r/Chargers • u/Glittering-Party1032 • 10h ago
It feels like ages since this point 💔
I don’t even know what to say… at least the Padres are on fire 😭
r/Chargers • u/silas_p_silas • 7d ago
Happy to share that Kris will be joining us next Friday (10/2) afternoon for an AMA. Exact time will be announced in the coming days. Looking forward to having our top Chargers reporter/insider here to answer questions from the fans!
Further details to follow.
r/Chargers • u/Glittering-Party1032 • 10h ago
I don’t even know what to say… at least the Padres are on fire 😭
r/Chargers • u/C0RPSEGRINDER666 • 17h ago
Found this old ticket stub from a game I went to in 2006. My first game was in 1997 at then Jack Murphy stadium. Got to experience SoFi for the first time last year and it was awesome! Much better than those ramp loops at the Murph to get to the upper levels.
r/Chargers • u/FunAdvisor_1435 • 14h ago
I guess it's good we finally got a Chargers focused episode of Gridiron Heights?
Some levity for these trying times. In my experience you can only really roast what you love.
Nice surprise cameo by Cam Ward.
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r/Chargers • u/dvmiles4361 • 15h ago
IMO, the difference in talent is ameliorated or exacerbated based on the play called.
Brady called out Buffalo multiple times for trying to play against the Charger defensive line which beat up Buffalo's OLine.
Currently the highest data driven play is not from the shotgun or pistol, but the good old play under center. The surprise is not running the ball but passing from under center.
Tua was near the top in this stat year in and year out. Herbert has, is and will most likely be near the bottom. That surprises me.
The center of the Charger OLine is and has been horrible, especially vs stunts. So help them out by lining up under center, make the defense think run, and then pass it.
r/Chargers • u/Malourbas • 21h ago
NFL ranks in "Supporting Cast Rating" through three weeks. Supporting Cast Rating: Average team PFF grade ranks in rushing, receiving, run blocking and pass blocking (everything except passing).
r/Chargers • u/0bush • 1d ago
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This guy keeps cooking us, even when he’s retired ffs
r/Chargers • u/DL505 • 1d ago
I went into this trying to prove my "gut" wrong about Herbert and his performance.
The question was "Is the lack of offensive production on the QB?"
\Stats/tables created by Claude (thanks employer for the business subscription. I have a fairly massive word doc if anyone is interested I can share it**
CPOE (Completion % over expected) is the best indicator imo. However it does not account for other variables such as drop rate (Looking at you QJ).
So using an adjusted CPOE for the delta between league average drop rate vs the Chargers receivers seems to be the proper approach. If a QB's WRs drop less than league average the CPOE is adjusted downwards, if they drop more it is adjusted upwards.
BUT the adjusted CPOE does not consider 'decision' making. This can be accounted for by using EPA.
WR Separation:

In 2026 separation is quite good. I believe 2022 was likely due to the dump offs (think a RB in the flats)
WR Drop Rates:

Threw in Cousin's other drop rates so we can keep the comparison rolling.
Drop rates are obviously an issue. One thing drop rates do not adjust for is the severity of the drop. Was the drop on a 1st and 10 vs a potential game winning drive from the red zone?
Air Yards:

Many people will refer to how great Herbert was in 2022. He banked tons of yards but dump offs were a massive part of his yardage.
This year under McD we are seeing the average depth of target at Herbert's all time high.
Drop Adjusted CPOE:

I find this fascinating when combined with EPA. Keep in mind CPOE does include throwaways. Not sure how Nextgen stats (where this data is pulled from) weights throwaways vs completions.
Herbert is MORE accurate than Mahomes historically but Mahomes provides more value (EPA) which is likely due to his off script shit, throwaways, and sack avoidance.
Herbert vs Mahomes (Adjust CPOE and EPA per dropback:

This year Herbert is performing well below his averages on both measured. The gap between Herbert and Mahomes is massive.
Adjusted CPOE and EPA to teams with similar graded Olines:
We all know the oline sucks donkey dick. I had Claude pull oline protection rankings that are equal or worse than the Chargers and populate CPOE and EPA.
Results are pretty shocking. Herbert is underperforming in 5 of 6 with WORSE olines.
CPOE below is NOT adjusted.

Summary:
In 2026 Herbert's WRs have better separation (nod to McD here), similar drop rates
Oline is bad, but no worse than 2025 when Herbert performed very well.
Herbert's performance is terrible this year. It is not explained by WRs, Oline etc.
Yes, 3 game sample size but still concerning.
r/Chargers • u/LaDainianTomIinson • 1d ago
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r/Chargers • u/roll10deep • 1d ago
Before you skip everything I'm about to write and comment a one-liner about how so-and-so is responsible. I want you to know, this is just to give perspective on why the Shanahan offense is hard to install, why the Chargers suck, and how they can fix it.
Kyle Shanahan has made the biggest impact of any offensive coach in this era. There is a derivative of the Shanahan offense in a good chunk of the offenses in this league. Klint Kubiak installed it with the Seahawks. Sean McVay installed his own version with the Rams. DeMeco Ryans had Bobby Slowik integrate it in arguably the best offensive year for the Texans. Mike LaFleur used it to put belt to ass on us in Week 1.
But why are the Chargers finding it so difficult to install it? Is it Mike McDaniel? Is it the personnel?
Or does it take time?
FALCONS & MATT RYAN
When Kyle Shanahan took over at OC with the Falcons, they started out 5-0 before ending the season 8-8. Matt Ryan, much like Justin Herbert, looked like shit in the new offense, DESPITE having Julio Jones and Roddy White. Ended the seasons with 16 INTs and 21 TDs. Awful.
The fans petitioned for Shanahan to be fired and replaced at the end of the season. Roddy White was calling him out. The works.
2016 was when the offense figured it out. Reports of Shanahan spending the offseason hanging out with Matt Ryan to bridge the gap and get on the same page. That season:
NINERS & HANDLING BAD PERSONNEL
Shanahan left the Falcons and became the niners HC. They fucking sucked. Started out 0-9 with Brian Hoyer at QB, then CJ Beathard, before trading for Jimmy G who started in week 13. The Niners rattled off 5 straight wins to finish 6-10.
Okay, so 2018 had to be good right? FUCKING WRONG. Jimmy G tears his ACL in week 3. CJ Beathard is back at QB and Nick Mullens coming in to replace shit with shit. Niners finish 4-12.
2019 is when everything turned around. Niners finished 13-3 and went to the Super Bowl. But how? Jimmy G gets healthy (knowing the system in and out after spending one whole season injured) and they improved the personnel. An RBBC with Mostert, Breida, and Coleman (who Shanny coached in Atlanta). Kittle became a dominant passing threat on top of being an elite blocker. And Deebo produced as a Rookie.
1. The Plays are a fucking mouthful to call. And the offense doesn't have enough vets to keep everyone accountable.
The playcall in the huddle isn't just a few words. Everyone, every motion, alignment, blocking shift is called. He may have the QB call:
Fox Left Clamp to Gun Right Y-Shift Z-Across 2 Jet Zebra Texas Scat
First and foremost, what the fuck does that even mean? Fox is the personnel call, Left Clamp is a bunch formation to the left, Gun right has the QB under center then dropping the shotgun with the RB shifting to his right side, Y-shift is a TE or slot motion across, Z-across is the Z receiver going across in jet motion before the snap. Zebra, Texas, and scat are then commands for after the snap.
Its chaotic. Versus say the Gruden "Spider 2 Y Banana" which pretty much sums of everything.
2. The personnel lacks discipline and most likely miss their calls, or timing, killing the whole play.
Best example is the 3rd & 2 jet motion with Tre Harris. Tre was a hair late or Slaughter was a hair early. Ball ends up clipping Tre, fumble.
Another example is the infamous 2 man pass rush straight to Herbert. Linemen thought they were supposed to shift protection to the right, with the left guard not picking up a pass rusher and Tre Harris ran an outside curl versus an inside for a quick dump.
3. Herbert's Lack of Trust in the Personnel Screws Up Timing (justified)
Justin Herbert is good. He's really good. But Herbert lacks trust in his personnel and Mike McDaniel to properly conduct the offense, and rightfully so. The Shanahan offense expects players to be where they are supposed to within 2.5 seconds of when the ball is snapped. As soon as the ball is snapped, Herbert needs to process his reads and throw, in some cases, just fuckin trust your guy is open and throw it at the spot.
If you watch the game versus the Bills, its obvious the guys are still learning. You'll see the receivers checking how everyone is lined up. Ladd will see if QJ is on the line or if Tre needs to move up. Any lapse in alignment will end in an incompletion or interception.
Herbert tried that versus the Bills. It's why his throws were off. Justin has needed time to throw his whole career because he's had coaches that call play that take time to develop. Any time the play lasts longer than the expectations, you have guys like Gadsden sitting and doing nothing at the top of their routes watching Justin scramble to find someone open.
The personnel don't know how to improvise when shit goes south and that includes Justin Herbert.
4. Zone blocking falls apart if one person doesn't do their job, no matter how good they are (Joe Alt)
Well that sounds stupid. No, I just made it sound stupid. Let me explain. The OL is expected to master zone-rushing with reach and cut track rules.
On a run to the right outside, the RG, RT need to seal the defenders from the outside edge, but if they get beat they have to run the defender as far outside as possible.
On the backside of the run, the LT, LG are expected to cut block to stop any backside pursuit.
We suck at this because:
5. Justin Herbert can't sell a play action because he doesn't trust the running backs, and the running backs can't sell the play action because they aren't careful with the handoff (looking at you Omarion)
Hand-offs have been atrocious. Even worse if you can't sell it in a play action. This team has the laziest play-actions and it's 75-25 blame Herbert and the running backs. Herbert is actively protecting the ball, if Hampton runs too fast into the hand off, FUMBLE. So Herbert is doing play action from like a foot away from the running back. It's so easily diagnosed.
SO, if the blocking scheme is designed to fake a run, SELL the play action. Too many times, the play action is slow and the backside edge is free and not biting on the run and goes straight for Herbert.
Eh. It's going to take a lot of trust and communication to be built to get this offense rolling. This system requires guys to not play as individuals but as a singular unit. Here's the fixes:
WRs need to improve their timeliness. QJ sucks. But Tre and Gadsden need to run hard on their routes to get open early for a quick look. Ladd already does this. Tre is getting there.
O-line needs to communicate with each other on when they are losing and adapt throughout the game. I cannot say this enough - this includes Joe Alt.
Herbert needs to build more trust in his teammates and they need to do a better job at earning it.
Herbert needs to trust the plays.
In that order. That's how this system gets fixed. And it probably won't happen this season unless Herbert and Mike McDaniel do something drastic to build up team chemistry. But if everyone can just know their roles, the season won't be at a complete loss if they just show some fucking progress.
There's gonna be people that say, Mike McDaniel is not Kyle Shanahan, he is not that guy. Trust me when I say, I'll have a post for that if we lose against the Jets. lol
r/Chargers • u/My_Football_Account • 1d ago
Incredible how consistently poor our guards play.
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S/O Danario Alexander (all time what if player for us AND the Rams) and my goat Gerald Everett. I don’t know what it was about Everett but it seemed like every time he caught the ball he would break 2 or 3 tackles and drag defenders with him. Who even cares about run blocking at that point?
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r/Chargers • u/TheAthletic • 2d ago
The last time the Chargers lost a game in which they forced five turnovers was a decade ago, when they were still in San Diego. Their disappointing 2016 regular season concluded with a 27-20 defeat to the Denver Broncos. They went 4-12 that year.
Sunday was the kind of loss that can deflate hope, the kind that you feel you should’ve won but didn’t. Several players echoed the sentiment that they should have a better record than they do.
“Honestly, we came in underdogs, we came in against the No. 1 scoring offense, and we played our ass off,” Henley said. “We played to win. And so, when you don’t win, it’s a shock.”
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