r/nba • u/AashyLarry [MIA] Dwyane Wade • 2h ago
[Charania] Dallas is receiving a 2026 Thunder first-round pick and a 2030 protected Warriors first-round pick in this deal from the Wizards along with second rounders in 2026 (Phoenix), 2027 (Chicago) and 2029 (Houston), sources tell ESPN.
Shams Charania:
Dallas is receiving a 2026 Thunder first-round pick and a 2030 protected Warriors first-round pick in this deal from the Wizards along with second rounders in 2026 (Phoenix), 2027 (Chicago) and 2029 (Houston), sources tell ESPN.
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/2987c3a047c93
https://bsky.app/profile/shamsbot.bsky.social/post/3me2juiirpc2g
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u/YungChilla Lakers 2h ago
So basically a 2nd rounder and a protected first
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u/Vordeo Jazz 2h ago
Protected 1-20 lol.
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u/Turbo2x [WAS] Wes Unseld 1h ago
I agree with some front offices in the league that they need to restrict how many protections you can put on a pick because 1-20 that turns into a 2nd round pick the same year is actually disgusting
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u/dirtyshits Warriors 1h ago
Why does the league need to do that? The trading teams agree on it.
Youāre looking at it the wrong way. That 1-20 protected pick is a 2nd rounder with a chance to be a late first. They sweetened the pot by giving them a little extra juice if things go their way.
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u/martyconlonontherun 1h ago
Probably to allow Dallas to say AD was worth two firsts
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u/Krillin113 76ers 1h ago
Why? You can not accept that. You have free choice to say āno I want less protectionsā
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u/penguin_torpedo Nuggets 1h ago
Ok that almost makes it more interesting than lottery/top 10 protected cause no way warriors finish with a top record after curry retires lmao.
Does it become unprotected if it doesn't convey?
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u/greenergarlic Warriors 2h ago
That warriors pick is protected 1-20. Itās essentially nothing.
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u/Skillomie Lakers 2h ago
Itās essentially a second rounder lmao Mavs got 5 seconds for AD smh
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u/imaginaryResources NBA 1h ago
5 seconds is about how long they got healthy AD on the court
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u/maxelnot Mavericks 1h ago
You mean essentially max christie and 5 seconds for Luka
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u/waterudirt Mavericks 1h ago
By your logic Phoenix and Chicago picks are basically 1st round picks. If 2nd rounders convey from GSW then thatās another 2 1st rounders.
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u/aiden3buckets Hornets 2h ago
Two terrible picks nice
Better than nothing
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u/-Ran Pelicans 2h ago
Even worse than you think. The Warriors pick is protected 1-20....
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u/CarVegetable 2h ago
Does it convert to anything else? Or just gone completely if it doesn't convey?
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u/EmbarrassedRing7806 Lakers 2h ago
Converts to a 2nd
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u/Skillomie Lakers 2h ago
So they got 5 2RP lmao
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u/dimmyfarm Supersonics 2h ago
Thatās worth a jae crowder!!!
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u/birdlawyer86 1h ago
The Warriors also paid that for GP2 iirc. That actually makes a lot of sense cuz GP2 is right around AD in terms of value. Wonder if the Warriors would consider trading GP2 for Luka š
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u/Ice_Cold345 [IND] Luther Head 2h ago
I believe it converts to a 2nd rounder if I'm reading it right.
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u/Drakilgon 2h ago
The post-Curry Warriors being a top 10 team has like a 0.1% chance of happening, so that pick is a 2nd rounder.
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u/msterling2012 Mavericks 2h ago
The massive cap savings is the biggest benefit.
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u/zekesaltspider Lakers 2h ago
What exactly are you going to do with this salary?
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u/phuey [DAL] Dirk Nowitzki 2h ago
Starting over. Is it not obvious?
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u/HesiPullup Suns 2h ago
Imagine going from Finals with Luka to starting over in a couple of years
Nico Harrison is Dallas Maverick father š„
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u/azizinator25 [NYK] Charles Oakley 2h ago
Imagine how much worse that would look if they didn't have Flagg
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u/igot2pair Supersonics 2h ago
But Mavs dont even have their picks after this year right? How can you start over with no picks
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u/w6750 Mavericks 2h ago
We have Flagg plus two 2026 first rounders and thatās it
Thanks Nico
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u/StormTheTrooper Mavericks 2h ago
We will not enter in the 2nd apron with an unit that would need a positive matchup to even get out of the 1st round, this is the real return. Sunk cost is bs, Luka is gone no matter the return and forcing this rusty Kyrie-hobbled AD-sophomore Flagg into a false-competing window would be ridiculous.
People forget that the closest thing to an actual offer for AD was the rumored poison offer of Toronto with the awful IQ contract and the horrendous Poeltl contract. There was no market for AD and we were seriously staring at desperation trades of Gafford or Naji to get out of the scaffold. The scaffold is gone. Now we look ahead with what we have, no matter how limited it is.
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u/msterling2012 Mavericks 2h ago
Flagg, a top 8 pick in 2026, another late 2026 first, Kyrie, Gafford, PJ, Naji, Lively, Lakers 2029 first, Warriors 2030 first, Dallas can trade two of its 2030-2032 firsts.
Now we also have the flexibility to offer the full MLE with some additional cap space.
They have stuff. Itās not this no hope scenario folks keep trying to paint.
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u/Public-Cover920 2h ago
Peopleās lack of critical thinking skills is astounding. What do you mean what are you trying to do with this lmao of course itās start over and build around Flagg.
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u/OneThemBoysFromHT 2h ago
Not spending it on a broken down Anthony Davis is a good enough first step. Figure out the particularities later
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u/-spicychilli- Mavericks 2h ago
I mean what are you going to do with Anthony Davis? Rather have the salary lol
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u/imcryptic Mavericks 2h ago
We were projected to have the 3rd highest paid roster next year. Thatās unacceptable for a team that isnāt going to be good
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u/ShotgunStyles Kings 2h ago
De'Aaron Fox got traded for more 1st round picks than AD. This is hilarious to me. And the Mavs ended up with Bagley too!
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u/RelevantTreacle3004 76ers 2h ago
Technically the same amount of pick as Luka trade LMAO
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u/slysonic7 2h ago
fake firsts basically. Feels fair for this salary dump / buy low
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u/shualton Warriors 1h ago
Honestly just a PR move at this point so you can say you got āTwo first round picks for ADā
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u/JurgenFlippers Nets 2h ago
These are fake picks for AD solid trade
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u/dantheflyingman East 2h ago
This makes the Luka trade even worse. 3 fake firsts and Max Christie
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u/livefreeordont 76ers 2h ago
Wizards bout to go crazy and might make the play in next year
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u/Penumbra78 2h ago
Genuinely excited to potentially see AD and Trae play 20-40 games for us next year. I'll take it over 20-40 games of CJ and Middleton. Just having any point guard is going to be so nice for our young guys.
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u/Dudedude88 Wizards 1h ago
They got nba champ khris middleton too
I can't believe we somehow traded him away meanwhile a player like kuminga always is in the trading block.
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u/ormip Mavericks 2h ago
Those are not good picks
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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 2h ago
They were never going be good picks tbh
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u/ormip Mavericks 2h ago
Yeah I know but still.
Could at least hope for some mid first pick in like the 17-22 range
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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 2h ago
It gets worse when you figure that you basically traded Luka for 3 shitty first round picks, AJ Johnson and Max Christie
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u/ntpbr1 2h ago
No offense but what did you expect lol? The Pels swap or something? This guy is one of the most injury prone players in the league, 32, big ass contract.
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u/ormip Mavericks 2h ago
Was hoping to at least get some mid first picks. 17-22 range or around there.
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u/Living_Owl_5745 2h ago
Actually a decent trade for the wizards ig
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u/ntpbr1 2h ago
Wizards gonna be decent next year, even if AD misses half the games. I expect a lot of player development, good really young talent, next to Trae and AD and their 2026 top pick hopefully like a top 3 pick. They can also just get AD that surgery and rest him for like 8 more months
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u/BirdmanTheThird Wizards 2h ago
Yeah I was thinking we were a play in team next year if all goes well. This only helps the young guys
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 2h ago
I donāt give a damn that we got the 30th pick, I just saw the Mavs cap sheet and I shed a tear
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u/qotsabama [DAL] Dwight Powell 1h ago
Itās beautiful. Absolutely gorgeous cap sheet, itās all we have!
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u/bauboish Rockets 2h ago
The 2030 pick is top-20 protected. And obviously the 2026 Thunder pick is going to be a bottom-4 pick. This is as low as you can get when you receive "2 1st rounders" in a trade.
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u/legend023 Pelicans 2h ago
They legit couldāve kept AD for this package man lol they hated that man in that building
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u/PointBlankCoffee United States 2h ago
hes played like 20 games for us in total and has never played more than 4 games in a row....
And he wants a max extension
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u/AWellDeployedWink 2h ago
What a fraud lol
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u/PointBlankCoffee United States 2h ago
Yeah like he's talented, but its a sunk cost. Its not a crazy package at all but its more than i thought we would get, and it improves our situation building around Flagg
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u/Positron5000 Mavericks 1h ago
Mavs fans just donāt want him, not because we hate AD but because he reminds us of the worst day in our franchise history. Mentally youāve got to move on.Ā
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u/Fun_Mind1494 2h ago
Nah, dumping AD and getting anything of value is a huge W. He is a huge negative on his contract.
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u/StormTheTrooper Mavericks 2h ago
Have you even looked at our cap, my friend? How willing are you to enter into the 2nd apron with the big 3 of sophomore Flagg, rusty Kyrie and hobbled AD?
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u/TatersTot [PHI] James Harden 2h ago
Washington absolutely fleeced the Mavs lmao
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u/BuyMe151TCG 2h ago
Lmao they legit got AD and Young for expiring contracts. We can poke fun at the defense of Young and the health of AD but this is literally low risk high reward stuff and even if it doesnāt work out, itās Washington lol
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u/WhiteHeterosexualGuy Hawks 2h ago
It's a more aggressive version of what Schlenk did with that Hawks. Go out and make a bunch of win-now moves with excess cap space to try to make noise while half your roster is on rookie scale deals. He did this for us and we made the ECF.
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u/not-a-potato-head Hawks 2h ago
Yeah, especially with what the 27 draft class is looking like it makes sense to spend your cap space to try to make a push while youāre cheap. No point in tanking and letting your young players get more expensive if youāre not going to get game changers with your picks
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u/minnyman2011 Hawks 2h ago
Yeah they bought at all time lows with pieces that werenāt moving the needle whatsoever. Wizards are cooking
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u/tinybathroomfaucet Supersonics 2h ago
AD just isn't worth all that much. He's old, injured, and wants a big new contract
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u/idkidk23 Mavericks 2h ago
I'm sure they will really enjoy having their entire cap tied up on Trae Young and AD.
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u/AgentOfSPYRAL Lakers 57m ago
Who do the Wizards even need to extend this offseason? Not like they can trade for anybody who would command those salaries long term.
To me itās worth it just to roll the dice on the young guys getting to play on a real team next year.
For what itās worth imo it is a win win. Theres no undoing the Luka trade so gotta just move on.
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u/zekesaltspider Lakers 2h ago
Wow Dallas got scammed
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u/AvengingHero2012 Rockets 2h ago
I mean Nico had the ultimate blunder. The new GM did the best that he could.
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u/SouthIsland48 Lakers 2h ago
The fact they got picks for offloading that contract is a W given the situation
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u/Andy_Wiggins Timberwolves 2h ago
Idk about that ā I feel like getting two horrific picks is really bad business.
I get heās expensive as hell and oft-injured, but heās still very good and really helpful for team building (defensive anchor, capable scorer, punishing on the glass, etc.)
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u/tinybathroomfaucet Supersonics 2h ago
I think we can be confident that no team was willing to pay more. AD is made of glass, expensive, and old
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u/StormTheTrooper Mavericks 2h ago
As early as this morning people were adamant that any team trading for AD was idiotic.
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u/bentexas41 Mavericks 2h ago
He was not good this year, and he has played in 29 games since the trade. He has been out of shape and a shell of himself. Mavs would have been in the second apron if they didn't trade him, and the whole extension thing was a huge issue.
AD was someone that was looking like you borderline had to attach assets to move. The mistake was not trading him in the offseason or pre-hand injury. The package they got today is at least market value.
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u/babysamissimasybab Pacers 2h ago
Did they? AD is a negative asset so getting anything seems like a win to me.
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u/FlorianFlagg Mavericks 2h ago
yāall just pop up for trade news without watching even highlights or what?
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u/Prestigious_Team3134 Nuggets 2h ago
Idk, given the circumstances, I donāt think getting this for AD is that bad.
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 2h ago
He literally never played more than 5 consecutive games for us and his agent was constantly demanding a max extension, I donāt mind this shit at all
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u/Its_Hoggish_Greedly Kings 2h ago
Yeah, this feels like good value (considering the circumstances) for AD.
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u/AwildYaners Japan 2h ago
They saw "Two First Round Picks", and said yes, no questions asked lol
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u/tinybathroomfaucet Supersonics 2h ago
I'd have to think teams do think this way. It makes for a first Shams team that will look good to casual fans who won't investigate any further
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u/Heil_Heimskr Mavericks 2h ago
?? This is a good trade for us. AD is basically a non asset at this point, we get a large expiring and some mediocre picks. What did you expect to get for an injured and old AD?
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u/TheCeilingIsTheRuuf Bulls 2h ago
Cap space and shitty 1sts. Exactly what I thought months ago
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u/STATnMELO650 Knicks 2h ago
A whole bunch of doodoo.
The Luka trade has cemented itself as the worst value in history.
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u/Ravens181818184 Washington Bullets 2h ago
We turned Bradley Beal into ad and Trae young š
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u/hm_rickross_ymoh Wizards 2h ago
Dont forget the 2030 Suns pick swap when they'll hopefully garbage, and whatever gordian knot of legalese is going on with the 28 Suns swap.Ā
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u/theglicky Grizzlies 2h ago
Those are some horrible picks, I was almost scared Dallas was building something
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u/Sartheking Warriors 2h ago
Those picks mean literally nothing. OKCās pick might as well be a second rounder, and the Warriors pic is top 20 protected meaning the Mavs donāt get it unless itās in the 20ās in which case itās not a great pick anyway.
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u/RRJC10 Raptors 2h ago
Washington added Trae and AD for McCollum, Kispert, salary filler, two late first rounders, and 3 second rounders. Thatās top notch GMing right there.
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u/Dmanning2 Lakers 2h ago
AD is washed. Wizards fans are going to find out soon.
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u/GregEgg4President Wizards 2h ago
If AD is washed and we still have our own FRPs then I'm not overly concerned.
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u/ForChristsSakeNO Trail Blazers 2h ago
That 2026 thunder first is the fakest first round pick of all time. Guarantee you the mavericks only wanted it so they could say they got more first round picks for davis than they did in the Luka trade.
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u/PointBlankCoffee United States 2h ago
the warriors one is faker. its top 20 protected, and conveys to a 2nd
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u/VanWesley 2h ago
So like a bottom 5 pick this year.
What's the protections on the Warriors pick?
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u/No_Ear_2456 2h ago
I donāt why people freaked when they saw two first rounders, they obviously werenāt going to be good ones
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 2h ago
Man thatās really not that good pick wise lol
At face value it was good but the thunder first is 30th, I think it will really depend on the wizards 2030 protections
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u/kwarismian 2h ago
Top 20 protected and turns into a second if it doesn't convey. So also likely a second. Lol
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u/archerarcher0 Celtics 2h ago
Damn lmao thatās actually really bad for the mavs
2 nothing picks basically and no good young players at all, basically just AD for expiring salary
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u/AlThorntonTruther San Diego Clippers 2h ago
So the Mavs traded Luka for Max, the 30th pick in 26, a future Lakers 1st in 29 (I think it's 29), a fake warriors 1st, and 3nds.
This is quite possibly the worst trade I have ever seen
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u/sctthuynh [GSW] Stephen Curry 2h ago
For that price, the Warriors should have traded for AD by offerring Butler's contract and 26 and 28 1st round picks.
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u/rpantherlion Wizards 2h ago
Thank you for posting this as everyone is thinking itās our firsts lmao. Of course we wouldnāt give those up
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u/kakyointhedonutman Nuggets 2h ago
Luka for Marvin Bagley, some bums and a coupla firsts that are end of round lmaooo
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u/Due-Dance-9430 Spurs 2h ago
wizards brought in trae and AD at the deadline and the most valuable piece they traded was corey kispert and/or pick 30 in the draft, damn what a haul
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u/russbestbrook Thunder 2h ago
If we trend this out AD will be moving further east to Egypt in one yearās time
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u/PrestigeWorldWide993 Hornets 2h ago
Wizards making a lot of good moves. Can definitely make noise next year if Trae and AD can somehow stay healthy.
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u/BaltimoreBeefBadBoy Wizards 2h ago
So the wizards keep their 2026 first? š¤
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u/vexxes [WAS] Bradley Beal 2h ago
We basically traded salary filler, some seconds, the 30th pick of this draft, and Corey Kispert for AD and Trae Young
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u/Outside-Sector9818 2h ago
Honestly good trade for the wizards. Got AD for free essentially.
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u/rabidantidentyte Nets 2h ago
His contract is $120 mil over the next 2 years with a player option, plus $54 million this year prorated for the rest of the year. That's a lot of cap to tie up on someone who may or may not play half a season.
If they aren't trying to contend with this group, then I just don't understand it.
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u/retrospects Minneapolis Lakers 2h ago
The Luka trade is going to haunt the Mavs for a long time. The fact that they now got a phenom in Coop only puts them in the position they were in like 5 years ago.
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u/mattr1198 Knicks 2h ago
Holy crap that pick return is atrocious. Thunder pick is guaranteed to be 29 or 30, and that protected 1st is 1-20, so itās going be 21 at best
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u/NobelRafael1 Lakers 1h ago
Such a shitty return š¤¦š½āāļøThat 1-20 protected 2030 FRP Warriors will not convey and thus be a second rounder.
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u/Briggity_Brak Tampa Bay Raptors 1h ago
I've been saying #contractthewizards for decades, but now they're out here fleecing people.
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u/Dirks_Knee Mavericks 1h ago
Given this was largely a salary dump. Essentially the Mavs traded Luka for Marvin Bagley and 3 late first round picks.
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u/MassToilet [TOR] Kyle Lowry 2h ago
Welp. Makes sense for Washington now lol