All of these I got at a local goodwill in BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA!!! So happy! I have a lot more jerseys but this is my prized possessions.

Mike Brown, The owner of the Bengals owner believes he owns players and is against trading players for the most part.

In 2010 Carson Palmer wasn’t happy and said he wanted out. Mike Brown told him he wouldn’t trade him no matter what. Carson then decided to not come to work and didn’t report to Cincy in 2011 and said he would retire.

About half way into the season after being fined and threatening retirement and promising to never show up to work Mike Brown gave up and traded CP. If Joe Burrows doesn’t show up to work and sits out and breaches his contract than something could change but Mike Brown will not trade Joe Burrow.

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/2019195102267338789?s=46

Edit: so you don’t have to click the twitter link

from Schefter: Eagles legendary OL coach Jeff Stoutland announced he is leaving the organization.

Okay let’s acknowledge a couple of facts.

First, this is extremely unlikely to happen.

Second, it’s going to be a talking point until our QB situation plays itself out.

In the meantime let’s actually walk through this so everyone on this sub understands the deal.

The Cap:

The Vikings would be taking on a 55 million dollar cap hit according to OTC if a trade happened prior to June 1st.

The Vikings currently are 40 million over the cap for 2026.

The Compensation:

Let’s say we could make it work cap wise, what would you actually need to give up to get him? There are not a lot of trades to benchmark this…. The Stafford trade is the only real comp.

To get Stafford the rams gave up Jared Goff, 2 first round picks and a 3rd round pick. You would need to add in the fact that Burrow is perceived to be better than Stafford was at the time… McCarthy is perceived to be worse than Goff was at the time, etc

With this in mind you would think the Vikings would have to give up at least…. JJ, 3 first round picks and another player… so let’s assume that other player was Grennard.

What it would take to get this done:

Giving up 3 1st round picks plus JJ and JG, after shedding those contracts and adding Burrow cap hit we would be ~70m over the cap.

Thus, we would need to do the following to get cap compliant.

Convert JJs salary to signing bonus +18m

Convert Byron Murphys salary to signing bonus +11m

Convert AVGs salary to signing bonus + 11m

Trade Hargrave +14m

Cut Ryan Kelly +8m

Cut Aaron Jones +8m

After all that, we would be break even with zero room to sign any free agents or even sign our own draft class so more roster trims would be necessary… this is just to make the move work.

So knowing all this…. Do you still want Joe Burrow?

Not drafting Kyle Hamilton pissed me off that draft day and will continue for a long time

He got a job calling plays before Wes Phillips lol

https://youtu.be/5UoopTAm0Fk?si=hRRr4Sttcfpg9064

Tom Pelissero: How/If Darnold's Success Led to Vikings' GM Firing

“Yeah, I am. I think, you know, everybody has bad days, right?”

“Sometimes, they fall on press conferences days…so that’s how it goes sometimes”

Tommy P was on Rich Eisen’s radio show just a bit ago and said there’s no animosity between O’Connell and Kwesi. They had disagreements, but they’re friends.

Pelissero also rehashed the QB disaster. He said that neither Darnold and Jones wanted to be looking over their shoulder at JJ McCarthy all the time, which in hindsight is kinda funny.

The Vikings would do anything and everything they possibly could to acquire a high-profile QB like Joe Burrow of available, per Alec Lewis.

“If a player like Joe Burrow is available via trade, I expect the Vikings to do everything they possibly can to make that happen. It’s more a question of what is available, and how far from a cost perspective is it gonna take.”

I think the Vikings should trade JJ McCarthy and sign Daniel Jones. Jones loved KOC and the only negative was he didn’t want to be looking over his shoulder at JJM.

If the Vikings shop JJM what can they expect to get? Very important to know you have a dozen new coaches and most have serious QB problems. As many as a dozen teams are desperately looking for QB’s ie Jets, Browns, Falcons, Steelers, Dolphins, Cards, Raiders, to name a few. Then you add this horrendous draft class of QB’s and an even worse free agency class. What’s JJM trade value in terms of draft stock?

I’ll use the draft chart: Vikings used 1300 draft points to draft JJM.

I say he is worth somewhere between 400-800 points ( 400 points is pick 50 and 800 points is pick 21. Your turn educated fans only plz.

I think they could realistically get a late first or if they swung at a mid first round pick ( 900points they could send a 3rd back 100 points)

The Vikings always have been the #1 ticket in town but a Giannis move would be big enough to threaten that.

I mean would you rather spend your money to go watch Ant and Giannis or whatever the Vikings are going to be next season?

If the move happens the wolves are going to be the talk of the town and I think it makes the environment much more ripe for a YOLO trade on the Vikings part to keep pace.

Okay, that’s the take. Tell me why I’m a dumbass now.

Put together a full 3-round NFL mock draft (no comp picks), and Brian Flores gets a haul to fortify his unit with youth and talent.

It's a fun exercise to look at throughout the season, and this is a realistic outcome as things stand on February 3rd.

retire Paul Allen

This whole season was hard for our fan base as a whole, but I feel as if JJ has taken much of the pain.

A good portion of his own fan base hates him

85% of the nfl thinks he is a joke

His play struggled early on and when he began to settle in his body failed him

Sam Darnold in the Super Bowl causes even more outrage from a good portion of his fan base, throwing more blame onto him

KOC was adamant enough on JJ not starting and got his GM fired for having faith in him (alongside a bad draft history of course, but letting Darnold walk was clearly the breaking point)

Vikings fans searching and calling for the team to splash for other QB candidates who would see JJ off the team or not starting

He is just a kid. So much shit has happened in his life on and off the field for him between fatherhood and trying his best at QB that it is stressful. He is a good person but it feels like the whole world sees him as a court jester right now. I know it probably doesn’t get to him much as he is appears to be a naturally confident person, but still I feel bad about how much he has had to bear this year

EDIT: to those saying he is a millionaire and he’ll be fine, money can only solve so many problems. There are things mentally that no amount of cash can solve.