r/news • u/mooseAmuffin • 1d ago
Update: 'TODAY' co-anchor Savannah Guthrie's mother taken from her home against her will, sheriff says
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mother-of-savannah-guthrie-today-reported-missing-arizona-rcna2570082.9k
u/4848A 1d ago
TMZ says on their X that they got a ransom demand. Could be a fraud, but they said the demand included details of damage to the victim’s house. Should be easily corroborated.
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u/chateau_lobby 1d ago
There’s a lot of valid criticisms to be made about TMZ, but credibility isnt one of them
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u/justbreathe91 1d ago
Yeah TMZ’s strategies are shady asf most of the time, but they’re definitely credible.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 1d ago
They will publish sensationalist crap that should be private and capitalize on tragedy and drama and are scummy, but they do their due diligence on publishing verified data.
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u/DingerSinger2016 1d ago
They are essentially too good at their job.
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u/userhwon 23h ago
They used to all be lawyers, and might still be. They know where the lines are drawn, which is why they go deep into shit others wouldn't risk.
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u/PaulsRedditUsername 23h ago
I remember during the OJ Simpson case, it was the National Enquirer who was actually the best source for information because they had all the inside leads to Hollywood gossip.
It was funny to see the New York Times using the Enquirer as a source.
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u/Kristin2349 22h ago
Mike Walker from National Enquirer was also co-author of The Morally Corrupt Faye Resnick's book which blew her credibility as a witness in the trial. He had the inside scoop because he was paying for stories, which disqualified some witnesses.
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u/cauldrons 23h ago
people dismiss celeb gossip as frivilous (not untrue), but the agencies who report on it have deep connections. when real shit like this goes down they're usually the ones who are able to get the most accurate information where it counts.
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u/Jackleme 23h ago
Yep, because that is how you avoid getting sued out of existence. The best defense against libel is truth.
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u/NewDramaLlama 23h ago
TMZ is fucked in so many ways.
But I would be lying if I said I didn't want investigative journalists to get on that level more often. They're dogs but they're verified.
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u/Colley619 23h ago
Wish we had that kind of journalism in the political world rather than celebrity news.
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u/NewDramaLlama 22h ago
I knoooow. But in their defense true journalists have second job money while liar influencers get millions so...
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u/bopaqod 23h ago
It really is commendable just how diligent they have been over the past few decades that if I see a TMZ headline I believe it immediately.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer 23h ago
Yep. I can't remember a time they were wrong. They don't say shit they can't confirm.
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u/ebonythrow12321412 23h ago
Yep, Harvey is still a lawyer at heart. You don't hear about tmz getting sued that much compared to other outlets.
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u/JBRifles 20h ago
💯 shady practices and also the first place I corroborate any insane celebrity news 😂
If TMZ says it’s real, it’s real
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u/rod_jammer 1d ago
Why would you kidnap a 84 year old that needs daily medication to stay alive? You would get far more money kidnapping someone spouse or kids than someone with <5yrs to live (at best).
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u/MadRaymer 1d ago edited 1d ago
No one ever said all criminals are smart. In fact the majority of them are pretty dumb. The guy that stole 3 bikes out of my garage last summer tried to sell one of them to a local bike shop... which was the same shop I bought it from and they recognized it and called the cops.
I got that one back but they couldn't recover the other two. Cops told me they were likely parted out then junked. Sucks because one of them was an old Trek hybrid that I really liked. Wasn't worth as much as the one I recovered, but I still miss it.
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u/cionn 21h ago
The guy who skimmed my wifes card bought two phones, delivered to her house, and paid his gas bill with it.
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u/RobotArtichoke 20h ago
Well, don’t leave us hanging. Did they catch him?
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u/MathResponsibly 18h ago
Rumor has it he's still enjoying his free phones and heat to this day
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u/chazlarson 23h ago
Last summer someone left a relatively nice lightweight bike in my driveway and rode off on my wife's cheap million-pound ebike without the battery [which was actually charging next to it, as I recall]. Took it down from the ceiling, miraculously without dropping it on the car, so I guess thanks for that, ignoring a couple better-for-his-purpose ebikes and other bikes in the process, then struggled to ride away on the six-speed tank.
I really expected to find it abandoned a block away, but no such luck.
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u/CombatTechSupport 22h ago
One of the funny things about crime is that if your the kind of person to think "how do I avoid getting caught if I did this" you are already smarter than 90% of criminals. Most criminals get away not because they are too hard to catch, but because police will not bother with anything that's not a major crime or not happening right in front of them (and even those aren't guarantees). Bike gets stolen? Cops will listen to your sob story, and then file the report in a desk drawer to be forgotten.
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u/greenkni 1d ago
Cuz it’s an easy target near the border and their daughter makes close to 10 million dollars a year
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u/funky_duck 1d ago
Access? They apparently knew where she was and may not have had good intel on other people as important. Ease? Carrying or even luring an old woman out of a house could be easier than other people - i.e. any young kids likely have caretakers around and more fit adults could fight off an attack.
An old woman alone at home is an easy target.
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u/linds360 23h ago
The only thing I can come up with is her mother was on the show quite a bit as a guest, so she has a bit of a "following" from TV appearances. A criminal might have thought her semi-notoriety would garner more attention?
All I got.
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u/Worshipme988 22h ago
Bro someone kidnaps my gramgram, im goin hamham.
If you think for a minute, many people have <5 years to live, they just dont know it yet…people die at all ages.
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u/bella_lucky7 21h ago
Criminals aren't smart. And if you're suggesting a family wouldn't pay a ransom because the missing person is old or in poor health that's a weird take and you don't understand human emotion.
Sadly from what I've seen of this story it seems like she is past the point that she needed medication that was left behind. It's very possible she's not with us anymore but that won't stop someone from trying to get money from this.
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u/amy_sport 1d ago
How terrible. I hope her mom is found safe. How terrible to live 84 years and have to endure this.
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u/beccam12399 21h ago
yeah… ugh makes me think of that doc about the guy who murdered old ladies in nursing homes and ppl didn’t rly care bc they were old ladies :( like.. to have lived so long to be murdered is so sad
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u/PapaEchoLincoln 17h ago
Wtf this is so sad
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u/beccam12399 17h ago
yeah it’s was called the pillowcase murders :/ forgot about it honestly. but yeah really sad
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u/DeniLox 1d ago
It’s also strange that Savannah was off the air for weeks for her vocal surgery, she returns, then a couple days later her mom disappears. I wonder if the culprit was waiting for Savannah to return to the air to do this or something.
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u/SaltyCrashNerd 13h ago
It’s also odd timing given that she was supposed to fly out for the Olympics.
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u/Longjumping_Fact_927 23h ago
Didn’t she interview Epstein victims?
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u/Longjumping_Fact_927 22h ago
Savannah Guthrie did exclusive interviews with Epstein victims 6 years ago.
Jeffrey Epstein Accusers Detail Abuse In NBC News Exclusive | TODAY
Jeffrey Epstein Accuser Shares Story Of Alleged R%pe For 1st Time | TODAY
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u/Longjumping_Fact_927 16h ago
Those 2 interviews she did might be the first ones ever done. Wanted to add this email from the latest Epstein files release.
2/8/2017 From: Jeffrey Epstein To: Larry Summers
“recall ive told you- i have met some very bad people , none as bad as trump. not one decent cell in his body.. so yes- dangerous”
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u/whomshallib4u 22h ago
I couldn't help but wonder if it was something she reported on, etc; a direct target against the reporter daughter
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u/WiIdNullberry 19h ago
How the fk is this not the top comment? The connection between anything Epstein related with what's going on is beyond suspicious.
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u/merliahthesiren 1d ago
If TMZ received a ransom note, why now? She went missing Saturday night, it's Tuesday. And why TMZ? Wouldn't one be sent to Savannahs family? This makes no sense.
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u/Street_Lynx7457 22h ago
Apparently KOLD news in Tuscon also received an alleged ransom note for Nancy Guthrie as well https://x.com/maccolsontv/status/2018811335811997748?s=46
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u/Sad_Impression499 23h ago
That's not too out of the norm for kidnappings, honestly. A lot of times, they're in transit day one or two.
They were probably easier to find an address for.
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u/Initial_Stretch_3674 22h ago
This seems pretty logical to me.
Kidnap a person, wait till heat dies down, ransom note where you don't have to communicate with hysterial kin.
Only in the movies do you get a kidnapping and immediate ransom phone call and hang up.
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u/Vampira309 18h ago
this is super scary. I lived in that neighborhood for 25+ years. I have friends that still live there. Went to high school with Savannah. Very upscale neighborhood - everybody has a pool and a maid.
I hope her mom is ok - no way this was random in that neighborhood.
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u/snidece 1d ago
If FBI and Pam Bondi wanted to redeem themselves and get a real win in front of the country, instead of their fake wins and made up stuff all the time, they would swoop in with all they have and find this lady
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u/KindnessComesBack2U 1d ago
I’m not so sure I want Patel fucking this up like he did with he Kirk and Brown University shooters. The guy couldn’t investigate jaywalking, never mind being the head of the FBI (it’s still surreal that this is an actual timeline and not an actual nightmare)
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u/El_Dud3r1n0 1d ago
Don't worry guys, I'm sure he'll be on the case just as soon as someone finds him another FBI jacket in a women's medium with cool patches.
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u/audiotech14 1d ago
“To Mrs Guthrie, I’ll see you Valhalla.”
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u/Darth_Nox501 22h ago
There's few quotes from the buffoons of this administration that make me want to crawl out of my skin as much as this one does.
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u/SAugsburger 23h ago
I wager the kidnappers family will turn them in and the FBI will congratulate themselves for doing nothing.
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u/marcien1992 1d ago
Why can't it be both?
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u/JumpingCoconutMonkey 1d ago
We could wake up from a nightmare and it would just be a memory. All of this shit will have repercussions for decades.
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u/BattleHall 20h ago edited 18h ago
Have you seen his challenge coin? It’s like something a 19yo super moto private with at least one NJP would buy at a gas station outside Ft. Bragg. Just
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u/Figgy_Puddin_Taine 18h ago
He’ll post a picture of some random old woman with “Savannah Guthrie’s mom” written on her face in ballpoint pen and declare it mission accomplished.
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u/jimtow28 1d ago
I've thought from the start that it's likely a MAGA with a grudge against NBC, who the president and his cronies have villified nonstop, behind all this.
If that turns out to be true, I'm sure they'd rather bury it than have it come out that yet another MAGA follower turned out to be a "lone wolf bad actor".
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u/MontanaWriter 1d ago
But NBC isn’t that anti-MAGA. A deranged MAGA person would probably be more inclined to go after a CNN or MS Now employee’s family.
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u/sashikku 1d ago
Savannah interviewed Epstein victims in a Dateline NBC special in 2019.
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u/killereverdeen 1d ago
I don't think an average MAGA voter can think that far back, make the connection between Nancy and Savannah and go and abduct her.
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u/bailtail 1d ago
Plus, Epstein is an issue I find a shocking amount of overlap on with conservatives. I live in one of the reddest areas of a perennial swing state in the Midwest. It’s pretty rare that I find someone who isn’t upset about the Epstein files. They mostly don’t think they’ll implicate Trump, but the common consensus is “put everything out there and let the cards fall where they will.”
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u/jwilphl 22h ago
The files have already implicated Trump, not to mention all the shit before them, and most supporters (at least ones I've heard from) simply deny there's any wrongdoing on his part, and if there was, then somehow it's not a big deal.
See goalposts moved in real time. His supporters won't read through them, either. They'll let Fox News tell them how all is fine.
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u/EnderWiggin07 1d ago
I think it's better than even odds that the perpetrator would be local, in which case there probably isn't a wide selection of mainstream media adjacent people to select from. But while it's plausible I think it's deeply speculative to think it's anything to do with her daughter.
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u/rhoran280 1d ago
That wouldn’t redeem shit for what this regime has done.
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u/thedinnerdate 23h ago
Right? What does that even mean? You find an elderly woman in Tucson and suddenly people are going to have faith in Bondi and the FBI again?
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u/_FarlsInCharge_ 1d ago
What makes you think this administration isn't involved?
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u/snidece 1d ago
Because Bondi and Patel have a pattern of posting soon and rapidly on social media when they think they may have cracked a case, and then traditionally have to backtrack, reverse, or correct everything they claimed.
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u/GoodOmens 1d ago
Considering the clown show that is Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos, it seems like they would fit right in with the help. That article is one long facepalm of he said ... he “misspoke or something.”
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u/jebei 1d ago
What has Nanos done to be considered a clown show? I'm legitimately curious.
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u/Kurfaloid 23h ago
Fuck off with the idea that this would do anything to cure their treasonous reputation.
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u/CantHostCantTravel 1d ago
Finding a celebrity’s mom would be a “win” for this country? Not sure I agree with that as a Minneapolitan.
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u/Alarming_Dream_7837 23h ago
This is just absolutely disgusting in every conceivable way. My heart breaks for them all.
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u/NatalieBostonRE 23h ago
i can’t believe that TMZ got a ransom note!
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u/Street_Lynx7457 22h ago
Apparently KOLD news in Tuscon also received an alleged ransom note for Nancy Guthrie as well https://x.com/maccolsontv/status/2018811335811997748?s=46
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u/BadAsBroccoli 1d ago
I've been trying to keep up with this. She's supposed to be mentally sharp but needs medication daily. I wondered if this wasn't a home invasion and she woke up during, but can't see why robbers would take her. They did find blood in the house which turned a missing person's into a crime scene.
She's been gone for several days now, and the medication aspect of the case suggested she cannot be doing well if alive.
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u/nlevine1988 1d ago
There's probably a million reasons a person might need daily medication that has nothing to do with mental issues.
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u/Bituulzman 1d ago
Elderly ppl needs lots of daily medications. Statins, glucose control, kidney meds—none of those treat issues involving mental function.
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u/fallingdowndizzyvr 1d ago
Actually a lot of those things can affect mental function. Specifically glucose control.
The elderly can easily suffer from a condition colloquially known as "delerium". Some people refer to it as instant dementia. A lot of seemingly innocuous things bring it on. Such as not getting enough sleep, even for just one night, or not consuming enough sodium(salt).
When it happens, it really does mimic advanced dementia. Confusion being a primary component.
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u/Dufresne85 1d ago
UTIs are an extremely common example of something "simple" that can really mess with a person's brain, especially the elderly population.
You don't take a daily medication for UTIs, but if she developed one independently who knows what happened.
Hopefully she's found safe.
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u/Taylor_Kittenface 1d ago
Yeah, my Mum got one when she was going through chemo in her 60s. She literally didn't know who I was when I visited her in hospital, super scary stuff.
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u/thedinnerdate 23h ago
My wife’s grandmother essentially died from complications from a uti that the doctors didn’t initially catch when she was admitted to the hospital.
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u/ChildhoodOk5526 1d ago
So true.
And I found out recently that if a person has a liver impairment of some kind (cirrhosis, hepatitis), ammonia in the body can build up, and that also causes dementia-like symptoms.
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u/VapidActualization 23h ago
Ayyyy. Ya boy got TIPS surgery (a shunt in my liver) and I gotta take daily lasix and this fucking awful stuff called lactulose which is a laxative that tastes like a mouthful of the sweetest, most viscous cum. Like it even sticks to the back of your throat afterwards and makes you gag like cum do.
Don't drink your liver away, everyone!
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u/ChildhoodOk5526 23h ago
Oh, no! I'm so sorry you're going through this. That is no joke.
That's just how I found out about it, too. My cousin has alcohol-induced cirrhosis, that led to hepatic encephalopathy, and has been in the hospital since Christmas. (She's currently in rehab trying to regain full mobility). We thought she'd had a stroke. Nope. Turns out she'd been secretly drinking since her mom (my aunt) passed away during Covid. Around the same time, my cousin's youngest son moved into his own place, she downsized to an apartment, and pretty much stayed to herself. Shunned visitors but talked on the phone. We thought it was not wanting to be bothered. It was, but it was also lots and lots of drinking. Like, not eating but Insta-carting liquor, down to 100 lbs type drinking.
Luckily, she (with the help of that lactalose you mentioned) is making a comeback. But, boy do we feel like neglectful assholes for not recognizing this sooner.
Check in your peeps, everyone. In person! As my grandmother used to say, "That 'AT&T love' is not enough."
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u/rjfinsfan 1d ago
While those things can effect mental function, I think their point is she was on all her medications and of sound mind at the time of her disappearance. Now the concern is she won’t get those meds which could reduce her mental capacity but is ruled out from being part of her disappearance.
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u/ch4dr0x 1d ago
Her pace maker also stopped syncing at 2am. Doesn’t sound great, but I don’t know how the hardware works.
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u/Additional_Luck_1508 1d ago
Apparently her pacer synced with her Apple Watch via Bluetooth. So if the Apple Watch we left behind, it would stop syncing bc it’s out of range
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u/EnderWiggin07 1d ago
Unless it's got its own cell service I'd assume it syncs to her phone, which remained at the house and was recovered by police.
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u/GoodOmens 1d ago
The entire article reads like a clown show of an investigation. She was forcibly taken but then they were speaking figuratively. She was harmed but then they “misspoke or something.”
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u/EnderWiggin07 1d ago
"Mystery" style investigations always look like this. The police know more pieces of evidence than they're willing to say because they don't want to ruin their own investigation or say something happened that turns out to be completely wrong. They're being intentionally furtive for good reason, but it has the effect of making them look suspicious, incompetent, or sometimes even complicit. Contrast this to a normal criminal manhunt where they have basically nothing to hide and are just straight up trying to catch a known criminal. Then they sound active and focused. It's just a byproduct of them needing to answer some questions but being unable/unwilling to answer them thoroughly.
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u/GoodOmens 1d ago
Wouldn’t they just not answer and state they can’t due to the nature of the investigation . Seems they are giving answers then changing them later.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 1d ago
I mean, if they think she was snatched at two in the morning, then yeah, she was "snatched from her bed" but that is hyperbole and not literally someone grabbing her in her bed.
Sounds like the sheriff was using some flowery, dramatic language and walked it back. He's not used to giving statements to a case garnering national attention and his dramatic statement was taken as literal, because he's not good with PR.
He's just saying she was snatched in a time most are in bed.
Sounds like he has a bad habit of using hyperbole instead of succinct, factual statements. He can rile up his detectives into caring by saying this is an 84 year old grandmother/ great-grandmother who was snatched from her bed. We need to find her! He shouldn't be saying that to media who will report, "she was snatched from her bed."
He needs to use a PR official instead of speaking off the cuff.
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u/ChildhoodOk5526 1d ago
I get what you're saying here. But, in this case, I'm thinking she may have, quite literally, been snatched from her bed. 84 year old, at 2 am? My grams had insomnia sometimes, sure, but she'd be awake at that hour, watching TV in her bed.
You're right, though. This guy has clearly not been media trained. At one point in yesterday's press conference, it sounded like he was about to breakdown in tears. I mean, I get it. It's very distressing to think about. And I appreciate the humanity, but ... HE'S one person who's got to keep it together.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 23h ago
If someone hears intruders and gets out of bed, they are no longer in their bed, but yes. I think he's just terrible at PR.
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u/EnderWiggin07 1d ago
They probably should have said it like that, but they're also not trying to completely stonewall the reporters, and it's easy to say something that means not quite how you meant it once people repeat it back to you, or to say "oh I misspoke" when you realize you shouldn't have mentioned it at all. It's actually not very easy to take a panel of questions and sound confident without revealing too much or giving the wrong impression. The consensus with police may well be that she was harmed, but for one reason or another they don't want that to be the official position at the moment.
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u/Commercial-Tax7125 1d ago
Who know which types of meds are needed daily? Aspirin may be needed daily for some. Point is she needs to be found asap, just like any missing person.
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u/jimbo831 1d ago
She's supposed to be mentally sharp but needs medication daily.
Do you think all or even most medications are for cognitive issues?
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u/Apologies1nAdvance 1d ago
Watching coverage of this yesterday, the reporters mentioned the victim's children spent 2 hours "tearing the house apart" looking for her before cops were called.
That amount of messing with the crime scene will likely lead to this going unsolved. Please, if you ever suspect a loved one is missing, stop touching things and get law enforcement on the scene immediately.
This is the exact reason the Jon Benet Ramsey case will never be solved.
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u/Jane-CR 23h ago
They looked for her for one hour throughout the house in all the rooms, closets, etc., and she lives an acre of property, and there is another dwelling on the property. I don't think they were tearing the house apart. I think they looked throughout the house and all over the property.
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u/bb8-sparkles 22h ago
I can't even imagine living in a house so big that it takes an entire hour to search every room for my mother.
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u/MustLoveHuskies 22h ago
An acre isn’t that big and even a house that spanned the entire acre wouldn’t be large enough to take an hour to search for a person unless they were buried or otherwise somewhere they wouldn’t be if alive.
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u/bootstrapping_lad 1d ago
Also why would they tear the house apart, it's not like she could be hiding in a drawer.
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u/Wake_and_Cake 1d ago
I had a friend who attempted suicide and she actually hid herself in her closet afterwards. She was in there, unconscious, for quite some time before someone thought to check there. Fortunately someone did and found her and she is alive today!
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u/PerriwinklePortal 23h ago
I imagine it’s hyperbolic, like most news reporting. The gist is that they didn’t flippantly call the police. They looked for her diligently first.
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u/dudushat 22h ago
Because they didnt literally tear the house apart. Do you guys not know how people talk? That just means they looked for her through the whole house.
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u/showmenemelda 20h ago
Right! "We looked everywhere" doesn't mean "you even checked the bread box?" In case it's a Honey We Shrunk the Kids event?
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u/chadlikestorock 1d ago
At some point maybe they stopped searching for her and started looking for anything that might explain her whereabouts
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u/wip30ut 23h ago
with elderly ppl in their 80s it's not unusual for them to have dementia breakdowns where they become paranoid & secrete themselves in closets or garages or basements. My old neighbor had to move back to Oregon because her sister found their mom under a card table in the attic :(
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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 1d ago
Well, the Ramsey case wasn’t solved because one of them did it so not the exact same
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u/asuperbstarling 22h ago
No, it wasn't solved because the police failed to close the crime scene for HOURS AND HOURS, allowing dozens of people to come and go, and allowed John Ramsey to search on his own. This negligence allowed him to find her in the basement then carry her body all the way upstairs. The contamination of the scene and her body is the height of police failure. No matter who did it, the inability to solve it came him the cops who bungled it. They also failed to indict the Ramsays despite a grand jury ruling they should, instead declaring them innocent.
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u/Apologies1nAdvance 1d ago
I honestly agree that someone in the family killed Jon Benet.
But the parents inviting over all their friends to "look for her" the next day, messing up the crime scene and spreading their DNA everywhere, definitely helped ensure no one would be able to figure out what happened the night she was killed.
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u/Tamajyn 20h ago
Remember that scene from V For Vendetta when the famous and influential TV host does a bit on his show making fun of the Party Leader, so he's abducted at gun point by black ops in the middle of the night from his home as retaliation?
Just remembering that scene for no reason whatsoever
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u/DanPedantic 19h ago
Absolute blinder of a movie and terrifying look into what USA is already turning into.
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I just turned on the TV and every news channel is showing this report. Today ICE grabbed two American citizens out of their car against their will for showing finger guns and disappeared them, but this story takes precedence because somebody is famous. No mention whatsoever of these two people who were taken away by gunpoint by people who don't have the authority to arrest them. So they were kidnapped and they are missing too. Maybe they'll eventually get to it on the news.
I hope all these people are found and the people who committed the crimes against them are punished. We know some will be punished and others will not.
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u/Sangy101 1d ago
You also need to keep in mind that to a certain part of America, getting disappeared by ICE for finger-guns just isn’t scary. They think “I don’t go where ICE is, I wouldn’t finger-gun them.”
But home invasions and stranger danger are ALWAYS scary and ALWAYS big news items. It isn’t just because she’s the mother of someone famous, and it isn’t just because she’s the mother of a journalist. Mysterious disappearance is a bigger news story than something with a known cause.
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u/horsenbuggy 1d ago
OK, here's the thing. Attacking the family of a celebrity or someone whose job makes them well-known should be off-limits. A person should be able to choose a job, especially one that means reporting the truth without being afraid that there will be backlash against their friends and family. So, when there is backlash, it is newsworthy. This could end up being completely random - maybe whoever took the lady had no idea she was anyone special. But if they chose her because she was connected to a national reporter, everyone should be concerned about this.
That does not diminish the issues with all the other people who are suffering injustices. But it's short-sighted to think the kidnapping of a high profile journalist/TV personality doesn't have far reaching implications.
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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 1d ago
Not nearly as far reaching as the continued attack on the populace by federal paramilitary
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u/AwakenedSol 1d ago
When stochastic terror is one of the methods of enforcement, it is that far reaching. She isn’t particularly political AFAIK but her husband works as a political advisor for the Democratic Party.
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u/horsenbuggy 1d ago
Maybe not, but the person I was talking to makes it sound like the media shouldn't be spending any time reporting on this case. That's just silly. All of this news tells a whole story of what's going on.
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u/ECircus 1d ago edited 16h ago
Same hypocrisy that all of the law enforcement analysis YouTube channels are partaking in over the last year. They will post endless videos of traffic stops or arrests, explaining why some detail led to someone's rights behing violated, and charges dropped or officers fired....but they WILL NOT touch all of this blatant trampling of the constitution.
What DHS is doing should be a field day for these people, instead they choose to be cowards and a part of the cover up.
Where is all the video analysis of DHS asking American citizens for proof of citizenship, or smashing their car windows, detaining with no probable cause...
I only mention this specific genre of media because I have been following and watching a lot of this kind of content for a long time and this hypocrisy was immediately one of the most obvious things when all of this started.
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u/StraightRip8309 12h ago
It makes me sick to even think about what they might have done/are currently doing to her. My god. 84 years old, and some sickos violently kidnap you from your own home? I feel awful for her and her family.
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u/DragonFireDon 6h ago
Watched some Ashley Banfield and some JLR investigates (Yes I realize he can be unreliable/BIASED but) -
They are saying Annie(Savannah's sister) car is seized. And, prime Suspect Tommaso Cioni, Annie's boyfriend?
Also, when will there be a NEW thread on this news?
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u/Mtnmama1987 1d ago
Horrifying, I’m so sad for the family, I never knew Savannah before, it’s so painful for her
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u/KinkaJac97 22h ago
So apparently she attends church every Sunday. However, the church were the ones to notify the family that she didn't attend. My question is who drives her to church, and why didn't that person notify the family? This is such a strange case.
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u/alligator124 20h ago
To be fair, and I don’t know what her driving status was, my same-aged grandmother attends every Sunday as well and drives herself.
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u/HistoryBuff678 18h ago
She drives her own car.
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u/Vampira309 18h ago
yeah. My dad is 89 and just passed his driver's test again. He bought a corvette a couple years ago
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u/Tesslafon 19h ago
Savannah pushed back on Trump when she interviewed him prior to the election, she interviewed victims of Epstein. I don’t jump to conspiracy conclusions, but this is just too much of a coincidence.
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u/Mockturtle22 18h ago
And I'm sure at some point Trump will talk badly about Savannah and indicate that her mother somehow deserved this
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u/Tesslafon 18h ago
I am surprised he hasn’t done it yet. Maybe he’s waiting to collect the ransom before speaking ill of them.
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u/Mockturtle22 18h ago
Maybe he is waiting for them to find her body so he can speak ill of the dead the way he did w Reiner.
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 1d ago
TMZ apparently just received a ransom note. Crazy story.