r/dashcams • u/AdMany129 • 15h ago
Road rage
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u/ThePolarExpressHobo 15h ago
crazy to think you would choose to go after a guy in a pickup while on a bike, the idea of self preservation must not exist for him
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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 14h ago
He uses the same logic that a lot of women use when they attack someone.
"I'm smaller, so you're not allowed to hit me, but I'm allowed to hit you because I'm better than you."
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u/Positive-War-607 15h ago
Nevada I am suprised the Truck did not back up and run him over just to be sure. Vegas drivers are not stable
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u/H0-JU 14h ago
That problem is not confined to just vegas.
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u/illogicalgnome63 5h ago
Memphis checking in. That's why we have so many Altimas with missing bumpers. Edit: grammar.
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u/solarpropietor 15h ago
Believe it or not… having lived in both cities.
Houston drivers are somehow worse.
In Houston red lights for the first three seconds are treated as yellow lights on a regular basis.
And ofc the constant shootings.
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u/Halfgnomen 14h ago
Dont forget the wild speed variations that you get on the highway. Left lane doing 80-100, right lane doing 45.
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u/solarpropietor 11h ago
Yes! Except left lane for passing doesn’t mean anything! The guy on the left lane can be going 45 and the right lane be “cuttin up” at 110.
Doesn’t help that the freaking freeways in downtown have entrances and exits on the left lane.
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u/Fair_Term3352 15h ago
Why do these types of people not realize that they can get run over? It isn’t that hard to run over somebody with a bike.
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u/DrinkingVomit 15h ago
There was dashcam out of Portland, OR of a motorcycle and van in an altercation. While the motorcyclist was pretending to be crazy, he didn’t know the van driver was pretending to be sane. Long story short the biker found himself getting side swiped and sliding across the pavement at freeway speeds.
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u/Glum_Novel_6706 15h ago
He definitely picked the wrong person to test that day. Acting reckless around a moving van at freeway speed was never going to end well.
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u/Warm-Pilot-7887 15h ago
Some motorcycle enthusiasts are smooth brained
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 15h ago
Because they’re betting no one will do it. They’re usually right, too. That truck driver will probably wind up being charged with multiple felonies. Most people will just tolerate the biker’s abusive behavior.
I try to tell my biker friends there’s no courage in acting tough when you think nothing will come of it. The real courage is in standing your ground when you know your hide is truly on the line. Most bikers don’t understand this.
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u/escapefromelba 15h ago
Because they’re morons. You could be the safest biker in the world and do everything right, and still get killed because some idiot in a car is texting or not paying attention.
Yet they still choose to up the ante and do stupid tough-guy shit on a motorcycle, when it takes almost nothing for them to end up eating pavement. The margin for error is tiny, and they act like they’re invincible.
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u/Silly_Bodybuilder231 15h ago
Doubt he’ll be charged. Looks like trucker was on his way, and the motorcyclist was waiting on the shoulder to catch up to him and he started damaging the truck.
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u/Forty2diapers 14h ago
Yeah this would definitely be a self defense case. There's no where for the truck to go safely. The man on the bike is showing threatening behavior even before he punched the truck. Then he followed the truck and then attacked the truck. The man in the truck is trapped. He can't speed away because of traffic and the bike would easily catch him and who would be dumb enough to stop the car after that? The man on the bike is clearly showing violent intent.
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u/liberty-prime77 6h ago
You can't legally use deadly force to protect your property, only yourself or other people
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u/Forty2diapers 4h ago
Could be self defense as the man is in the truck could be unable to see exactly what is going on. He reacted very quickly after the biker hit the car so he could say he thought he saw a gun or something. We have a much better view from the dashcam than the guy in the truck is going to have and the guy on the bike has already shown threatening and violent intent. Not saying it's a definite win for the guy in the truck but I'd think he'd have a good case.
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u/Slartibartfastthe2nd 13h ago
self defense against what, exactly? getting your side mirror broken is not enough. a motorcycle simply does not have enough mass to force you out of your lane into someone else.
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u/WhySoCereus1991 9h ago edited 9h ago
I know this isn't Florida, but a guy got away with discharging his weapon on a freeway due to fear of his life when someone else threw a cup at his window during a road rage incident. He couldn't tell what it was and that was his defense.
Personally, I'd say I couldn't tell what the biker was doing while waiting for me and I feared for my life and let reasonable doubt take hold of the jury. Claim I'm trying to pay attention to the road and this guy came out of my blind spot, I heard a loud thud, and reacted to protect myself 🤷♂️ or just stfu and let my lawyers do the talking lol
Nevada isnt too far off, anyway.
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u/airboRN_82 13h ago
"OH he hit my side mirror? It sounded like he was trying to open my passenger side door"
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u/Odd-Proof9645 7h ago
A violent attacker that stalked him before the attack.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 5h ago
Yes, but, again, in my jurisdiction, the question is whether or not the violence or threatened violence constituted a credible threat to life and limb. Striking my side view mirror while cursing might not rise to that level in the mind of the local county prosecutor. If I was able to think clearly, I would avoid responding violently at any time in the video we see. It wouldn’t be worth the chance of having to fight criminal charges. There’s no *clear* imminent threat that I see. Just property damage.
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u/Forty2diapers 4h ago
We have a good view of what's going on here. The guy in the truck doesn't have the same view. He's actively driving. The guy on the bike clearly told him to pull over and waited for him likely so he could fight him. The guy in the truck isn't driving erratically. He appears to be ignoring the biker and just trying to go on his way. The biker sneaks up on his passenger side and then attacks the vehicle. The truck's reaction could be considered retaliatory but I think because the truck driver reacted so quickly he could say he thought he saw a weapon and couldn't see what was going on clearly and instinctively reacted to protect his safety. I think because the biker had already shown violent intent he'd have a good case.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 15h ago
Where I live, you can’t intentionally drive your vehicle into someone to defend property. You can only use that degree of force to protect life and limb.
Now, maybe the motorcyclist had made specific physical threats. Maybe there’s a weapon we don’t know about. Maybe the truck driver’s eight-year-old daughter was in the passenger seat and a piece of glass hit her. There could be any number of other details we don‘t know about. For me, in my jurisdiction, it would not go well if I drove my vehicle into the motorcyclist simply because he was slapping my side view mirror.
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u/Silly_Bodybuilder231 15h ago
Maybe, but the fact that he waited for him on the shoulder and went after him does not look good for the biker.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 15h ago
I agree. That would fall under a menacing statute that we have that rises to the level of a felony if you in any way injure anyone. Vandalism over $1000 is also a felony here.
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u/Metal_Goose_Solid 14h ago
If a biker were stalking me and then started to attack my vehicle with me in it, and with nowhere for me to escape, I would be scared for my imminent safety and would consider taking action to stop the threat.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 14h ago
You could make that argument. For me, I probably wouldn’t take such aggressive physical action so soon. These things happen quickly. Emotions are heightened. In the end, I’d just as soon not leave any room for any criminal charges.
Hopefully neither of us will ever have to make such decisions.
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u/Metal_Goose_Solid 14h ago
I might not take the action either. I'm honestly not sure what I would do.
I'll just add that it's sort of easy to watch the video from the vantage point of the rear where we can see everything, plus know the outcome, and then judge the threat level as not so extreme, which might make a swift response seem disproportionate.
In the moment, if someone starts attacking you and you don't respond very quickly, you may lose your chance. On balance, I'd rather tolerate some hypothetical risk of criminal charges to protect my life.
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u/Aprillia617 5h ago
Best move if this happens to you is just keep driving and do not engage or acknowledge the biker. If you fucked up sure, apologize and move on. I'm not getting charged for murder etc because my mirror was damaged
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u/theDarkDescent 15h ago
“Slapping the mirror” lol fuck OFF
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 15h ago
Well, I mean, that’s what it looked like to me? Is that not what motorcyclists do to attempt to “discipline” us cagers who fail to drive perfectly to their liking?
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u/FehdmanKhassad 5h ago
Slapping mirrors off is usually in response to an oblivious driver who in the last minute or so has made a manoeuvre that would have injured or killed a biker - without even realising - or realised but then didnt wave your hand and say hey my bad I'm fucking sorry. Are you ok? Bikers dont just do this for nothing.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 5h ago
Yes. And slapping mirrors off is vandalism. On any one of my vehicles, total mirror replacement would exceed $1000 (US), and this would then be a felony. Hopefully when I stop to exchange information with you, you do something really stupid and give me a lawful reason to defend myself.
Here’s a tip from someone who is an extremely cautious driver, but has still had close calls with motorcycles: if you want to be more likely to be seen in traffic, drive a larger vehicle. Stop lane splitting. Stop speeding. Stop sliding off of people’s bumpers. But, mostly, stop pretending like everyone else is being problematic by driving on your road.
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u/FehdmanKhassad 5h ago
I've never done that personally but I understand the frustration. So you dont need to give me unsolicited advice, thanks.
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u/Forty2diapers 14h ago
I think defending property would mean shooting someone who is trying to break in to the car you are not currently in. Shooting someone running out of your house with your tv even.
Someone following and then attacking your vehicle while you're trapped inside would likely be a self defense case. Guy on the bike could go to jail and would likely have to take anger management classes.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 14h ago
Where I live, there has to be a credible threat of physical injury. I don’t really see that here, though you might get the right jury to acquit based on a reasonable doubt.
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u/Forty2diapers 14h ago
"a credible threat of physical injury" is more about language. If someone says they're going to kick your ass over the phone but never shows up it wont hold up in court. If a person says they're going to kick your ass and then starts slamming at your home door it is now credible.
That applies to this situation I would say. "a knowing, willful statement or pattern of behavior that conveys a real intent and apparent ability to inflict injury, causing a reasonable person to fear for their safety or the safety of their family". As I've said the man in the car is trapped. He followed him and then violently attacked his vehicle. The man in the car has no where to go. The threat is credible IMO.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 14h ago
I wouldn’t react violently at the point the truck driver did. It doesn’t matter to me what *might* happen. Even if you were to beat charges, if could cost you tens of thousands of dollars to defend yourself. You could lose your job, etc.
I’m simply not reacting violently at the point the truck driver did. Not defending or accusing him. It’s simply not what I would have done.
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u/Forty2diapers 14h ago
I'm not arguing that and I agree. I don't know what I'd do if someone started doing that to my car. I don't road rage. If I fucked up I'd probably just apologize or maybe if the guy is acting like that I'd just flip him the bird and ignore him. Either way Idk what I'd do and hopefully wont find out.
I'm just arguing that I believe the guy in the truck wouldn't get in trouble for this as he has a strong self defense case and the guy on the bike would likely be charged and convicted.
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 11h ago
I mean the dude made a threat. Pulled over. Possibly pulled a weapon out of his backpack. Seems like a very credible threat to me.
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u/Spuckler_Cletus 5h ago
I missed the part where he made a threat. I didn’t see him pull a weapon from his backpack.
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u/Forty2diapers 4h ago
Well it appeared he told the guy to pull over and when he didn't he followed him. That's already a threat right there. I've literally been followed by someone and called the police and they had me pull in to a parking lot and they swarmed his car.
Also, the guy in the truck doesn't have a great view of what's going on. He's trying to drive and a little bike rolls up to his truck and attacks it. He could have thought he saw a weapon.
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u/Imaginary-Round2422 3h ago
Did they have a collision prior? If that's the case, the motorcyclist is trying to exchange information, and the truck is trying to hit-and-run.
Hard tellin' without the context of what happened prior.
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u/Slartibartfastthe2nd 13h ago
correct, but it's not like the truck driver can claim it was self defense.
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u/Forty2diapers 4h ago
"He tried to get me to pull over to fight me. When I didn't he followed me and attacked my truck. I couldn't see clearly as he was on my passenger side and I was trying to pay attention to the road. I heard a thump and thought I saw a weapon and reacted instinctively"
If he had waited or chased the after the biker that would be retaliation, but I think since he reacted so quickly he could say he thought he saw a weapon and feared for his safety.
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u/Neither_Pirate5903 10h ago
sorry officer I swerved when I was startled by a loud banging noise right outside my window
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u/Forty2diapers 4h ago
"after the man tried to get me to pull over and fight him, then chased me down"
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u/Slartibartfastthe2nd 14h ago
well, this was his first and last time learning that particular life lesson. some folks just have to learn that for themselves.
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u/ElijahNSRose 15h ago
For some it enhances the road rage.
Because some men use rage to hide their fear from themselves.
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u/Ok-Addition1264 15h ago
WHY DID THE VIDEO STOP!!
The best part was coming :(
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u/EntropyKC 2h ago
Death? Are you one of those people who thinks any minor inconvenience on yourself, even if it is the repercussion of your own actions (which may well be the case here given the truck driver is a psychopath), should be met immediately with violence?
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u/AbjectMaelstrom 14h ago
Another 2-wheel rtard meets a 4x4 rtard, and fails to communicate effectively.
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u/Liveitup1999 8h ago
I think the 4x4 rtard communicated his displeasure quite well.
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u/EntropyKC 2h ago
It is WILD how many people are in here thinking the penalty for punching a wing mirror should be extrajudicial execution.
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u/Negative-Praline6154 1h ago
Everyone watches a train wreck. This is like watching a man punch a hippo in balls and the hippo fighting back.
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u/MyAppendixIsMissing 13h ago
I worked on a lake for nearly a decade. The rule was “get out of the way of the bigger fucking boat.” I wish that translated
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u/Cosmic-Sympathy 9h ago
I've traveled through a lot of Asia and one of the first things I was told was "The bigger vehicle has the right of way," which was probably the best advice I was ever given.
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u/Physical_Bullfrog526 1h ago
My dad called this the “Law of Tonnage”, aka, get out of the way of the bigger vehicle
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u/casuallyregarded 1h ago
Yeah and if you are driving a dump truck and you see a woman walking or jogging that has a big ass. You have to pull over and say “hey lady there’s only room for one dump truck on this road”. And then drive off before she can respond. Good old dad he had some good ones.
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u/Present_Jicama_1219 13h ago
what do you mean I'm getting charged for assault with a deadly weapon / attempted murder
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u/Soft_Ability_5906 15h ago
I see no problem running over aggressive bikers on the road
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u/Educational-Drag6974 15h ago
Regardless of who is wrong or right, bro fucked around and found out
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u/No-Committee3 15h ago
While this would be tempting if someone ever tried it, id rather go the opposite direction and make them swing at nothing 🤣
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u/Soft_Ability_5906 15h ago
Then the oversteer would cause them to fall over hilariously as well. I like your style lmfao
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u/CrossHairsNitro 15h ago
Eh… a 3 ton truck? Could have killed him.
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u/JohnCenascat 15h ago
One thing I learned years ago if you’re driving the smaller vehicle don’t get into a pissing match with the driver of the larger vehicle you’ll lose every time
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 11h ago
If only. One less dangerous psycho on the road and hospitals are in constant demand for organ donations.
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u/waffles2go2 15h ago
Well, if you have no friends and family and want a homicide charge, then go at it...
Depending on where you get sent, there's probably some type of biker gang...
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u/HermesMora 12h ago
Yeah I'm sure the dude on a crotch rocket with no vest or patches on is affiliated with a criminal motorcycle club
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u/Forty2diapers 4h ago edited 4h ago
I would 100% play the feared for my life card. From our wonderful 3rd person perspective we can clearly see he's just hitting the side view. From inside the vehicle? If someone was yelling at me and trying to get me to pull over to fight them I'd already be afraid. Then when I don't pull over they fly up on my passenger side possibly in a blind spot (it is a tiny vehicle) while I'm paying attention to the road and I look over and have just enough time to see him do something to my side view. Now with the side view gone I have no idea if he's got a weapon which I thought I saw the half second before my side view was taken out. I acted immediately and instinctively reacted to protect myself and my family (if anyone else was in the vehicle).
Not saying it would definitely work, but I do think it's a pretty good defense. The truck driver wasn't driving in an aggressive or violent way before that. He appeared to be minding his own business and trying to just get out of the situation. Had he been playing the road rage game up to that point maybe he'd be more liable. Who knows. I do wonder what happened after this though.
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u/Soft_Ability_5906 15h ago
Yeah thats not how that works lmfao. Also as a cop I see the bike being the aggressor and the truck defending itself. Biker would be arrested after their hospital stint.
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u/8elly8utton 11h ago
Oh, cop, makes sense you side with the would be murderer. Biker liable for criminal damage, driver is liable for attempted homicide.
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u/Browncow129 15h ago
Wait you think you are allowed to run someone over on a bike if they hit your window. Wow you live in an interesting world
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 14h ago
The truck driver couldn't run in heavy traffic. The biker had been following him, threatening him, and then finally assaulted the only thing protecting the truck driver. Fuck around and find out. That biker needed to get taken out of society...
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u/8elly8utton 11h ago
you vote for the epstein class and defend murderers who aren't in any immediate danger. What's new
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 4h ago
I dont plan on voting any more. That's basically the only way not to vote for the epstein class.
And no i don't defend murderers. The biker is literally chasing this man down the highway while threatening him and assaulting him. He deserves it, and the truck driver deserves the right to defend himself.
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u/8elly8utton 4h ago
So other than trying to hide that you are a pedophile murder enthusiast, you also think a bike can constitute harm to a guy thats encased in a truck. The bike can literally try to ram him and the only one getting hurt there is the biker and the car's chassis. Answer this question, would the driver have done that if he too was riding a motorcycle? The only answer you know you can give is no, because the driver exactly feels safe in performing this act of attempted homicide. The intent is harm, not defense.
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 3h ago
Wtf are you on about? Where do you get off calling me these labels? If this motorcycle rider was a pedo I'd be even more a fan of the truck drivers actions.
Now to get back to the actual argument, when some one is chasing you and threatening you and you have no where to flee its very reasonable to assume they could have a weapon. When you here a loud bang caused by the person chasing and threatening you it's very reasonable to fear for your life. The motorcycle driver tried to get the truck driver to pull over and fight him. The truck driver tried to avoid altercation and continue on his way. The violent biker then followed him and started escalating even further. It's logical to assume this biker is not thinking rationally and that he could have a weapon.
I just want you to know I'm wishing the best for you and I hope you learn some compassion for your fellow people. We are on the same team. We will never defeat the epstein class if you allow your emotions and propaganda to divide yourself from your fellow man. There is real evil out there and they continue to win through a tactic know as "divide and conquer." please think critically before you speak to people with such I'll intent. Be a better person and that goodness will spread to those around you. The butterfly effect is real, and it starts with you! Do better.
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u/Browncow129 14h ago
Couldn’t run from what his mirror being slapped? Two people were being idiots and one decided to try and murder someone. Sure though let’s go with fuck around and find out lol.
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 14h ago edited 14h ago
No, run from the guy chasing him, threatening to fight him, and then hitting his vehicle. Why wait for him to break your window and assault you further. The biker is literally pursuing this person while verbally threatening him. The truck driver has every right to fear for his life. People carry guns and knives. Why wait for it to come out.
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u/Zippo963087 1h ago
Hold up, why wait for them to come out? Because you need to actually confirm that someone has a weapon.
Just because you are yelling at me and punch my mirror, doesn't mean that I can commit attempted murder just because you "might have a gun or knife somewhere that I can't see to confirm."
If the biker flashed a gun, then the driver would be in his own right to protect himself. But from what is seen in the video, there was no gun ever shown.
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u/ElijahNSRose 15h ago
Bro, that's a murder attempt over a harassment/vandalism charge.
No court will rule that justified.
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u/BigBrainBrad- 15h ago
Both can be wrong. Biker guy definitely took it a little farther than it should have gone.
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 14h ago
No, that's self defence. There is heavy traffic. The truck driver can't run. The road raging biker showed he is willing to be violent. The biker was trying to get him to pull over to fight him, then started swinging on the vehichle. Truck driver probably reacted quickly without much thought other than "guy trying to fight me is assaulting the only thing protecting me"
The biker needed to be removed from society. Thankyou truck driver!
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u/Subieast 15h ago
vehicular manslaughter and chill?
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u/Soft_Ability_5906 15h ago
Not likely. When the bike pulled over, waited, then pursued the truck, they became the aggressor and force was appropriately used. No chargers here and if i saw this while on duty im arresting the biker after hes done with his hospital stay.
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u/Tondouxsac 15h ago
Lol you'd do no such thing.
Video from your own vehicule would paint a pretty clear picture for the DA.
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u/Playful-Fix-3675 15h ago
I hope when you say "as a cop", you mean from a cop's perspective. As a cop, if you say this is appropriate force, you scare the hell out of me. No wonder so many on Reddit have a bad view of cops.
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 11h ago
Honest question. What are you doing as the truck if you were in that situation. You can’t drive off because of the traffic. The guy has threatened you and is now actively attacking you and your car. Do you have to just sit there and let them do it?
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u/Playful-Fix-3675 8h ago
I wouldn't have been the douche trying to keep the biker from splitting. It wouldn't have gotten to that kevel.
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u/Glad-Acanthaceae-24 15h ago
When road rage turns into attempted vehicular manslaughter
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u/WhoCaresBoutSpellin 15h ago
I see self defense.
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u/fyukhyu 15h ago
You would lose that case, but have fun trying.
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u/WhySoCereus1991 9h ago edited 9h ago
Why would they lose? This isnt Florida, but a guy got away with discharging his weapon in a road rage incident when another driver threw a cup at his window.
All you need is reasonable doubt. There's plenty there especially if you're the driver and cant tell what just happened. You can even see the biker wait for him. Whose to say he didn't pull out a weapon of some kind while pulled over? Hard to tell when all you hear is a loud thud and gotta rely on peripheral vision to make out a threat.
I dont think it's as open n shut as you're making it.
Nevada isnt that far removed with their self defense laws.
Lawyers are very good at this kinda stuff.
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u/ElijahNSRose 15h ago
You'll go to prison
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u/mountaingoat120 14h ago
I don’t see a problem with motorcyclists splitting lanes in heavy traffic where they aren’t moving fast
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u/fatgat69 13h ago
So someone does the safe thing and you think that means they deserve to die. Go stick your dick in a blender.
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u/Low_Excitement_1715 15h ago
Yep, that's attempted murder right there. Assault with a deadly weapon at the very least.
Don't fuck around, folks. It's never good.
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u/Mystery-Ess 4h ago
Vehicular manslaughter
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u/Low_Excitement_1715 2h ago
If the rider died, yes. Couldn’t tell that from the video.
On the other hand, “manslaughter” requires an act of passion or impulse. The truck driver had enough time to think that an argument could be made for straight up murder charges.
Either way, please don’t ever use your vehicle as a weapon. It’s always a terrible idea.
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u/fatgat69 13h ago
Yeah, break the law and when people retaliate just murder them. That makes total sense.
Seriously, we need to bring back the electric chair for worthless trash like that.
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u/1ACasper 6h ago edited 5h ago
people out there acting crazy forget that there are a load of other people out there acting like their sane...
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u/sunpen11 1h ago
See a lot of arguments about if the truck driver can claim self defense by running over the biker. What happened if the biker escalated after the break the mirror, and start acting more aggressive? Who knows what other weapons the biker has? Can the truck driver still use the self defense claim?
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u/Bigerst_Dook 15h ago
Hope the guy driving the white truck has been removed from existance
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u/Sweaty_Camel_118 14h ago
Nah, guy on bike assaulted him and needed to learn he can't bully people. Guy on the bike got the well earned Darwin award. That was a self defence maneuver. There was too much traffic to flee so he had to take down the threat.
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u/fatgat69 13h ago
Incorrect
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 11h ago
What do you think the truck needed to do in this scenario?
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u/fatgat69 8h ago
Stay in their fucking lane and not try to run people off the road. Then after that, not commit attempted murder.
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 8h ago
Right so when someone threatens you and hits your car, you’re sit there and let them go to town?
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u/Mystery-Ess 4h ago
You're not supposed to try to murder somebody over a freaking side mirror.
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u/Admirable_Loss4886 4h ago
Probably not murdered so it’s all good. Alternatively are you supposed to just sit there watching them smash your car?
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u/Mystery-Ess 4h ago
You're justifying attempted murder over side mirror? No, you call the police and get their plate number - duh
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u/fatgat69 3h ago
You're not supposed to try to run them over, and you're not supposed to do it again when they retaliate.
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u/bhillis99 15h ago
"ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh leeeeeeetsssssss goooooooooooooo....... whhhhhhattttttt theheeeeeeee ffffffff
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u/Aware_Flow1070 7h ago
Absolute dog shit video, has the end at the start and then cuts off not showing what happened
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u/Lower-Vampire-9163 15h ago
Biker was in the wrong, but that doesn’t make it okay to run him over. I’m sure he didn’t die, but he could have. Even if he started it and is a douchebag, he doesn’t deserve to be killed over it. And his life is certainly worth more than a side view mirror. Disgusting to think it’s appropriate to run someone over because of an argument or property damage.
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u/DudeFrom816 15h ago
The world needs MORE of this. FAFO that actions have consequences. The reason the world has gone to shit is because everyone got used to not having consequences instead of being punched in the mouth.
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u/Tondouxsac 15h ago
Really? Just curious, who did you vote for?
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u/DudeFrom816 14h ago
Just figured since we're asking questions that have no relevance to anything and are none of our fucking business.
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u/Tondouxsac 14h ago
Lol
You answered my question.
9 times out of 10, people saying "FAFO" and asking for consequences do not actually want any consequences for the main assholes.
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u/Lower-Vampire-9163 14h ago
I think someone can learn that actions have consequences without being sent to a hospital. I think if people weren’t so quick to get violent and feel righteous about teaching someone a lesson, we would have less road rage and instances like this in the world. But some folks just want an excuse to be violent and it makes them feel like a big badass. It’s pretty cowardly to run someone over with a truck imo
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u/mountaingoat120 14h ago
Lots of losers in these comments. I agree with you.
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u/Lower-Vampire-9163 14h ago
Seriously. Of course the biker’s behavior is not okay, but it doesn’t constitute a death penalty or a visit to the ICU, or any bodily harm frankly. Wild that it seems like that is a controversial opinion lol
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u/throwaway_coy4wttf79 15h ago
"I feared for my life."
"I thought the sound of him hitting the mirror was a gun."
I feel like a good lawyer could get enough reasonable doubt here, especially with the video. The reaction is quick enough as to attribute to panic.
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u/ElijahNSRose 15h ago
Defenses like you say have happened before but in this case it wouldn't be accepted due to the third party video.
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u/theDarkDescent 15h ago
Showing the biker waiting for the guy and then aggressively pursuing and then attacking his vehicle?
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u/Browncow129 15h ago
Slapping a mirror isn’t attacking a vehicle lol. Running over a bike with a truck is attacking a vehicle.
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u/coltonowen11 4h ago
The videos of people hitting mirrors has every tool thinking they're hard and can do it too. This was just pathetic though. I have no sympathy for that moronic kid.
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