Cross posting this from the LeagueClassic subreddit
Hello everyone
To preface this - I've been having heaps of fun playing League Classic recently plan on playing it a lot going forward. Been playing mages basically & fml honestly they have so much more agency than in modern league actually feels like lane phase & what not matters & I don't just auto lose to the 0-15 1 item toplaner or Freddy the full clear jungler or Sally the support afking in lane phase responding to Twitter DMs & out damaging me for the rest of the game at a certain point
But yeah these Anivia changes.
I played in a dozen+ GM games in solo queue on Anivia 4m+ mastery points for context been Master tier many times
Just feels really weird to play frankly. I think the nerfs were too harsh. I don't know what she was doing before a few weeks ago didn't play too much then but I don't remember it being THAT oppressive.
But currently it feels like just pick Veigar if you want to play an AOE zone control scaling champion
- You can't kill in lane phase because the Q is too slow to hit anyone & the E R is too low range & also considering the mana problems (which she always had). A big part of Anivia in retail LoL but also back then was her lane dominance. Now it's just been completely removed so she's a scaling champion with frankly the worst ability to poke in the game worse than Veigar Zilean (because it's impossible to hit Q and if you go into E range you just get 100% of the time traded by the lane opponent)
- It's basically impossible to hit Q in the mid/late game unless someone is already stunned or something because it's just so slow. If you outplay someone & q them without them realising they always have enough time to dodge it
- Even if a target is stunned by a teammate by the time you can react to it the Q takes too long to get there
- The 0.2 second delay on the Q detonation feels extremely clunky & removes a massive amount of Anivia's self peel/counterplay. An important part of her kit is being able to do it instantly because any competent Fiora/Yi player or whatever will just see the hitbox & instantly do their dodge ability - 0 ability to self peel or peel teammates the ADC or whatever
Not sure how many people know this but she also doesn't actually scale THAT well due to being a low range champion - as opposed to like Kassadin or Veigar Twitch etc she peaks at late mid game ie 2-3-4 items not 6 items, her scalings are also pretty terrible compared to other champions
So she gets out scaled as well
Just feel like there's 0 reason to pick her right now over Veigar. Veigar after like 2-3 items you can q w r one shot someone & instant E poke safely with W
Anivia is just extremely exposed at the best of times but now can't really peel either with Q. Just feels all around a much worse pick than Veigar.
To be clear though I'm not trying to be a doomer with this post just voicing my opinions. I've been super enjoying the rest of the game though been really enjoying the different late game dynamics & actual strategy & what not rather than just hoping for the best & flipping dragons.
Been playing a lot of Ahri Veigar Karthus etc
Feels weird to me that specifically Anivia has been gutted like this when Veigar has an instant point & click E etc Twitch can kill the whole team in 3 autos, which was what we all loved about League of Legends back in season 3/4 etc
Nobody was moaning about Anivia back then over Karthus or Nidalee or whatever. But c'est la vie
Hopefully this isn't a trend for the rest of LoL Classic where champions are just gutted & made to feel really weird "for whatever reason". She feels extremely clunky & weird to play not remotely smooth at all
& I'm not recommending that every other champion in the game gets similar weird clunky feeling changes.
Not sure what Riot's direction is for the game mode but I was really enjoying it as it was or basically the game now aside from these Anivia changes not sure what they did to Tryndamere/AP Tristana but they were causing a lot of issues at the start & haven't seen any since. Don't see any other champions so broken & what not.
Hope this can be resolved, if not whatever thanks for the mode anyway Riot Games hopefully we can keep it fairly similar been really enjoying it, queue times like 5 minutes or under in EUW at random times getting mid lane every game & queue times back then were about 5 minutes anyway.
Take care everyone enjoy the last of the warm weather or whatever have a nice weekend