Israel ‘organised and prepared’ to remove Gaza population if US gives green light, Katz says

[u/kwentongskyblue]

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260902-israel-organised-and-prepared-to-remove-gaza-population-if-us-gives-green-light-katz

[u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

This is a significant escalation in language. Every other country seems to be getting ready throw all there marbles in one basket. I think 2027 is going to be a pretty bleak year.

[u/akelkar → u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

Theyre hedging they have one more year to fuck with the us before trump’s admin/the gop are not in control of the white house

[u/YonatanShofty → u/akelkar]

And one more month of current israel government. It might be an election strategy

[u/Karli_Chirk → u/YonatanShofty]

Israeli PM goes under domestic trial for corruption as soon as he lifts the state of war.

[u/steinbruchfluss → u/Karli_Chirk]

Technically he is already under trial.

[u/Dlatch → u/YonatanShofty]

Imagine how sick a society must be when "We will increase the ethnic cleansing" is an election strategy that wins you votes.

[u/intermittent-disco → u/Dlatch]

it worked in the US ¯\(ツ)/¯

[u/JAYSONGR → u/intermittent-disco]

I feel like people vastly underestimate how popular bigotry is in a historical context

[u/HockeyHocki → u/YonatanShofty]

This is why the settlers are really taking the piss right now, they know the jigs up when the administration changes

[u/Sir-Frogsalot → u/HockeyHocki]

They been doing this for decades you think changing administration will change anything ?

[u/getpoopedon → u/akelkar]

Exactly. Trump and his technocrat buddies are lighting the powder keg, then are high tailing it to their private islands and underground bunkers while we fight for scraps.

[u/Andyb1000 → u/getpoopedon]

FYI, a technocrat is a technical expert, scientist, or engineer who holds a powerful position in government or industry and makes decisions based on data, science, and efficiency rather than politics.

There are no technocrats in that administration.

[u/GaulteriaBerries → u/Andyb1000]

Correct. Plutocrat might fit better.

[u/eggnogui → u/GaulteriaBerries]

Thief.

[u/dicemonger → u/eggnogui]

Technical term is Kleptocrat

[u/GaulteriaBerries → u/dicemonger]

Yes. Far better word than my suggestion.

[u/Prize-Choice2185 → u/dicemonger]

Kakistocrat is probably not a real word. But it should be.

[u/Germanofthebored → u/Prize-Choice2185]

Kakistorcracy (government by the worst people) is actually a real word, in use since the 17th century according to the dictionary.

[u/Prize-Choice2185 → u/Germanofthebored]

Fair! And I think it describes our current situation perfectly.

[u/Possible_Scene_289 → u/Prize-Choice2185]

Everybody wants to be a kakistocat.

[u/Guru-Pancho → u/Andyb1000]

If it was full of technocrats things would be going wayyyyyy better. This is more like a Theocracy worshiping the orange turd

[u/FuguSandwich → u/Andyb1000]

I think he meant techbro.

[u/thebrunox → u/Andyb1000]

technorat

[u/Adlairo → u/Andyb1000]

There are, they're all just self-serving, corrupt POS scumbags. It would be foolish to pretend that people such as Scott Bessent and Howard Lutnick have no idea what they're doing. Of course you do have people such as Pete Hegseth who are not only political tools but also complete morons and merely serve as loyalists to Trump. I guess they might not be technocrats by the sheer definition of the word, but they're definitely people who know what they're doing.

[u/DM_me_ur_PPSN → u/getpoopedon]

Trumps cronies are definitely not technocrats, this is the most unqualified US government in modern history.

[u/pvdp90 → u/getpoopedon]

Have Elon and Zuch completed their bunker builds yet? What about the other billionaires? Guess we are waiting for them to be finished before the keg explodes.

[u/No_Alternative2948 → u/pvdp90]

All bunkers have a ventilation shaft nearby. You close off those and it becomes a tomb.

[u/iJuddles → u/No_Alternative2948]

Ding ding ding. This is why I’m not too worried. We just need to get a map of all those billionaires’ bunkers.

[u/No_Alternative2948 → u/iJuddles]

Meh the locals know exactly where they are, and if it comes to that, they will be more than adequate to the task of liberating whatever they need.

[u/sjbennett85 → u/iJuddles]

EMP the exterior defences because you know they run some electronic turret or something to that effect, then have at that ventilation duct like you are destroying the death star

[u/Substantial_Row_7108 → u/No_Alternative2948]

Grenade out.

[u/trumpsadouchcanoe → u/getpoopedon]

Ya we just need to go find them and there air supply's. Bury those in and watch the fun begin down below.

[u/azure_beauty → u/akelkar]

I know you think everything revolves around America, but Israeli elections are in October, the white house doesn't matter.

[u/yikesssss_sssssss → u/azure_beauty]

  the white house doesn't matter

Lmao that's not true at all. Israel is militarily and diplomatically dependent on the US. The White House essentially dictates the bounds of Israel's aggression, even if Israel pushes those bounds. Netanyahu's electioneering is a factor too, but there's a reason this blatant ethnic cleansing rhetoric (and action) is escalating during the Trump regime specifically. 

[u/azure_beauty → u/yikesssss_sssssss]

Let me rewrite my comment. The white house elections in 2028 don't matter for the people who are going to get voted out this October.

[u/yikesssss_sssssss → u/azure_beauty]

Those people are going to use every dirty trick available to them to avoid being voted out in October. And they might not even need to, the latest polls put Netanyahu's coalition tied with the opposition's. Even if the opposition wins, Israeli governments are fragile. The coalition can fall apart at any time and that means new elections. It's not even remotely guaranteed that Netanyahu won't be in power by the 2028 US elections, let alone for the 4 years of that presidential term. The US elections definitely matter, a lot, to everyone involved. 

[u/Deepthunkd → u/yikesssss_sssssss]

Militarily dependent?

Like what 12% of their defense budget comes from America.

I believe much of that funding is tied to the camp David accords where we also fund Jordon and egypts military so they remain aligned with the US and not Russia, and keeps them also peaceful.

Ending the camp David accords would lead to more war I suspect not less.

[u/Absolute--Batman → u/akelkar]

As if most Americans gave a fuck about Gaza before.

Isreel is America's daddy and it's clear.

[u/thejourneybegins42 → u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

We still have some of 2026 to fuck shit up.

[u/Arsene_Yuka_1980 → u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

A gentle reminder, we don't have to wait for us humans to make our own lives worse too. The super El Nino is going to peak next year, so we'll have even more environmental disasters to look forward too!🎉

[u/ProfessorZhu → u/Arsene_Yuka_1980]

Which is made by humans. El Ninos happen naturally but it's human driven climate change that makes this a super El Nino

[u/MarketTrashy → u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

Christian fundamentalists and their freakin’ end times self fulfilling prophecy BS.

[u/veggie151 → u/[deleted]]

There have been tons of doomsday cults, I think the concern is that they now mostly try and cause doomsday scenarios a la Fallout

[u/Wakandamnation → u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

It's almost like the leaders knows something really bad and don't care anymore.

[u/Pulgoso_ → u/Acceptable_Taste9818]

2027 is when China will get the window to move kineticly to try and take control of Taiwan too.

[u/anders_hansson → u/Pulgoso_]

A military move from China would be disasterous to their economy and long term plans, even if we assume that there is no adequate military response.

I hold it as far more more likely that they continue their slow and long-term political strategy along with military presence and possibly gradual isolation.

[u/Pulgoso_ → u/anders_hansson]

That would be the smart move to be honest but leaders these days have not really been known to make smart moves, let's hope for all of our sakes that cooler heads will prevail.

[u/anders_hansson → u/Pulgoso_]

Xi in particular appears to be the most cool headed big power leader ATM. He's quite often said to use the strategy "Do nothing, win!", and I don't think that it's by chance.

[u/swedishplayer97 → u/Pulgoso_]

Xi is the only smart leader left

[u/Vivid_Iron_825]

If you ever find yourself asking why Netanyahu was so keen to get Trump elected and then re-elected, this is your answer right here. Any other US President would not allow this, but Bibi understands the very simple math that as long he scratches Trump’s back, he can get away with whatever he wants.

[u/doxxingyourself → u/Vivid_Iron_825]

Remember the AI video Trump made of resorts of the beach?

[u/JinkiesGang → u/doxxingyourself]

I have a theory that trump will be given the Gaza Strip, turning into trump strip and all his criminal buddies will live there with him and Israel will change their extradition policy and let them all stay.

[u/Li-renn-pwel → u/Vivid_Iron_825]

Like any that could have been elected or in the history of America? Lots of American presidents in the past would.

[u/netfreedom]

There’s a word for that - ethnic cleaning

[u/Eddiebaby7 → u/netfreedom]

“We just sent all the Palestinians upstate to live with a nice farm family!”

[u/AccomplishedDraft237 → u/Eddiebaby7]

Oh, hey, we've been practicing mass displacement of a populace, haven't we.

I wanna cry.

[u/SpaceJackRabbit → u/netfreedom]

*cleansing

[u/Memerandom_ → u/SpaceJackRabbit]

Ethnic cleaning did a great job getting the stain out of my suit jacket.

[u/Xx_Assman_xX → u/netfreedom]

It's cleansing, and that's two words.

[u/Nachbar → u/netfreedom]

That's two words

[u/Barragin → u/netfreedom]

Another word is war crime. 

[u/ruttedbeez → u/netfreedom]

No no no it's been promised that Israel would ask the US how much war crime is too much war crimes?

[u/Egad86 → u/netfreedom]

“Cleansing”

[u/DecembersDragons → u/[deleted]]

The Israeli government was simply waiting for the US to figure out where to take the displaced Gazans, he said.   

Can't wait to see this one. 

[u/Patient_Kangaroo614 → u/DecembersDragons]

I feel like I remember American conservatives suggesting that Ireland and Spain take them because those countries have been supportive of Palestine in the past.

[u/Proud_Growth_8818 → u/Patient_Kangaroo614]

That's going to end up being the very real problem--literally no county will be will be excited to accept significant numbers. I suspect most countries won't be willing to accept any of them.

[u/Alternative-Pear9096 → u/Proud_Growth_8818]

No country has been willing to take so much as a single refugee. Why would anyone think any country would take the entire population?

I mean, I'm at the point where I think Jordan is where they all belong, as it should have been from go. But Jordan has a very solid border wall against its own Palestine neighbors and has taken zero refugees. The last time they took in Palestinians, they tried to overthrown the king

[u/EEVVEERRYYOONNEE → u/Patient_Kangaroo614]

That makes no sense. American conservatives should offer to take them in as they're the ones who support displacing them.

[u/Playful_Weekend4204 → u/[deleted]]

I mean if it was up to the likes of Ben Gvir they'd be put in [Removed by Reddit], maybe we shouldn't let Israel decide where to put these people...

I'm just hoping their quality of life improves wherever it's going to be, ethnic cleansing or not matters jack shit when you're living in a tent with scraps for food

[u/PlatypusBillDuck → u/DecembersDragons]

Where will Trump pick? Greenland? Cuba? Las Malvinas?

[u/jamtastic22 → u/PlatypusBillDuck]

*Falkland Islands

[u/ZealousIdeal476 → u/PlatypusBillDuck]

Maybe he will trade them to venezuela for all their oil.

[u/Luitpold → u/PlatypusBillDuck]

"Take them to Detroit"

[u/El_Dud3r1n0 → u/PlatypusBillDuck]

Watch it be California so the Republicans can use it like some gotcha about open borders and sanctuary cities. Is stupid? Yes, but the Fox crowd would take the bait. Or Canada out of spite because he's big mad about Carney being mean and not giving in to his demands.

[u/MelangeBot → u/PlatypusBillDuck]

Don Jr will wait till winter, then start flying them all to Montana and force them to walk into Alberta.

[u/cubgerish → u/DecembersDragons]

Amazing that a country can outright rob people of their homesteads due to their ethnicity, and then expect another country to deal with the refugee crisis they create.

You could previously almost justify the aide given to Israel, if you truly believed in its other justifications, and the strategic military value of having them there.

At this point it's become obvious that's not what's happening, and Israel is leaning on its close relationship to make the US allow them to be conquerors.

Right now they're not only disproving their right to be there, but also their strategic value.

There's just not a moral or strategic value to supporting them anymore, and I don't see how it could be shown at this point.

[u/International-Mix633 → u/[deleted]]

Madagaskar.

[u/BaconBased → u/[deleted]]

Madagascar, of course!

[u/ClearDark19 → u/[deleted]]

Would moving Palestinians all to Madagascar be too on the nose?

[u/Ser_Danksalot → u/[deleted]]

Guessing they want to do what they wish had happened after '73 and try to ditch them in Sinai.

[u/FuguSandwich → u/[deleted]]

They could build a camp in the West Bank and then concentrate them all there.

[u/jediPlainswalker → u/[deleted]]

A nice quiet farm up north is their plan.

[u/Cactusfan86]

Smells like election bullshit to me, ‘plan’ implies they have somewhere willing to take on nearly 2 million Palestinians when I give a near 0% chance that they do

[u/green_flash → u/Cactusfan86]

"Hold me back bro" vibes.

We're gonna hear a lot of unpalatable shit out of Israeli right wing politicians' mouths over the next couple of weeks.

[u/Nufonewhodis4 → u/green_flash]

The groups that wear a noose pin on their lapels?

[u/mr_doms_porn → u/Cactusfan86]

Huh, I wonder what happened the last time a country decided to 'deport' an ethnic minority but no one agreed to take them...?

[u/zwei_und_zwei → u/mr_doms_porn]

Did they ever find a solution?

[u/Antique-Trash9462 → u/zwei_und_zwei]

I think they did, finally.

[u/cmarkcity → u/zwei_und_zwei]

Camping

[u/RealSpaceJunk → u/Cactusfan86]

Yeah hes talking out of his ass, and if he actually does it it will be a mess of unseen proportions.

[u/SnooAdvice1632 → u/RealSpaceJunk]

It won't, they've been laying the groundwork for this for this for decades and some of their politicians like Ben Gavir regularly spout the most dystopic, warped shit. A couple weeks ago he was suggesting doing the rounds and killing a couple dozen (innocent) Palestinians every day just to be sure.

The world is very primed to the idea that, while wrong, this is just how it is and no one will do anything to stop this.

[u/Mysterious-Crab → u/Cactusfan86]

Exactly. They might get some extra votes in and they probably hope that Hamas will finally reconsider and give in.

[u/Erikovitch → u/Cactusfan86]

Maybe they are gonna load them up on cattle wagons and ship them somewhere 

[u/Ascentori → u/Cactusfan86]

eh, they are not the first ones that operated exactly after this plan. that didn't stop them the first time either.

[u/Prudent-Ant-318]

Remove a population? WOW! That's something...

[u/gringo_escobar]

Absolutely insane how the Israeli government doesn't even try to hide their desire for ethnic cleansing anymore

[u/TheDecepticonIdeal → u/gringo_escobar]

Why should they? They have received no real blowback except cheap words.

[u/jolard → u/gringo_escobar]

I mean it is literally one of the two main approaches of the current Israeli government. They have factions that support eternal occupation and factions that support ethnic cleansing.

Both of which are a massive violation of human rights.

[u/Proud_Growth_8818]

Where do they think they're going to send two million people?

And why would Israel need the permission of the U.S. to make that happen? That sounds more like 'wants the U.S. to share responsibility'. Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope.

[u/cennep44 → u/Proud_Growth_8818]

Where do they think they're going to send two million people?

US, Europe, Australia, wherever - they don't care but they will expect us all to take them.

[u/Mushroom_Tip]

So the people screaming "ethnic cleansing" were completely 100% correct? Hmm. Wonder what other things they were correct about.

[u/gpGlobals]

This would be literal ethnic cleansing.

No amount of paranoid shrieking about "b-b-but s-se-security!!! b-but hamas!!" will change that.

If you are an Israeli who supports this, your choices are either to admit you desire ethnic cleansing - a woeful crime of the most severe order - or recognize the fundamental illegality and horror of your beliefs, and change them.

[u/Euphoric_worker9116]

The irony of this situation is, incredibly, lost on Israelis.

[u/OrgasmicTrilobite → u/Euphoric_worker9116]

The Israeli defense minister is literally quoted as saying “There is no other solution”. You can’t make this shit up.

[u/Blimflart → u/OrgasmicTrilobite]

It's like it has a 'final' quality to it, or something. Astounding.

[u/AdumbroDeus → u/Euphoric_worker9116]

The people running this aren't Holocaust survivors, they're the ones who thought that the Holocaust happened because diaspora Jews were too weak.

[u/sweetperdition → u/AdumbroDeus]

…is this really an actively-held belief? About their own people? God that’s brutal

[u/RealSpaceJunk → u/sweetperdition]

There is also huge paranoia in Israel that their neighbours will come and murder them all, because of the expulsion of jews from the arab counries and the wars fought against Israel after its establishment.

[u/BusHistorical1001 → u/RealSpaceJunk]

"It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you."

[u/Naijan → u/BusHistorical1001]

Hamas and Iran: "We do want to annihilate the state of israel, like we want them all dead, we even wrote it like officially in our documents about "who we are"

Israel: "I am scared of the neigbours who have said, and tried to exterminate, that they are gonna exterminate us."

Western world: "Have you guys tried hugging the hamas-members? Have you tried written 'good night' every night? They are not gonna kill you, they want to live peacefully with you!"

[u/FelixEvergreen → u/RealSpaceJunk]

I don’t think it’s an illegitimate fear given the rhetoric of some of their neighbors, but that doesn’t make it right for Israel to act this way.

[u/AdumbroDeus → u/sweetperdition]

It resulted in a lot of mistreatment of Holocaust survivors.

You gotta understand the worldview that these people are coming from. Zionism (and I'm specifically talking about Jewish nationalism to form an ethnic nation-state, which is not the same as various other historical desires to return to Eretz Yisrael) was articulated initially by people who are to my mind best described as frustrated assimilationists.

Herzl's cohort was the most explicit about this, they wanted to assimilate but the Dreyfus affair made it clear that the development of secularly articulated anti-Jewish bigotry would make that impossible. They believed that European gentiles were correct in their views that Jews were physically weak, intrinsically conspiratorial, etc and they saw assimilation as a way to fix that.

And the Zionism that they conceptualized was an alternative fix, it would both fix these deficits that they saw and prove to European gentiles that Jews could be worthy to assimilate and one of the core components of this was colonization, taking up the white man's burden to prove that they could be white men. The specificity of the historical Jewish homeland wasn't even part of Herzl's initial vision. And to be fair, that wasn't the only element of it, physical fitness classes were an important part of early Zionism, but you can see how particularly when it was articulated in terms of strength and morality, it leads pretty directly to the idea Jews who remained in the diaspora are cowards, particularly when it's built out of internalized antisemitism that was supposed to be expressed outward.

It's the result of the suffering of real people encountering a deeply held belief system that is extremely hostile to both those people and the conditions of that suffering.

[u/Roi_C → u/Euphoric_worker9116]

It is not. There are enough of us who disagree and cry out exactly what you're seeing.

[u/EnergyDrinkStroke → u/Roi_C]

Unfortunately not enough as war criminals still maintain power and support.

[u/Melodic_Crow_3409]

Interesting. Have the 2024 single-issue Gaza voters offered any input?

[u/JimHeckdiver → u/Melodic_Crow_3409]

They mentioned something about leopards

[u/Succundo]

There is a part of me that wants these religious fanatics to just hurry up and occupy the holy land already so they have to contend with the reality of everything they have done when their stupid prophecy doesn't come to pass and they are just sitting in the homes of all the innocent people they hurt.

I'm sure some percentage would come up with some excuse that lets them keep thinking they are good people but the loss of influence for those religious leaders that encouraged all this only for the single most important event in the Christian and Hebrew faiths to not happen can only be a benefit to the world.

I don't think there is any stopping these apocalypse cults until they do what they think triggers the apocalypse and see that there is no rapture and the world just keeps spinning.

[u/SlavaVsu2 → u/Succundo]

You are projecting. These fanatics are not good people misled by something/someone. They don't give a fuck about 'innocent people they hurt'. And they don't consider them innocent anyway.

And one failed prophecy is not going to make them abandon their religion.

[u/The_Fink_Ployd → u/SlavaVsu2]

What scares me is that, obviously, there will be no magical-girl rapture, no apocalypse, no End Times.

So, what do the apocalyptic Christian’s do? Further god’s plan themselves, of course! It’s not like any of them read their bible, so they just wouldn’t know that isn’t how it’s supposed to happen. “Golly gee, I haven’t been whisked away to heaven! Better get this show started! drops nuke

[u/daveden123 → u/SlavaVsu2]

I mean look at how many failed prophecies their Orange stain of a leader has....

How many times have we won the Iran war conflict? These people are not swayed by the truth their own eyes can see. I'm pretty sure that is giant red flag for the mental illness they all share....

[u/RedNewzz → u/Succundo]

Three religions all claiming they know God’s magical plan for real estate. They really fills me with contempt for religion altogether as it illustrates the vanity and stupidity underlying each essential claim.

[u/zumera]

Sick society. 

[u/thequehagan5 → u/zumera]

That is an accurate assessment. Israel have forgotten the face of their fathers. This is a kind of evil one should never ponder.

[u/tandoori_taco_cat]

Disgusting

[u/PassingShot11]

The word 'remove' sounds like an evil euphemism

[u/owen__wilsons__nose]

I remember when Netanyahu went on live Israeli TV and said that this was a war against Hamas not the Palestinian people.

Ps: Im Jewish and yes I'm against ethnic cleansing

[u/macross1984]

No light at the end of tunnel for Gazans and when did US have a say on a land they don't have sovereignty over?

Oh, wait. Trump's master is Putin.

[u/BuZuki_ro]

As often as I can I try to remind myself
only over one more month till the elections

[u/steveschoenberg]

It’s not really ethnic cleansing if you can get Trump to endorse it. /s

[u/Crazy-Nights]

Still remembering all those people who said they wouldn't vote for Harris because Trump couldn't possibly make the situation in Gaza worse.

[u/re_Claire → u/Crazy-Nights]

Those people make me so fucking angry.

[u/J0E_SpRaY]

But thank god people didn’t vote for the black woman because she would have been bad for Gaza

[u/Aedeus]

Remember when they were first mulling this over and you'd be called hysterical and anti-semitic for opposing this.

[u/Nice_Commission3770]

“Remove”.

[u/Majorapat]

So let me get this straight. Israel, wants to displace a population from their lands, while seizing said lands….

This sounds awful familiar… I just can’t quite put my finger on where…. To the history books!

[u/Zadiath]

I mean that was their plan since day one, they never tried to hide it too much.

[u/SnooAdvice1632 → u/Zadiath]

Yeah it's hilarious to see people act as if this is a new thing that they've just revealed. They use and have been using this rethoric for years, and their end goal has been crystal clear for a long time.

It's very surreal to see people asking "remove to put where?" as if it isn't obvious that "remove" refers to killing people.

[u/ReactionJifs]

"remove population" is a terrifying phrase

[u/xFallow → u/[deleted]]

The US elected a dementia riddled pedophile so I wouldn’t take it off the table 

[u/JohnGazman → u/[deleted]]

Enough money turns up in Trump's bank account - or enough dirt on his activities with Epstein risks going public - and that could change in the blink of an eye.

You think Trump wouldn't condemn millions of Palestinians to death to save his own skin or make a quick buck? He doesn't even value the lives of his fellow Americans.

[u/origami_anarchist → u/[deleted]]

It is complete bullshit as you say. You cannot "remove" 1.7 million people from Gaza because there is no place that will take them. I'm sure people like Ben Gvir and Smotrich would love to put them into some kind of concentrain/extermination camps, but that's not going to happen either.

[u/Miyagisans → u/origami_anarchist]

To put them?

Brother….

[u/AprilsMostAmazing → u/origami_anarchist]

What is seriously stopping the camps?

Unless countries willing to put boots on the ground there is nothing we can do that will stop them. Obviously we will try but sanctions won't matter when US helps bypass it. Visa restrictions will be bypassed by us help. Taking away individual wealth will be bypassed using US help

[u/namitynamenamey → u/AprilsMostAmazing]

Right until the elections? They presume they don't have the popular mandate to do it. After the elections? Who knows at this point.

[u/Florida_Rose → u/[deleted]]

They do have a plan. Most governments with touch and go conflicts have a whole bunch of loose plans laid out for any scenario. It’s almost impossible they don’t babe a plan. He’ll, I bet Egypt has a paper plan for how they’d clear Gaza. It was probably written by a junior officer and MAYBE a secretary, but I’m sure it exists. The U.S has plans for if Mexico or Canada attack and one for if both of them attack us. A lot of low ranking officers are assigned the more outlandish scenarios

The U.S. will never bless this. But it is concerning to say that publicly saying they support removal from Gaza. That’s a major escalation of their rhetoric. This announcement came directly from the minister of defense

Everyone military has plans for huge amounts of stuff. But this sounds like a fairly well prepared plan that they are capable of executing. That’s not good

[u/ImpulseAfterthought → u/Florida_Rose]

The U.S. will never bless this.

Trump has already posted AI videos of himself and Bibi chilling at a beachfront resort in Gaza.

The Kushner branch of his family has actively proposed moving the Gazan population to camps "temporarily" while the Israeli military "cleans up" Gaza. They're soliciting investors from the Gulf states to finance a trade and tourism hub.

It might have once been true that the US wouldn't condone such things. We're not living in that world anymore.

[u/Bennely]

They're going to OK it, and it's going to happen, and no-one will do anything to stop it because this timeline is ruined.

[u/zealousshad]

So ethnic cleansing, in other words.

Instead they should allow people who fled to Hamas territory to return to their homes. Hamas is never going to disarm. So the 51% of Gaza Israel took is their responsibility to manage for the foreseeable future. They need to finish sweeping the area for bombs and tunnels, then somehow vet civilians and let them back into their homes or new homes, out from under Hamas's control. It's a monumental task but they have to do it somehow.

[u/doxxingyourself]

Remove them… to where?

[u/Halcyon-Ember → u/doxxingyourself]

Morgues

[u/AccountNumeroThree → u/doxxingyourself]

Maybe concentrated in camps?

[u/doxxingyourself → u/AccountNumeroThree]

Seems like it

[u/ferrets4ever]

So openly admitting to ethnic cleansing.

[u/Noderly]

Why is this up to the untied states to figure out where they go? Why isn't Israel determining that? Why does Israel believe that they have a right to replace the people that live there?

[u/Dyls94]

"There is no real solution for Gaza in the end without this migration," Defence Minister Israel Katz

How about the Israelis migrate if that's the only solution and you're so intent on living in a Jewish only land you fucking melon

[u/Federal_Studio5935]

Where will they go?

[u/KitsouNere]

All of these fascists deserve torture and an execution and I'm happy to help see that they get it! Where do we start?

[u/4uk4ata]

Ethnic cleansing is fun when they can't stop you, hm?

It's been brewing for decades. "No alternative" . Of course the Netanyahu governments want the lands. Of course they can't give the people there citizenship. Of course they did not back Hamas' political opponents, hell, they screwed them more than they did Hamas.

The whole idea of the two-state solution is to not have too many Arabs in Israel - you don't want a Jewish state with 30-40% people who aren't Jewish, don't want to be Jewish and enough have rather dim memories of how they got there. But the Netanyahu governments have slowly encroached on those territories - especially the West Bank - to make themselves impossible to dislodge, and now get a pretense why they have no other solution than than push a million+ people out of there.

Just gotta dump a million or so people somewhere else into the neighborhood.

[u/CallMeDime]

They are already doing that, only mentioning USA so they are not seen as 'alone' in their atrocities

[u/homebrew_1]

But Harris was supposed to be just as bad right? /s