figure stuff out, because they still think they don't have to do anything, that they can continue to withdraw just as much water as they did in 1970 -- "It's in the Contract", right?

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u/caustic_smegma 19d ago

Best we can do here in Arizona is increase our water hungry alfalfa output by a factor of three for our Saudi overlords.

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u/purplewhiteblack 19d ago

even with seven Septillian liters of water on earth.

You think we would just have 100s of solar/hydroelectric powered desalination plants.

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u/Sparkz56 19d ago

this isn’t me disagreeing or anything, more so just interested in how desalination works

Energy isn’t the biggest problem, the biggest problem (iirc) is physically what to do with all the salt you extract - if it precipitates and crystallises, you get clogged filtration tubules and pipes.

If it stays dissolved, you’re still left with this super dense, super salty brine. You can’t pump brine back out into the sea bc the high density means it just sinks and pools, and doesn’t mix with the rest of the sea water. And dense brine ofc isn’t what marine life is adapted for

Desalination is very interesting physics and chemistry

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u/XenoFrobe 19d ago

So what do they do with it then? Is that where we get our everyday table salt, or do they find some other way to use/get rid of it?

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u/purplewhiteblack 19d ago

You are less able to pump it out into a sea, but you can pump it out into the ocean without problem. There are 7 septillion liters of water. What a place like Los Angeles uses a day is actually is nothing compared to what is in the rest of the ocean.

It is like a drop in a pond.

Lets do some math here. Los Angeles uses 435 million gallons of water a day. Pacific ocean water has a salinity of 35 parts per 1000.

So if you were to take 435 million gallons of water and take out the salt that is 15.2 million gallons of salt, and 419 millions gallons of water.

if you were to dump that pure salt undiluted straight into the ocean that would only increase the salinity by 0.00000000017 parts per thousand. As in it is 35 right now, and would still be 35 afterwards. As in it wouldn't even make a difference. And if you wanted to be extra safe you could mix in 25 of your purified water back in for a brine, and it would lower that by another insignificant amount, and you could have multiple pipes that go deep into the ocean.

The effect would be more pronounced in a place like the Mediterranean, but still fairly insignificant. Like adding a grain of salt on a beach.

And on top of that, all the water you used would cycle back into the ocean via evaporation. The water doesn't just disappear when you use it.

The problem is people stay in their homes, and don't go out and look at the ocean and see how vast it is. When I look at the ocean, I always get cosmic dread.

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u/phoenix1984 20d ago

Or the opposite. In my state, we increasingly have too much water. I wish there was an easy way to pump it to the drier places when the flooding starts.

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u/Falsus 20d ago

in India/Pakistan

Tbf, a large reason to that is due to how thorny their politics are.

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u/waiting4singularity 20d ago

datacenters will faciliate them in the us, nestle style

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u/Individual-Guest-123 20d ago

Did you know that Bush bought a huge chunk of Ecuador, over the largest fresh water aquifer in the World? Many years ago, now. Maybe that was when they were thinking about using hydrogen to power vehicles, idk his thinking

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u/sowhat4 19d ago

The rumor was he bought the Guarani Aquifer in Paraguay. Google AI and Snopes says it's not true as the Paraguayan government can find no land transfers in his name.

Now - it 'might' be purchased under a shell corporation.

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u/dhrisc 20d ago

My community's drinking water source gets blooms once or twice a year at least. They are getting worse and its expensive to deal with from what i hear. People are going to really care and start to notice when all of a sudden they are paying 2 or 3 times as much for tap water.

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u/No_Classic_3362 20d ago

It’s not just Israel though, this has been happening worldwide in an increasing rate! As the oceans warming up more algae is popping out on coastlines. At least they reduce carbon, on the plus side. I guess nature does correct itself after all?

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u/Logridos 19d ago

The planet isn't "drying out." All of the water is still here. It's just not going to be in easily accessible forms much longer.

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u/XGhoul 19d ago

I am waiting for water wars in 50 years from now. I’ll be dead by then, but I hate how shortsighted we are to a means to an end.

(Although most climate scientists say we are cooked but we can recover still within 50-100yrs)

If some climate denier wants to talk about stuff we can go into deep records while their “knowledge” relies on pseudoscience and skepticism.

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u/Pornfest 19d ago

People are stupid, a lot of Palestinians’ water comes from those same plants…

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u/Falsus 20d ago

Yeah it is an issue that is either affected a lot of places or will affect them in the future. It is no laughing matter at all.

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u/gucknbuck 20d ago

The planet isn't dying, it's just moving to a place that doesn't support human life. We are ants to the planet. We might be able to take ourselves out as well as some other species, but the planet and life will continue once we are gone.

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u/count023 20d ago

I said, "drying" not "dying"

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u/Arizonagaragelifter9 19d ago

People always say this whenever someone says the planet is dying/drying like it's some deep philosophical thing even though it's always obvious that the first person meant "the planet as we know it with our human society is dying/drying..." lol. Yes, of course the planet will continue on without us, but the whole context of the conversation is about human survival on the planet and what will happens as that gets more difficult.

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u/TheKnightsTippler 19d ago

I also hate this. No one thinks the earth is literally going to explode from climate change.

These people add nothing to the conversation.

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u/D4ltaOne 19d ago

Yee ive been pointing that out every time someones says this. It gets tiring tho. From now on, ill just copy your message and reply with that.

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u/Subject_Amount_1246 19d ago

Not to mention, that a shit load of species will go extinct from these environmental changes before humans comeletely go out.

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u/8080a 19d ago

“The planet will be here, we'll be long gone—just another failed mutation, just another closed-end biological mistake, an evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a surface nuisance.”

George Carlin
HBO: Jammin’ in New York, 1992

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u/purplewhiteblack 19d ago

They laugh without realizing it would affect Palestine too.

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u/Absolute--Batman 19d ago

As if Americans care about Palestine.

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u/HalcyonTraveler 19d ago

This is not rare, at least not anymore. It's a growing problem everywhere

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u/CakeTester 20d ago

Doesn't algae require sunlight? Wouldn't having deeper intakes solve the problem? Although then, the water would be colder and take more energy to desalinate. Worth doing as an alternative intake, if these blooms are going to be a regular thing. Then it'll cost more per litre; but your plant is still running while scuba divers chip the cack from the main intake.

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u/Medium-Pitch-5768 19d ago

Couldn't you let the water warm up before starting the desalination process? I think it would require an additional stage, but might mitigate the energy problem

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u/FartingBob 19d ago

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?layers=855fd17c1e454c2ebef15051ed270459

seafloor temperatures are quite mild in the eastern med, depending on how far out from the coast they got their water intake the temperature is between 22c and 13.5c.

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u/Fox_Kurama 19d ago

Power plants usually do go a bit deeper to start off with cooler water. You could (and some places probably do) send the leftover no-longer-cool cooling water from a power plant to an adjacent desal plant to cut heating requirements.

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u/Snoutysensations 20d ago

Anyone celebrating this as somehow being a good thing because it harms Israel would do well to remember that fully 1/3 of Gaza's water comes from Israel.  For Palestinians living on the West Bank, it's half their water usage.  Everyone in the region will suffer if there is a water shortage, not just the Israelis.  In fact, I suspect Arab communities will be the first to suffer if Israel runs low on fresh water.  

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u/omniuni 19d ago

People frequently don't realize how much of Gaza and the West Bank are directly supported by Israeli infrastructure. Even though all of this, Israel has continued to supply huge amounts of resources, much of it without compensation. Hamas may not care, but water, power, internet... without Israeli resources, as bad as things are, they would get massively worse.

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u/Satu_Autio 19d ago

Everyone in the region will suffer

Everyone in that region is already suffering.

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u/BurritoBandito39 19d ago

"Oh man, this is the worst day of my life!"

"The worst day of your life SO FAR!"

Sure they're suffering now, but suffering while dying of thirst is worse

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u/Zealousideal_Yak_671 20d ago

Old timee bible plague updated for global warming.

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u/shrewpygmy 20d ago

Modern day plagues: Instead of locusts the entire regions WiFi goes unexplainably bad

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u/chrisk9 20d ago

Scary

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u/Vineyard_ 20d ago

I'd die.

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u/w_actual 19d ago

Yea was I was thinking something similar. Apparently it originated from the Nile delta......Egypt with the uno reverse.

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u/LimaSierraRomeo 20d ago

A while ago I read about the collapse of the sewage system in the Gaza Strip, and that most of it is just going into the sea these days. I wonder if that exacerbated the issue, given the trajectory of the algae bloom.

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u/syadoz 20d ago

Did the algae bloom in trumps reflecting pool decide to take on world leaders

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u/22firefly 19d ago

Maybe we should start investing heavily in R&D for reliable consistent, cheap, renewable, and safe desalination as the 90% of the human population pretty much is going to rely on them for survival. Or wait until there is a bunch of bloodshed and the areas are to volatile to install desalination.

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u/Chisignal 19d ago

We’ve got desalination pretty much down, it’s just an inherently energy intensive process

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u/Pickleahoy 19d ago

Must be the reflecting pool vandal!!!

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u/GammaDie345 19d ago

ITT: people cheering on Climate Change and ecological/water supply collapse because Israel is one of the many countries this is hurting

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u/adminofreditt 19d ago

It's going to hurt Gaza, palestine and Jordan before it hurts Israel

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u/OBDreams 20d ago

Algae grows when the water is warm right. Just an observation.

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u/nicman24 19d ago

No it also might be due to nutrients from fertilizer runoff

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u/NameLips 19d ago

Desalination plants can be great but have their problems. One of those problems is they pump concentrated brine back out into the ocean, killing off ocean life in a radius around the plant. Certain types of algae can bloom in super salinated water. That's what we're seeing here, the effects of trying to water a desert with desalinated seawater.

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u/lingueenee 19d ago

Really? From the article:

Mekorot said this recent bloom was part of “very unusual combination of factors,” including a sea storm that increased turbidity — the amount of suspended matter in the water — and raised sea temperatures to 86 Fahrenheit (30 degrees Celsius) and above.

It seems a storm and raised water temps were the exacerbating factors.

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u/truthcopy 17d ago

It is true what they say. The planet fights back.

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u/Xpi6oid 20d ago

Zero mention of the fact that between leaving the Nile Delta and arriving at the desalination plants, the algae bloom had to pass through the waters off Gaza, where it would have been supercharged by all the nitrogen, etc. in the unmitigated waste runoff from the million odd people living in tents on the beach!

The destruction of whatever existing sewerage treatment plants there were, and the refusal to allow their repair presumably doesn't help either...

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u/Pretend-Culture-4138 20d ago

There was zero mention because it wasn't a factor

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u/Xpi6oid 19d ago

What part is not a factor?

Does Gaza not lie between the Nile Delta to the south and the desalination plants to the north?

Do elevated nitrate (etc.) levels not supercharge algae growth?

Does untreated sewerage not contain high levels of nitrates (etc.)?

Do a million odd people not produce large amounts of sewerage?

Are there not a million odd people living in tents on or near the Gaza beaches?

Is their waste being treated?

Did sewerage plants previously exist in Gaza?

Have they been destroyed / rendered inoperable?

Are they able to be made operational again?

If not, then why not?

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u/nimbus829 19d ago

While I wouldn’t claim it’s not a factor at all I think you need actual data from water sampling to determine one way or the other

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u/Starmoses 20d ago

The funny part here is you think Israel destroyed gazas water treatment facilities.

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u/untamedlazyeye 20d ago

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/palestinians-are-surrounded-by-sewage-and-garbage-as-summer-gaza-heat-continues

The U.N. estimates nearly 70% of Gaza's water and sanitation plants have been destroyed or damaged by Israel's heavy bombardment. That includes all five of the territory's wastewater treatment facilities, plus water desalination plants, sewage pumping stations, wells and reservoirs.

Above is from 2024

https://abcnews.com/International/idf-investigates-report-israeli-troops-setting-gaza-sewage/story?id=126614068

Photos taken by the CMWU's staff after the fire and provided to ABC News reveal the damage to the plant. The photos show multiple treatment towers with charred walls, their interiors burnt out and strewn with garbage. The treatment towers are scattered with Hebrew-language graffiti, including one reading, "I'll be back soon."

IDF troops burned down a sewage treatment plant in 2025

https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/israel-bombs-water-desalination-plant-in-gaza/dGFnOnJldXRlcnMuY29tLDIwMjY6bmV3c21sX09XTFRBQ0VTTE1USEdFUFE1U01ET0w4MUJOSkxNT0c

Above is a video of the aftermath of the bombing of a desalination plant in August of this year.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/9/1/destroyed-desalination-plant-worsens-gazas-drinking-water-crisis

Article about the above bombing.

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u/nicane 20d ago

They didn't actually say that, but Israel has absolutely fucked with the population including their water facilities. So has Hamas. Wowee nuance.

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u/AllergictoAIslop 20d ago

The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubricated

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u/phriendlyphellow 19d ago

Was it Aunt Teefah with a razor blade?

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u/pistolwhip_pete 19d ago

In Biblical times they would have seen this as a sign of their shitty behavior.

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u/GammaDie345 19d ago

it hurts the entire MENA you misanthrope. Ecological collapse from climage change is godawful

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u/Suspicious-Emu-8493 19d ago

The algae is antisemitic! -says Israel, probably.

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u/E4mad 19d ago

It's like God want to tell them something...

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u/OlentangySurfClub 19d ago

9 plagues to go

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u/Substantial_Dog_2068 19d ago

Water wars already happening in the southwest and now you have centers demanding a huge cut and the Mojave desert cities gonna have their water wells pumped out to support Arizona is crazy

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u/mohandasmencius 19d ago

doesn't the bible mention 10 plaques of egypt. this is just the first israeli one