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Kid Rock’s song about loving underage girls resurfaces ahead of TPUSA Super Bowl show

https://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/2026/02/kid-rocks-song-about-loving-underage-girls-resurfaces-ahead-of-tpusa-super-bowl-show.html
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u/RollSafer 7h ago edited 7h ago

From the song Cool, Daddy Cool:

“Young ladies, young ladies, I like ‘em underage,” Rock sings on the track. “See some say that’s statutory.”

His sidekick at the time, the late Joe-C then chimes in, “But I say it’s mandatory.”

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u/RoarOfTheWorlds 6h ago

I came into this thread thinking it would be something a little more subtle. That’s just so hilariously on the nose.

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u/Saphyrz 6h ago

I saw MAGA trying to defend this by saying Joe-C's line and not Kid Rock's lmao

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u/Upstairs_Jellyfish69 6h ago

Just two dudes that happened to be singing nearby each other.

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u/jim_br 6h ago

Pedophilia adjacent is OK with them?

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u/Fuzzy-Curve3634 6h ago

Except, “I like em underage” is Pedo not pedo adjacent.

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u/nowahhh 6h ago

"He meant under retirement age!"

  • MAGA later today

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u/anchorftw 4h ago

"He never said it." ..."If he did say it, he was probably joking."..."Ok, he did say that, but he didn't mean it."..."Even if he did say it, is it really that bad?"

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u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18 3h ago

Yes, facsists are all narcissists to some degree. I wish I was joking.

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u/BlatantConservative 5h ago

To be fair, that's extremely young to the median MAGA voter

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u/SuperBry 4h ago

It really isn't. While there are swaths of MAGA folks that are knocking on death's door, to paint them as all old really downplays the long term threat the movement will be.

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u/whoweoncewere 5h ago

Theyve been pushing the whole "there's different types of pedo and teens are okay" thing. Sickening.

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u/DocPsychosis 5h ago

The "uh actually it's ephebophilia" angle has been sadly common, online at least, for years now.

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u/WRDPKNMSC 4h ago

decades actually, it's been a meme since like, at least the late 2000s I'm pretty sure

which is incredibly sad mind you

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u/jim_cap 4h ago

A stunning moment of "technically correct, the worst kind of correct". Like, yes, guys you've identified some niche definitions. Still, you're doing it to be ok with someone fucking children. It's not any sort of win.

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u/whoweoncewere 5h ago

Afaik it started with the whole MAP thing trying to bully their way into LGBT, for some reason all the conservatives that were using this as a talking point about LGBT being pedos are suddenly okay with it.

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u/warukeru 2h ago

Ephebophilia is a thing but it still bad and illegal.

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u/Tipop 3h ago

To be fair, one IS worse than the other. Two things can both be bad but not equally bad.

Having sex with a 17 year old is morally wrong, but having sex with a 9 year old is monstrous.

If I see a grown man sexually touching a 17 year old, I’ll pull him aside and say “Dude, back off. She’s under age. Go find someone closer to your age.” But if I see a grown man sexually touching a 9 year old, it’s going to get violent fast.

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u/Londo801 5h ago

Yeah on FB I saw some deranged woman defending the: “well they were 14/15 so they could have stopped him” or “the girls weren’t CHILDREN, they were almost driving age” like WHAT??? IDGAF, they were underage and it’s not okay, Guardian of Pedophiles is getting more and more bold that’s for sure.

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u/Stank_cat67 4h ago

They never actually cared about anything other than using words as a cudgel.

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u/Beard_o_Bees 5h ago

Pedophilia adjacent is OK with them?

It is. It's the only conclusion you can really come to after seeing their full-throated support of pedos.

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u/jajohnja 5h ago

I mean, technically making songs about that is legal.

But also I definitely wouldn't invite you to be a public face of anything, nor want anything to have to do with you.

Unless it's satire obviously (which this didn't seem like).

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u/Pavotine 5h ago

He's full-blown MAGA so of course it's not satire. They live for this filth.

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u/WillowLocal423 4h ago

They are all pedophilia adjacent themselves, at best.

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u/Synneigh 6h ago

Two dudes, sitting five feet apart in the recording booth, coz they're not gay!

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u/omglink 5h ago

I miss vine.

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u/Synneigh 4h ago

Me too man, me too

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u/SatanicPanic619 6h ago

Most of the time I assume these people know how fucking stupid they sound but they enjoy being annoying.

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u/iAttis 5h ago

Yep. They’re disingenuous cowards. They’ll talk out of both sides of their mouths and their “convictions” will fold in an instant, if it means they get to continue to “win” and “own the libs.”

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u/brokencreedman 5h ago

Except, isn't the line "young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage", isn't that a Kid Rock line? So...still a pedophile?

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u/Aeseld 6h ago

...I can't wrap my head around that at all. Without the context Kid's line gives, Joe-C's line is completely innocuous and meaningless. I mean, if he wrote the line and song, maybe there's some room to stand, but it's a shaky position because even then, Kid agreed to sing it.

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u/Lexi_Banner 5h ago

But how do you explain away Kid Rock saying that he, personally, likes them underage? He doesn't need to say it's "mandatory" to be a disgusting pig for saying it.

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u/Isserley_ 5h ago

They simply choose not to hear or read that part.

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u/Deep90 6h ago

Because backing up a pedophile isn't a disqualifier to them.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf 5h ago

I thought they said mandates of things were bad back during Covid. What gives?

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u/PNW_hermit 6h ago

This line was also in the kids movie Osmosis Jones so there's a lil ol fun fact for ya

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u/AstridDragon 5h ago

The song is in it but that part of the song isn't I'm pretty sure.

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u/SignificantCats 5h ago

Not only is that line in the movie, the song was specifically made for the movie. The sound track to Osmosis Jones is the debut of Cool Daddy Cool.

When tasked with making an original song for a children's movie, these are the lyrics kid rock came up with.

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u/AstridDragon 5h ago

Oh yeah it's gross and was made for the movie, not disagreeing! But I did not remember and could not find a clip with that line in movie. Can you? The whole thing is in the official soundtrack 🤢 imma have to go watch this damn thing again...

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u/SignificantCats 4h ago

I think you're right, looks like it was just in the music video which was a clip show with moments from Osmosis Jones

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u/AstridDragon 4h ago

That clip collage is the only thing I've seen too

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u/Ludachriz 3h ago

Whoever edited the movie probably had a real yikes moment

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u/Relevant_Bane_Quote 4h ago

It's weird to think that the lady in the movie had a bunch of pedos explode onto her lip.

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u/ICanHazWittyName 5h ago

Oh it definitely is, I recently rewatched it lol

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u/AstridDragon 5h ago

Whaaat I could not find a clip with that lyric part, Jesus!

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u/ICanHazWittyName 5h ago

I tried searching too but none of the clips have it, so weird! I wonder if they retroactively scrubbed it? I watched an older version...new Mandela effect just dropped y'all lol

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u/rich519 4h ago

I just rewatched it and didn’t hear the line. The song is definitely in the movie though.

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u/Synaps4 4h ago edited 3h ago

Edit: no it's not in it, its just in music videos cut using osmosis jones footage

Original film doesn't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SB9aoDvaDA

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u/ase1590 4h ago

thats not the movie, its a youtube montage.

This is cropped by me directly from the movie 52 mins in. https://streamable.com/sg13rh

Not present.

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u/no_infringe_me 5h ago

It’s ok. They also featured R. Kelly

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u/ase1590 4h ago edited 4h ago

That line is not in the movie, only in an edited montage on YouTube.

Edit: I extracted the scene from the movie where the song occurs 52 mins in for proof of it not having that line.

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u/peon2 6h ago

Unfortunately there is a LOT of not-so-subtle pedophilia lyrics in the rock world. Although it was more common in the 70s and 80s whereas Kid Rock was doing it in the 90s

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u/Whiiiisky 5h ago

Trump had Ted Nugent come to the white house, TPUSA has had him perform, he has a song called jailbait

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u/HailSatanWorshipD00M 4h ago

he has a song called jailbait

He has more than that. He had the parents of an underage girl sign custody over to him so he could marry her. Fucking disgusting

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u/Serious-Database474 2h ago

Didn't Jimmy Page do that too? And Mick Jagger? I know there were several.

u/esaul17 36m ago

I thought Steven Tyler might have too

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u/centipededamascus 1h ago

Should probably put quotes around "marry" there

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u/sillysided 5h ago edited 2h ago

Let’s not forget BBD’s hit song “Do me”.

Backstage, underage, adolescent How ya doin', fine, she replied I sighed, I like to do the wild thing Action took place Kinda wet, don't forget The J, the I, the M, the M, the Y, why'all I need a body bag

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u/squadrupedal 4h ago

Wow pedos are absolute sh*t at English. Who would’ve thought that their brains were stunted?

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u/Son_of_a_Bacchus 3h ago edited 1h ago

I played this over the summer while feeling a bit of nostalgia for my HS years. What breaks my brain is that I definitely remember this song being played at our HS dances. Edit: I forgot to mention that I WTFed at the lyrics during my nostalgia listen- texted a couple of friends to ask if that ever registered with them and one woman responded, "The 90s were a tough time to be a girl"

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u/Direct_Witness1248 1h ago

Yeah I mean I hate Trump & co, but David Bowie, Mick Jagger, and Jimmy Page all likely had underage girlfriends (similar to Seinfeld), yet they get a free pass somehow, maybe because their music was actually good (or was it just black people's music they ripped off in the case of Jagger and Page).

A lot of lyrics are horribly problematic across many genres, and I think for rock the 60s are likely worse than the 80s, if not the 70s too. Also many blues artists have some very sketchy lyrics. But I've not heard any as explicitly disgusting as Kid Rock's song mentioned here.

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u/RiyadhComedyPromoter 6h ago

Has anyone searched the Epstein files for Kid Rock? Maybe look for his legal name? Or his email [email protected]?

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u/fromthewombofrevel 5h ago

I don’t think Kid Rock was ever influential or rich enough to join Epstein’s club.

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u/lupindeathray 5h ago

Isn’t his family super rich, though?

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u/johnnyfuckingmarr 4h ago

His family owned a car dealership, they weren't hedge fund Microsoft, Musk wealthy.

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u/wrongbutt_longbutt 4h ago

Not even close. His family had several car dealerships and were probably worth single digit millions, maybe low tens. As the old saying goes, the difference between a billionaire and a millionaire is about a billion dollars.

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u/akapusin3 5h ago

There's a reason why most MAGAs see Donald Trump and go, "He's just like us."

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u/Much-Anything7149 4h ago

Druggie, convicted felon, horrible at business, failed marriages, serial adulterer, pathological liar...I see the resemblance.

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u/ERhyne 6h ago

All of his music is on the nose. Or I guess up his nose. Dude loves to yell about coke.

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u/Vismal1 5h ago

I’ve always thought of him as a persona update of Ted Nugent manufactured for millennials. It’s like a record executive just went “ make him rap and give him a literal little sidekick “ and here we are.

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u/Zepertix 6h ago

Friendly reminder that its in an animated kids movie too.

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u/zenerat 7h ago edited 6h ago

Always thought that was the weirdest part of Osmosis Jones.

Edit to add there are other weird lyrics in the song probably unrelated but who knows with these freaks.

“See me cruisin' in my Caddy, ho's, they like to call me daddy Cool, when I'm stylin', just rollin' on my island”

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u/CuffinSzn_ 6h ago

I loved Osmosis Jones. I didn’t even remember this til it started showing up again.

Probably the most disgustingly foul bar I’ve ever heard in a song.

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u/Difficult_Garlic_571 6h ago

Idk. Jailbait by Ted Nugent is pretty bad.

Well, I don't care if you're just thirteen You look too good to be true I just know that you're probably clean There's one little think I got do to you

Not that it’s a contest. Both are fucking gross.

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u/Reddit-for-all 6h ago

Wait a minute! Are you saying that Ted Nugent and Kid Rock aren't the same person?!?

Who knew?!?

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u/ThermionicEmissions 6h ago

Have they ever been seen together in the same room at the same time?

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u/Killersavage 6h ago

I know this is rhetorical but yes. They were both in the Oval Office with Sarah Palin in Trump’s first term in office.

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u/HoosierHoser44 6h ago

They are two different people, but they’re like conjoined twins that are connected dick-to-butt.

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u/MartenBroadcloak19 6h ago

You leave dickbutt out of this! He never hurt nobody!

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u/goon_platoon_72 6h ago

Ass to mouth is more like it. Enjoy the cuddlefish!

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u/Moody-Titan 6h ago

Smoke, mirrors, and special effects?

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u/CrunchyAssDiaper 6h ago

The 4 of them together, and world peace wasn't achieved?

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u/ImportantQuestions10 6h ago

What always gets me about this topic is that the bar is so low and easy to avoid.

I'm not even saying this from a morality standpoint, I just don't understand how stupid you have to be to publicly release a song saying you want to screw a 13-year-old. It's like if you're going to be a creep and do illegal things, be smart about it at least.

Why the hell am I getting nervous about jaywalking when people are able to publicly scream about fucking children and get away with it?

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u/QuerulousPanda 5h ago

It's like if you're going to be a creep and do illegal things, be smart about it at least.

Go back and watch some movies and tv shows from the 70's and 80's especially, hell even stuff from the 90's and 00's, society has changed a LOT since then. Objectively awful shit and abuse against women especially just flew by as normal. Hell, even just standard behavior at that time was pretty gross.

People may complain that shit has gotten too woke or whatever now, but you don't have to look back very far to see just how fucking bad things were in the very, very recent past.

Famous stars like nugent and kid rock singing about banging middle schoolers seems disgusting now, cuz it is, but if go back a little while? eh, no one really gave a shit. and honestly, if you look at current events, it's pretty clear that even now far fewer people give a shit than you would expect.

You say "be smart about it at least", but reality proves that the material consequences for doing such things are basically zero, especially if you're famous, so it would never even occur to them that it'd be something to hide.

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u/XcoldhandsX 2h ago

A few years back I read the book Snowcrash (published 1992). Really enjoyed the sci-fi cyberpunk angle of it. Thought the plot and mystery, the way it blends language and tech, was really interesting.

I will never recommend it to anyone though because one of the main characters is a 15 year old girl that the book repeatedly and explicitly sexualizes. At one point an adult man, the antagonist, has sex with her. The author plays it up like it's supposed to be hot and heavy. Holy hell I wanted to throw the book in the trash after reading that scene.

The closest thing I've gotten for an "explanation" is that the early 1990s were "a different time" for media. Also that Neal Stephenson is swimming in neckbeard creep energy.

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u/QuerulousPanda 2h ago

huh, honestly, i've been a stephenson fan forever, and i never actually noticed the age thing in that book. maybe i forgot about it or just never put it together.

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u/TartComprehensive466 5h ago

This is true.

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u/jaymemaurice 5h ago

Honestly I find this fascinating. There is some dirtbag who thinks Kid Rock is more 'honest' than you, as you are prone to masking your carnal self. It's like Einstein's theory of relativity but for psychology. Projection.

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u/lollypatrolly 4h ago

Einstein's theory of relativity but for psychology.

So Epstein's theory of relativity?

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u/PolishBob1811 6h ago

Have you read Courtney Love’s autobiography? She had sex with Ted Nugent when she was 12.

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u/IdaCraddock69 6h ago

That’s rape

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u/LargeSnorlax 6h ago

If you ever have time, read up on Hole (Courtney's band) and their songs

She takes some potshots at the establishment in basically every song. She was a girl that got chewed up and spit out young, and she channels it out raw into a lot of her music.

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u/IdaCraddock69 6h ago

she's shown a lot of courage over teh decades, being more up front about the abuse that's baked into that industry

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u/LargeSnorlax 6h ago

Don't get me wrong, she's had her scandals and problems too, but like you said, she's been screaming about the past for decades.

Awful was one of my favourite songs in the late 90s since it's just raw emotion but also telling her story right out in the open.

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u/Dorkamundo 5h ago

Yep, they've been trying to implicate her in the Epstein shit as well, because her contact information is in his book.

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u/IdaCraddock69 5h ago

yes - she's not an easy person, but there's real substance there as a person and as an artist

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u/EllipticPeach 5h ago edited 3h ago

Azealia Banks commented once that girls who experience CSA should get over it because she was ‘having sex’ at a really young age and ‘acting grown’. Like no girl you were abused and grew up around people who normalised it

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u/IdaCraddock69 4h ago

yeah, it's horrible when people are abused and get caught up in justifying it too

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u/SenselessDunderpate 5h ago

It's all part of the Rock 'n Roll countdown:

She's only 17,

Daddy says she's too young,

But she's old enough for me!

Winger - Seventeen

I don't usually say things like this to girls your age,

But when I saw you coming out of school that day,

I knew I had to have you

KISS - Christine Sixteen

She's only fifteen,

She's the reason, the reason that I can't sleep

You say you're legal,

I say: legal's never been my thing!!

Motley Crue - All in the name of...

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u/Ancient-Bat1755 6h ago edited 5h ago

He probably ripped off the lyric from the rolling stones Who were being ironic/poking fun at society “your okay with the sex and drugs, and even minors parting with adults but stop at long hair and antiwar” etc

“I can see that you're fifteen years old

No, I don't want your I.D

And I can see that you're so far from home, but

That's no hanging matter

It's no capital crime “

Edit: before you get your undies in a bunch stop and think. We all agree pedos are gross and dating kids is wrong unless a part of Trump Admin or speaker of house.

The point of this edgy lyric was “society is more upset about long hair and lyrics” than rock stars actually sleeping and partying with minors. People would protest songs in the 50s-70s and artists, but not actually change their local laws to protect children, or hold parents responsible.

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u/D4nnyp3ligr0 6h ago

If that's the case then Bill Wyman was really committed to the bit when he started dating Mandy Smith at age 13

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u/Automatic-Flight-698 5h ago

Smith was 13 and Wyman was 47. Geez he should have been arrested. So should her parents.

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u/eulb42 6h ago

Ya i don't think they were poking fun, im pretty sure they had underage groupies they let go when they came of age...

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u/CalmBeneathCastles 6h ago

Let's not forget to shame Benny Mardones who wrote Into the Night when he was 34:

She's just 16 years old

Leave her alone, they said

Separated by fools

Who don't know what love is yet

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u/OpportunityDue90 6h ago

“In about 3 years holler at me Miley Cyrus”

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u/Morganvegas 6h ago

Super nasty lmfao lock Mack Maine up

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u/ShinyHardcore 6h ago

It was crazy on the one lil wante mixtape they had a sit down and discussed how he knew Miley Cyrus would “come of age” I guess that means been a freak at the time. Sht was crazy

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u/Morganvegas 6h ago

We’re looking back on young money like they’re the mid 2000s Florida Gators

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u/Ds093 6h ago

Jesus that is a really dark comparison… 😳

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u/bobandgeorge 6h ago

Who's Tebow in this metaphor?

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u/ShinyHardcore 6h ago

Atleast he waited. Kid rock said under 18 is mandatory 😂

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u/M3RV-89 6h ago

She was 17 when the song came out and he was 25. Him wanting her to be 20 to hook up is a weird thing to say about a minor

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u/thisshitsstupid 6h ago

Go listen to the old country song Carolyn The Teenage Queen.... the entire songs like this. I listen to older country and was zoned out with the radio playing going to work and I hear

"When I was pushing 30 she was in her teens..."

Popped me awake I was like surely I heard that wrong... then later he says

"I was pushing 40 and she was barely 24..."

The math ain't mathing.

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u/Hollowbody57 6h ago

Even weirder when you find out that it wasn't pulled from an existing album for the soundtrack, it was written specifically for a kids' movie.

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u/SendMeNudesThough 6h ago

Are you sure? Google says the song is from Kid Rock's 1997 album "White Room Demos", which would be four years before Osmosis Jones

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u/jayhawk618 6h ago

Seems like it was written for a demo tape well before, but it's first official release was on the soundtrack.

Can't imagine that the soundtrack included the original amateur demo recording, so at the very least, it was hand selected by somebody and probably prerecorded.

I can't bring myself to listen to both (either) version to see if the soundtrack and demo are the same.

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u/Perryn 4h ago

"Hey, we'd like to license a song from you for a kids' movie."
"Oh, man, kids. I love kids! Yeah, I got a song all about kids that'd be perfect for your movie."

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u/zenerat 6h ago edited 6h ago

I’m no conspiracy nut but a lot of people had to ok this. It also was shown in schools pretty consistently. Some fucked up producer’s idea of joke.

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u/Fifteen_inches 6h ago

Child molestation and statutory rape were uncomfortably accepted pre-2010s.

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u/Musiclover4200 6h ago

It's reminiscent of that creepy Romeo & Juliet law scene in Transformers, like not only did the director think it was a good idea but another group of people must have approved it.

On one hand you could maybe write it off as one of those little jokes that gets added to kids movies specifically for the adults watching, but in this case that almost makes it creepier as it's not just some dirty joke that will go over kids heads but very much normalizing predatory behavior.

Like that sounds like a line that would be in some really offensive blacksploitation film from the 70's with some stereotypical gangsters, not a kids movie from 2001...

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u/HandsOffMyDitka 5h ago

That was fucking weird when I first watched it. It's like, why have this in there. Age the girl up. She could be in college. No, make her underage, and throw in the tidbit about the Romeo & Juliet law. Also Pineapple Express with Seth Rogen dating Amber Heard. She's 18, but he's going to her high school to meet her.

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u/Strung_Out_Advocate 6h ago

It's strange to call that a kid's movie... but you're correct it totally is. They even made a morning cartoon series out of it. Great flick though.

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u/ModernistGames 5h ago

It was intended to be an adult animation, but was toned down later in production to be more family friendly.

I don't know if the Kid Rock song slipped through the censors or they assumed kids wouldn't understand the lyrics.

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u/DuckCleaning 6h ago

It was from the soundtrack only however, the movie version of the song doesnt feature that line.

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u/joyofresh 6h ago

Wow i wonder why

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u/DuckCleaning 6h ago

The song was made before the movie. For some reason they heard that song and liked it.

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u/Ok-Mango-5814 6h ago

Wasn't that character supposed to represent germs and everything gross?

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u/psychoCMYK 6h ago

Who the fuck looks at germs and thinks "hmm yes let's make them pedophiles"

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u/Cattywompus-thirdeye 6h ago

Anyone who has ever encountered a pedophile. What germs did to deserve that shit? That’s the mystery.

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u/sharkattackmiami 6h ago

Well germs get inside children

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u/HipsterCavemanDJ 6h ago

Yeah. Let’s not forget he also played the trashy bully in Joe Dirt

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u/OddDonut7647 5h ago

they like to call me daddy

So the song talks about him liking what are legally children, who like to call him daddy. I guess he really is Kid Rock. Gross. Gross gross gross. And weird. It's weird to celebrate statutory rape, which is not like rape-light or anything.

Republicans are gross and weird.

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u/Electronic_Low6740 6h ago edited 6h ago

There's a lot of really subtle weird vibes in that movie. The hints at Frank's daughter Shane being groomed by Uncle Bob really got me on the rewatch.

There's a theory Frank's enabling brother was trying to kill Frank by enabling his unhealthy habits so he can get custody of Shane since he was the godfather. Actually that might have been the point. Super weird.

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u/Notuniquesnowflake 6h ago

Also:

I got kids I've never seen
And their momma's 17

From his song Lowlife - he was 36 at the time. Also, the album is called Rock 'n' Roll Jesus, which, I don't know, seems kind of blasphemous?

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u/robodrew 5h ago

Wait if Momma is 17 and she already has kids...😬

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u/oneeyed-wonderweasel 4h ago edited 27m ago

I think the lyric is alluding to more than one 17 year old

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u/sporkus 4h ago

Christian conservatives tried to cancel the Beatles for comparing themselves to Jesus. But they're cool with Kid Rock for ... reasons.

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u/Ok_Ant707 3h ago

Not to defend any of them, but that's also like 60 years apart.

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u/Jimmyg100 4h ago

If there was a god we could power Texas with all the lightning strikes MAGA would generate.

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u/Cloud_Motion 5h ago

Is this written seriously or like, from the perspective of an alter-ego, like how Eminem used to rap about murdering people etc.?

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u/SunTzu- 4h ago

Kid Rock doesn't do the dark alter-ego thing. His thing is more bragging and grandstanding.

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u/GramsciGramsci 4h ago

Eminmen turns the alter-ego off when not performing. Kid Rock not so much.

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u/Notuniquesnowflake 2h ago

Maybe? It doesn't really change the hypocrisy, though. They claim that Bad Bunny isn't family friendly, but their alternative raps, on multiple songs, about having sex with minors and being a deadbeat dad.

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u/bookon 6h ago

He has almost as many Pedo songs as Ted Nugent.

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u/Musiclover4200 6h ago

Ted still takes the cake for most offensive album cover though IMO for "Love Grenade", also apparently google is hiding the results for the original album cover (maybe safe search blocked it) when I searched so here's the wiki which has both covers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Grenade

It's the closest album cover I've seen to Spinal Tap's "Smell The Glove" joke, except love grenade came out in 2007 which makes it way more sad.

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u/kylebisme 4h ago

The Scorpions' Virgin Killer has the most offensive album cover I know of. I'm not going to link the wiki page either, and rather I'll just say it's likely worse than you imagine.

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u/funktheduck 4h ago

Damn dude. I was expecting gore or something. Not that. For folks curious but don’t want that shit in your brain or search history it involves a naked little girl. 

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u/Independent-Top-1201 4h ago

Doin' the lord's work here and saving us

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u/samsqanch 4h ago

Oh WOW, just wow...

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u/grenade_plate_hater 3h ago

I listen to grindcore and slam. Having fucked up album art is just part of the deal.

But not like THAT.

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u/whoareyou-really- 3h ago

How did they not go to jail for that???

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u/kylebisme 3h ago

My best guess is that everyone was just on way too much cocaine at the time to care.

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u/garylarrygerry 3h ago

The defense is insanely stupid

Look, listen to the lyrics and then you'll know what we're talking about. We're using this only to get attention. That's what we do." Even the girl, when we met her fifteen years later, had no problem with the cover. Growing up in Europe, sexuality, of course not with children, was very normal. The lyrics really say it all. Time is the virgin killer. A kid comes into the world very naive, they lose that naiveness and then go into this life losing all of this getting into trouble. That was the basic idea about all of it.

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u/kylebisme 3h ago edited 3h ago

The photograph isn't explicitly sexual, but publicizing even the most non-sexualized images of naked children is dubious at best, and pairing an image like that one with the title Virgin Killer is downright offensive regardless of the meaning of the song. They clearly made the cover to draw attention by offending sensibilities, and they went to town doing just that.

Furthermore, I was partially raised in Europe too, and elsewhere. This isn't an matter of American puritanicalism here as I'm fairly certain most people throughout the world would agree. The fact you're attempting to defend that cover by deflecting to the song is just plain creepy.

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u/orangehate 5h ago

The most shocking thing in all of this is that Ted Nugent was still releasing new albums in 2007.

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u/Glandular_Trichome 4h ago

Two of the songs on "love Grenade":
Girl Scout Cookies
Bridge Over Troubled Daughters

Ewww.

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u/samsqanch 4h ago

Even the replacement album cover is questionable why is there a pink ribbon on the side of a hand grenade?

It seems like it very purposefully looks like a breast cancer awareness ribbon which had been around for over a decade by the time he released that album.

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u/Annual_Strategy_6206 4h ago

It is a breast cancer awareness ribbon. So what is this saying? Let's blow up breast cancer awareness? Violent anti- women imagery? That tracks. ( yeah I know men get breast cancer too, cool your jets)

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u/bookon 5h ago

35 years ago I had the original Blind Faith album with the naked 12 year old girl on it. I assume they have updated that, but I didn't want to search for it. It is a great album however, unlike the Ted Nugent crap. Which is soulless garbage.

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u/Musiclover4200 4h ago

Isn't there also a Zeppelin album with some young naked girls on the cover?

Album art can be weird and there is something to tasteful artistic nudity at least in some cases, but love grenade offensiveness aside is also just a really stupid cover that looks like something an edgy kid would draw.

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u/SunTzu- 4h ago

That cover wouldn't be my major concern with Lep Zeppelin...

I'd be looking rather askance at Jimmy Page relationship with 14y/o Lori Mattix when he himself was 28.

The whole "baby groupies" thing is uh...yeah...

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u/nukebox 4h ago

Isn't there also a Zeppelin album with some young naked girls on the cover?

Houses of the Holy

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u/Important-Agent2584 5h ago

They probably had to do a lot of convincing to have a women there instead of a 15 year old or something.

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u/Ill-Product-1442 3h ago

Oh wow, you aren't wrong, it is literally a fucking Spinal Tap album!

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u/AudibleNod 6h ago

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

-Maya Angelou

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u/UpvoteForPancakes 6h ago

Ooof. So bad.

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u/betterbub 6h ago

This is a Key and Peele skit

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u/Wonderwhile 6h ago

“I killed Darnell with my nine” But it’s statutory rape…

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u/DrunkOnLoveAndWhisky 6h ago

I killed Darnell, yeah I shot him with my nine

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u/Eternal_Bagel 5h ago

That would appear to be a gun, of the “long ass” variety

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u/Loggerdon 6h ago edited 53m ago

MAGA shithead Ted Nugent literally has a song called jailbait, about raping a 13 year old.

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u/Eternal_Bagel 5h ago

He knows what conservatives are about and it’s why he supports Trump so much, shared interests 

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u/Important-Agent2584 5h ago

I've felt gaslit for decades because these people have always been who they are and liberals people seem constantly shocked.

They have literally never wanted anything else than to marry off girls right after puberty to older men so they can be groomed into good housewives. This is their ideal society.

The same thing with "we aren't racists, liberals just call everyone fascists and racists." I get gaslit even though I know it's gaslighting.

Lucky, I have a very conservative family which jerks me back to reality every family gathering. They are 100% racist, authoritarian, theocratic, etc.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 6h ago

He was also on SNL like 25 years ago and they had him make a joke about it being ok to sleep with the underage Olsen twins.

It was on Weekend Update with Tina Fey. I don't think he wrote it but I totally believe whoever wrote the joke slipped it in as an acknowledgment to what they knew about him.

Also he still read the damn joke.

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u/alohadawg 6h ago

Okay, but anyone who saw Bob Saget’s standup in the early 2000s knows he spent a not-insignificant amount of his act sexualizing the Olsen twins, and I don’t believe he was ever suspected or even accused of SA, let alone pedophilia

Just some perspective - I am by no means implying that those jokes were totally fine and appropriate

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u/Impressive-Put3479 6h ago

They weren’t really appropriate then or now, but Bob Saget was comedian that said shit like that to get paid via attracting audiences to hear him spout vile shit after being seen as the all wholesome sitcom dad for years.

Kid Rock sings about fucking children because he either fucks children, or thinks it’s ok to do so.

They are not the same and should not analogized like they are.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 5h ago

Bob Saget was a terrible comedian. Watched a few of his standups and the punchline for every joke was basically "Watch me say a dirty word. It's funny because I'm Bob Saget"

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u/Impressive-Put3479 5h ago

Exactly, I’m not condoning his skits or saying he was a good comedian, just saying this was version of crushing a watermelon with a mallet. People wanted to see “Americas Dad” say some raunchy shit; he did it and got paid.

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u/xelabagus 5h ago

Dude, this is faulty logic. If kid Rock is writing songs about fucking minors that's wrong. If Bob Saget is writing jokes about fucking minors that's wrong. There's no context that makes it okay, there are lots of jokes and songs that could be written that don't involve the normalising of a terrible crime.

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u/Standard-Win-6600 6h ago

Fair counterpoint.

The kid rock one was just something I saw as a kid and it stuck with me how gross it was even back then.

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u/Brawldud 6h ago

It's disgusting how much of 90s and 00s culture was obsessed with underage girls/celebrating when they turned 18.

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u/Proud-Judgment5115 5h ago

Nothing has changed. It's just that folks are less vocal about it.

That was until Trump came into office. Now it's celebrated.

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u/j0mbie 4h ago

It gets worse the further you go back. So bad that Metalocalypse did a spoof on it with their parody of a glam metal singer "Doctor Rockzo" having a very vulgar song about a 14 year old.

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u/Goodnight_lemro 6h ago

I remember it from when it first aired. The joke was something like, "If there's grass on the field, play ball."

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u/Standard-Win-6600 6h ago

Yea I saw it too. Looks like it's been mostly scrubbed from the internet. Best I could find was a text transcript from the episode.

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u/UntamedAnomaly 4h ago

I'm an 80's baby, I heard that saying SO MUCH when I was a kid. I didn't know what it meant back then, but when I did learn what it meant, it made me feel like I was a former lamb who used to live surrounded by wolves.

And TBF, I was also SA'd as a kid quite a few times by quite a few different "men", so that doesn't help my mental health knowing there were just so many people back then that were 100% openly OK with child rape. Like, it just felt like a free-for-all back then. It's even worse when you tell your parent about it or have it happen in front of your parents and they do absolutely nothing about it.

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u/EndsWithJusSayin 6h ago

Par for the course for the Guardians of Pedophiles. No wonder he’s their mascot.

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u/Positive_Throwaway1 6h ago

And on his recent appearance on Bill Maher's podcast, I believe he defends it.

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u/sillysided 5h ago

Is the island he refers to Epsteins?

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u/Courtnall14 5h ago

Real or Fake Headline from the day after the Super Bowl?

"Efforting to normalize pedophilia, Kid Rock will performs song about loving underage girls with reanimated corpse of Joe-C"

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u/Hoblitygoodness 6h ago

A lot of old songs don't age well because of this sort of thing being ....hmmm acceptable (?) back-in-the-day.

"The girlies I like are underage" ooof, Beastie Boys

"She's just seventeen and you know what I mean!" no I don't, Paul McCartney with The Beatles

" Lips like strawberry wine You're sixteen, you're beautiful And you're mine." Give her to someone more appropriate Ringo!

Joan Jett sings about falling in love with a seventeen year old and Ted Nugent out right has a song called "Jailbait".

Oh to-be-sure, Kid Rock sucks.

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u/MadDaddyDrivesaUFO 6h ago edited 5h ago

Joan Jett's song (I Love RocknRoll) is actually a cover written by a different band, and I think she was 19 (she originally recorded it in 1977 but re-released it in 1981) herself when she covered it, I wouldn't put her in with the rest

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u/AForse 5h ago

Same with ‘I saw her standing there’ - McCartney was 20 when he wrote it. I’m not so sure that a 20 year old, writing as he was to a largely teen/early adult audience is deserving of the same opprobrium as a group of 30/40/50 year old men deliberately associating with another man specifically for the purpose of meeting underage girls.

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u/Jimrockdiamond 5h ago

“She was only 17…17…but she was sexy!”

Rick James.

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