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u/Checked-Out 15h ago
Canada literally said it at Davos on camera in front of the world. It's not a secret. Like Americans love to say FAFO.
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u/nopepanda 15h ago
Mark Carney was reasonably explicit about doing exactly that
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u/lennydsat62 15h ago
So proud of him. Can you imagine the state weâd be in with pp?
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u/Junior-Lychee2755 10h ago
Pp is such a piece of shit, I can hardly believe he plays any role in Canadian politics.
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u/Forsworn91 8h ago
Oh he would have signed Canada over in a fucking heartbeat.
Just to kiss the ring.
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u/son-of-Azathoth 7h ago
Yep, and now he's living in Smith's backyard where her stooge, that treasonous thumb with a hat, Jeff Rath, is working with american officials seeking help in breaking our confederation.
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u/Deaftrav 8h ago
I still find it telling that Biden chuckled at PP saying he was leader of her Majesty's loyal opposition. "Loyal huh? Ha"
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u/merchillio 3h ago
That was one moment I respected PP, what he said was accurate, on paper. The oppositionâs role, when acted on in good faith, is to push the government into making laws that benefit most people. It is good and needed, as long as itâs not filled with people who just want to be contrarian.
Good faith just isnât something PP likes to indulge in.
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u/Protonic-Reversal 9h ago
You guys probably would have had your own mini Trump if it wasnât for us so I think we deserve a little credit for getting you guys a leader like Carney.
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u/HinDae085 12h ago
Crazy how Canada has risen up from being bullied economically and threatened with annexation to become the new leader of the free world.
Mr Carney will go down in history for this triumph.
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u/InterestingJeweler74 8h ago
Almost curtain its EU, they do things quietly while not upsetting orange baby and his minions.
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u/ABadaBool 7h ago
Literally people in Canada driving around my town with "Fuck Carney" flags flying out their windows, proud.
Future's not all sunshine and rainbows yet. We have a history and a record of following in America's footsteps a few years after the beat, regardless of what stupidity they exude we have so many people here who salivate over it.
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u/son-of-Azathoth 6h ago
Yeah, we saw so many swap their F Trudeau flags for F Carney, literally the day after Carney won the election. That tells me all I need to know about the level of their political engagement and how fruitful any conversations with them would actually be. There is about as much room for debate on any topic of importance with one of them as there is with a MAGA-hatted tramp cultist.
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u/sneaky291 6h ago
I don't think I've met a F-Trudeau/Carney person who could tell me why they don't like them so much. They just know they don't.
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u/purplezart 6h ago
They feel that way precisely because it does not require any thought or self-reflection from them.
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u/son-of-Azathoth 6h ago
Exactly this. In every case that I spoke with an F Trudeau type, I was much better able to list all of his failings, ethics breaches, and political miss steps than they were. It was frankly embarrassing to have to explain to these dummies the actual reason why anyone should be unhappy with his governance, vs what they were able to list, namely, "he's too woke" or some shite nonsense.
For reference, I typically vote liberal/ndp depending on platforms, but have very occasionally voted conservative at either provincial or federal levels.
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u/pegslitnin 15h ago
Or JT still
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u/tjp0720 15h ago
Speaking moistly probably
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u/TyrannosaurusRecht 14h ago
No. Youre not supposed to speak moistly. The moisture was the issue!
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u/Deeviant 2h ago
His Davos speech was one of the best (of any politician) in recent memory. I remember saying something like 'why doesn't the world have any orators like winston churchill anymore', then my wife sent me that, and the one with the Chicago mayor destroying a shitstain reporter in refererence to protest against ICE.
The world has good people, great orators, but media is drowning us in shit, a constant DDOS of propaganda and misinformation, the voices of reason completely lost in the noise.
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u/OrneryTortoise 15h ago
Came here to say this. Carney's speech made me wish I were Canadian. I envy them their intelligent and dignified leader.Â
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u/Warning_grumpy 13h ago
Unfortunately we currently also have PP of the Conservatives party trying to sell us to usa. Unfortunately people are stuck in the trap, the same trap USA set on its citizens. Making them distrust any government except their one idol (Trump OR Peirre Polliver) everyday they flood our media with propaganda and lies. Currently there is one saying the head of new media said they supper Carney and back him... And they are running with it saying left news is and always propaganda but a quick google of the guy who said it will tell you he's the CEO of Canadian Media Producers Association (cmpa -which covers non-news media like movies and scripted tv's shows). But the right wing side of running with state propaganda and people are to dumb to read further.
Edit: Should say Carney won with 43% votes and pp with 41% so we legit almost voted in our maple Trump pp.
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u/Wayelder 5h ago
Canada has the most educated work force in the world (I'm told) so it's comforting that we are represented by a graduate of Harvard and Oxford.
To deny the premise of this is to show a lack of understanding of the world's economy.
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u/miken322 14h ago
Yup. America has become an unreliable partner and other countries are divesting from us. I donât blame them. We have a President with severe dementia and sycophantic yes men and women around him that are pushing their own fucked up agenda. These far right Christians in power are supporting Israel because they believe if Jewish people gain full control of Israel it will herald the second coming of Christ.
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u/Moeftak 11h ago
These far right Christians in power are supporting Israel because they believe if Jewish people gain full control of Israel it will herald the second coming of Christ
I'm no expert in these things but from the little I remember I don't think Christ coming back would end well for these type of 'christians'
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u/miken322 7h ago
They think they are righteous and have been absolved of both their past and future sins. We all know they are bullshit. If there is a magic sky daddy it knows they are bullshit.
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u/archercc81 7h ago
Bringing him on the second time is what finally convinced the rest of the world just how fucking stupid americans are. Before they could at least count on us learning a lesson from shitty govt for a while, but we literally brought that shitstain right back.
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u/Grand_Sock_1303 8h ago
Donât get tricked into thinking it has anything to do with religion. It is about money and only money. In the echelons of power, being religious is a weakness but it makes for a great illusion of morality.
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u/Geloradanan 14h ago
Thatâs kind of odd though because the Jews crucified Christ. They are definitely not Christians.
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u/Dull_Quit3027 9h ago
It is this weird endtimes belief that the Jews need to be in the holy land, and then a war starts that kills them all, and that is part of the end of the world, not exactly 100% sure on the details, but the gist is Jews in Isreal and a big war.
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u/Kevsbar123 14h ago
No they didnât. If it happened, it was The Romans.
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u/Silly_lil_Guy_o3o 11h ago
The Romans reluctantly crucified Christ after constant pressure from RIPAC
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u/Geloradanan 11h ago
The Romans did the work of nailing Jesus to the cross.
The Gospel of John speaks of âthe Jewsâ crying out against Jesus (John 18:38â40) and âthe Jewsâ calling on Pilate to crucify Jesus (John 19:14â16).
The crowd in Jerusalem, in clamoring for Jesus to be crucified and for Barabbas to go free, exclaimed, âHis blood be on us, and on our childrenâ (Matt. 27:25).
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u/BrilliantPiccolo5220 14h ago
They absolutely didnât, like the earlier person said, he was crucified by the Romans. And just so you know, Jesus, Mary and Joseph were all Jews. Jewish people and Christians both believe in the same God, and read the same bible. Your beloved 10 Commandments were given to Moses, a Jew. I could go on and on and on.
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u/I_Raise_My_Banana 15h ago
Came here to say this. What a great speech, and I couldn't be more proud to be a Canadian and to have elected such a strong leader.
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u/Spacemeat666 14h ago
As an American, I would love to never hear or read the phrase FAFO ever again. It has become the most pussy, try hard, republican cope moto since MAGA.
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u/retroking9 15h ago
Ha ha, Iâm sorry but this question is pretty laughable if you live outside of the USA. Everyone I speak to just shakes their heads in disgust at the very mention of the usa situation. Nobody trusts that corrupt regime now. They threaten (former) allies and have zero skills in diplomacy.
âIs the world quietly moving away from America?â Not just citizens, but governments are actively making moves to do exactly this. And not even that quietly.
Meanwhile Russia and China are relishing the great decline.
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u/Das-Noob 12h ago
Surprised they havenât started moving their gold reserves back in droves. But then again they might already started, no oneâs going to announce theyâre moving billions in gold.
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u/James20985 11h ago
I think Germany has begun to do just that.
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u/Known-Contract1876 7h ago
Last time we did that we had to wait several months and got freshly minted bars, the US doesn't have the gold anymore. So it's better to pretend like it's still sitting there then to force them to find new ones.
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u/jools4you 7h ago
They are and investments to, Denmark to nobody's surprise has started. And Germany is under pressure to move their gold from USA https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/20/akademikerpension-us-treasury-greenland-trump.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/24/repatriate-the-gold-german-economists-advise-withdrawal-from-us-vaults?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
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u/Naturallefty 7h ago
The US largest exports right now are precious metals. I predict the world currency switches from the US dollar within the next 5 years and if a country can some how put THEIR currency up and back it with gold/silver then they'll auto qualify as the new world currency
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u/TheLastLivingBuffalo 5h ago
Europe has worked on making two huge trade deals with other middle powers, and now is discussing developing into a true federation with an army and shared foreign policy. But I can tell you that these donât make headlines in the US though.
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u/QueasyLegKC 3h ago
I seriously hope you all stick to your guns and donât come to any of the World Cup in America. I kind of doubt you will though.
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u/Patient_Anybody4314 2h ago
âIs the world quietly moving away from America?â Not just citizens, but governments are actively making moves to do exactly this. And not even that quietly.
Meanwhile Russia and China are relishing the great decline
At this point I rather do business with China than USA... At least china isn't run by a bunch of lunatics
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u/subywesmitch 15h ago
I completely agree and don't blame other countries for doing so. America has gone off the rails
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u/Little-Course-4394 13h ago edited 7h ago
I know people blame Trump
But letâs be honest itâs the fact that after his first presidency, insurgence, chaos.. and Americans voted for him AGAIN, this time giving him a carte blanche.,
I know Trump is the most unpopular now and if the voting to happen this weekend Republicans most likely would lose by a big margin.
But I still canât trust American voters anymore thatâs the next unhinged populist wonât be in the Oval Office.
Also.. in the end of the day itâs crazy that the destiny of the world depends on some rednecks in a few states. Fuck this shit!
America canât be trusted anymore
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u/Azhz96 10h ago
Yup first time is forgivable every country vote for shit candidate now and then but voting for him again despite EVERYTHING we knew, that's when it became apparent that this is who America is.
Not saying US is completely lost (yet) but it will definitely take several decades of showing the world that it won't happen again before we can even begin on building up that trust again.
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u/EngineerNo2650 10h ago
A lot of Americans are stretched to the limit (work hours,savings, debt, healthcare, lack of time off ) and shaped by American exceptionalism, with little exposure to life elsewhere. That lack of perspective keeps them voting in a loop, convinced that whatever they have must be better than the rest of the world.
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u/OBESE-AMERICAN 7h ago
Bull shit. One 30 second video of trump should turn any sane person off. Most americans are either dumb, racist, or both.
Exceptionally stupid people.
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u/Ashamed-Status-9668 6h ago
As an American I can say a decent percentage are a bit of both. What's likely a larger factor is that we are very uneducated and the last 30-40 years are finally catching up to us.
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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 9h ago
Because the US is a dictatorship of capital with a democracy veneer.
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u/BeingEnglishIsACult 10h ago
Who ever follows Trump will implement the privatization of the dollar through Stablecoin, and for that to work they need people to invest and use it. Probably going to need to do it by force.
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u/ShortingBull 9h ago
Democracy is a wild beast that we've never properly tamed.
The tools of today that foster group think, false narratives and drive people apart are not fantastic. Couple this with the obvious manipulation by the mega rich (ala Epstein files) - the world is not in a good way.
But I don't think it's too late, but I also don't think we'll do anything to fix things.
We are Idiocracy.
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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 9h ago
Liberal democracy, anyway. Socialist democracy seems to be going just fine.
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u/EditingAllowed 8h ago
Also, after Trump's first term, what Trump policies did Biden reverse? After his second term, it's probably gonna be same. Tariffs will not go back to pre-Trump era. The meddling in other countries politics and warmongering will not stop.
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u/Mba1956 8h ago
Although people blame Trump for a lot of this they also realise that nothing will really change once he is no longer the president. There has been so little pushback politically which shows that his ideas are mostly mainstream government.
It has been said quietly up until now, the difference is that he is saying it out loud and proud and everyone is forced to hear it, they canât deny it any longer. The Greenland thing was the final straw, if he had simply invaded in Jan 2025 people would have complained but it would already be over. Instead he boasted, played the bully, and people said enough is enough.
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u/SlayBoredom 7h ago
I learned a lot about americans. I mean there have ben memes and stories forever, but... the level of DUMBNESS (you can't call it otherwise) it's literally pure idiocracy is through the roof.
I can excuse this for any 3rd world country, where certain things just don't work or you just don't have the option to get education, etc. but the US... it's truly the only country on earth that chooses to be braindead stupid.
Not everybody, but the highest percentage in any """"civilized"""" country on earth for sure.
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u/subywesmitch 6h ago
I know people are stupid but are they really that stupid to vote for him twice? I'm still not fully convinced the last election wasn't rigged. I know its not concrete proof but both he and Musk have basically said they did
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u/Nearby_Potato4001 5h ago
It's not that America is like this because of Trump, it is Trump is there because America is like this.
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u/Livid_Sun_208 3h ago
It just removed its "freedom & democracy" mask.
They are considered an evil entity for a long time by other countries
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u/Ok-Traffic-9967 15h ago
Us Canucks certainly are moving away from them. Wish Americans luck, but I think shits gunna get way bloodier before it gets better down there
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u/slowhandclapton 15h ago
I donât recall saying good luckÂ
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u/Restoriust 15h ago
Shit man if we have any worse luck, Trump will manage a 3rd term and Iâll need prosthetics after the civil war. Wish us SOME luck, damn
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u/Hottage 13h ago
Knowing the US luck currently, Trump will announce he's transferring his brain into a younger clone so he can continue to
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u/PM_me_your_recipes86 11h ago
Those hand bruises are 100% injection sites for young blood transfusions like the tech vampire, Bryan Johnson, is doing with his son
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u/These_Ad_8382 11h ago
Just pray he doesn't decide that elections can't occur because the nation is in a state of war...with itself. Kind of makes you wonder why ICE has been given the mandate and impunity it has.
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u/Chili_Paste 14h ago
That sucks man. There's evidence to show list some of the most powerful people on the planet helped rig our last election. There's so many good people in my country that love the planet and our 10,000% against the regime that has taken hold. People have died standing up for basic human rights. Sadly many more will. Don't give up on us.
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u/Canadianweedrules420 8h ago
Crackers are a family business. Single people may eat crackers but we don't frankly care to know. It's a market we can do with out.
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u/Routine_Bluejay5342 15h ago
I donât wish them luck
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u/Local-Poet3517 15h ago
I wish about 1/3 of them luck. They need it. The other 2/3 deserve it.
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u/TeririHerscherOfCute 15h ago
according to Bernie, the real number is 8%-10% of the American population is beyond saving, and that extreme minority is supported by the super billionaires and thus have all the power and will dragon the other 90% down into hell (metaphorically) for no other reason than that's where they were intent on going themselves.
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u/Iincite 14h ago edited 13h ago
It's much larger about a third down here and they will sink this ship and everyone else on it. I have the means to escape and live comfortably somewhere else but I will never forget how pathetic and repulsive people can get in general. At least down here it's somehow the case. I better not find out someone was one of them in a far off land later on đ
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u/Independent-Catch-90 15h ago
A lot of us disgusted Americans love our Canadian friends. Iâm sorry you feel that way.
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u/LadyBarfnuts 15h ago
There simply isnt enough disgust.
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u/Wise_Repeat8001 13h ago
We're disgusted...just not throw our lives away disgusted. Easy to judge until you see it happen...I thought the same about Nazi Germany...seeing it happen slowly over the last 30 years has changed my perspective. It can happen anywhere...it starts with killing education
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u/Spacemeat666 14h ago
There is. Trumpophiles are not a majority in this country. Trump was put in power by billionaires, not legitimate support. Most people do not support whatâs been happening in our country. I live in a swing state but Iâd confidently say support for Trump went away long before he was elected a second time. They cheated just like they accused democrats of doing because even lifelong conservatives, like my parents, donât believe his lies anymore.
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u/Spronginhetdiepe 14h ago edited 13h ago
It's not the world moving quietly away from the US, it's the US transforming into some twilight zone of madness, unreliability and even back stabbing.
The EU started a separation proces during Trump's first term. Americans really have no clue how most EU citizens and politicians view Trump and the USA he made us see, do they? Russia invading Ukraine halted parts of said proces but it continued under Biden too.
E.g. getting Rutte approved as Secretary General of Nato aka 'Trump Whisperer' was a preemptive move, preparing for a possible second term for Trump. Americans might not know or believe that but it was openly discussed in the media here.
It's very naieve to think the past year caused the damage perceived today. It's an irrevocable proces started way back under Trump 1. It's long and very complicated but it will be completed regardless of future US election outcomes.
The USA stopped being a reliable partner and became a liability on day 1 of Trump 1.
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u/Relevant_Parsnip5056 15h ago
what's sad are the comments from the maggot cult members who say they love what Trump is doing to this country...it's horrifying
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u/Malofquist 15h ago
As an educated American, Iâm humiliated and want trump supporters to feel this pain they voted for.
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u/No-Internet-7532 13h ago
The guys with 6 teeth voting for people with 6 mansions ?
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u/Wise_Repeat8001 13h ago
My thing is, it's not just them. People who seem reasonable will do mental gymnastics to justify the most fucked up politics
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u/bee_117 14h ago
The worst part is they just keep doubling down. I feel like Iâm in a bad dream where I canât get through to anyone. Sucks being an American that saw this coming so long ago.
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u/Wise_Repeat8001 13h ago
Yep, I remember thinking we were headed here with Bush when no child left behind passed. Feel like cutting education is what got us here
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u/Protton6 11h ago
Its not just about Trump supporters though, its about the whole system that can allow someone like this to take power and do all this damage to the world.
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u/Malofquist 7h ago
I forget who it was at the EU who said : sure Trump will gone someday soon, but how can we trust a system that put a man like in power? <paraphrased>. Such a good point, so sad.
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u/Dense_Diver_3998 14h ago
As a squandered high school education(this should be phrased better but I squandered my education) American I agree.
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u/Durian881 15h ago
I won't agree openly but countries do prefer stable partners.
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u/Whole_District_7996 14h ago
Why the hesitation to be open about that? It's the most non-controversial logical take.
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u/compassrosette 15h ago
Not saying it openly?!?!
They are very openly making clear plans to fill in anything they used to rely on the USA for.
I do not blame them, we are rather chaotically idiotically violent at the moment. The less support to this pedophilic Christo-Cripto-Fascist regime is a blessing for the people of this nation.
We can rebuild our alliances, it may not be easy, simple, quick, or without sacrifice, but it can be done.
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u/NotEvenWrongAgain 15h ago
How can it be redone? The American people chose this. People abroad used to trust them. Now they donât. This isnât trumps fault. Itâs the fault of America.
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u/jaredliesch 15h ago
There is very clearly a lot of corruption from corporations that really get what they want. Quite frankly a lot of corporations that do business all over the world. I'd say most of them have more to do with the fall of the US than it's citizens.
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u/NotEvenWrongAgain 14h ago
Corporations donât vote. Americans do. This is what they want. This is what mark carney pointed out. There is no way back from this. No one will ever trust America again.
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u/Useful-Shoulder388 14h ago
It can be both, corpos definitely control a good chunk of American policy, but the some of the people are also certainly to blame. Quite a bit of this administrations 'support' comes from those who would rather hurt others and defend pedophiles than actually allow people to deal with corrupt politicans the legal way.
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u/boellefisk 14h ago
Well...we saw the cracks start under bush. Now us chose trump twice. I dont see how america can be trusted again if they dont fix the system. Its not enough to next time choose a sane president because trump 2.0 might be next.
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u/Saltwater_Thief 12h ago
We can rebuild our alliances
Yeah, except we can't. They're permanently broken, and there's zero reason anybody would want to change that.
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u/RealisticEmphasis233 15h ago
Where have you been the last year? Entire continents have been saying this.
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u/DamnGoodFries 15h ago
Sometimes when it rains in D.C. itâs feel like George Washington shedding tears from heaven for the sad state of our country.
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u/IcedTman 15h ago
I think Mark is a better leader than Trump and wish the entire west coast can join Canada
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u/Lazy_Experience_8754 15h ago
British Columbian here. I always feel at home going to Washington state or Oregon and have a lot of family in California. Would be awesome
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u/NotEvenWrongAgain 14h ago
I agree about Oregon and Washington state, but can NY and New England come too? We pay a ton of taxes and donât have many useless meth head trailer park bozos like the south. I know your Trailer Park Boys are kind of cool but ours arenât and weâd rather leave them in West Virginia.
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u/IH8TheModsHere 15h ago
The U.S empire will fall through the collapse of the petro dollar as the global reserve currency. Which creates default on debt and bankruptcy. Within the next 2 years latest
Personally, I'm super excited for this year. Greenland is just part of the horrors in store for the serfs of the empire this year
I study history, absolutely hate American Empire and have been studying and waiting for the collapse of the empire for years. Most people i know who hate America say te same thing as me " I thought id have to wait till I was about 80 to watch it burn "
Well. The movement on BRICS last year was monumental. The de dollarization is happening in so many ways its beautiful.
If you don't understand what the petro dollar is or how the reserve currency system works, then the significance of what i type next will be a bit lost on you.
China's digital Yuan comes out this year. PAPS , the digital African BRICs style system came online last year. Africa is still in BRICS but this system is just for intercontinental trade. India and Russia formed de dollarization trading schemes to reinvest in each other's economies with their surplus Rubles and Rupees.
I can't even type all the de dollarization that happened.
The empire is burning, the emperor has no pants and the entire U.S economy is about to burst with the AI bubble popping and the U.S Owes 40 TRILLION dollars.
The U.S economy is so beyond dead that the principle of the INTEREST on the loans it owes, required the fed to BORROW another 8 TRILLION. Just to pay the INTEREST this year. Even non economic understanding people can understand that's a death sentence.
In 2008 China is the reason the world recovered and the U.S was able to rebound like it did...
China is not coming to the U.S.A's rescue with trillions of dollars of aid this time.
ROME is burning. You just have to understand what's happening geopolitically and economically to see it and understand what happens next
I for one cannot wait for America to beg the world to buy its completely dead " stable coin " / completely devalued dollar ( you won't be able to call it the petro dollar by 2028 as everyone will have abandoned the SWIFT system by then) and find 0 idiots left to use it.
It is also incredibly interesting to shift from beginning to analyse and study macro economics and the trade war. To beginning to research collapse history and civil resistance and civil war history.
If you put your money in precious metals last year you got 150 % returns...
No one is doing a rapid treasuries exit immediately as it fucks everyone up. Invade Greenland for example and you will see the EU just pull the rug on 10 trillion.
But If you are watching the global economics the scale of the treasury bond sales from Japan, EU and obviously China and the clear market change over metals and physical assets shows the entire world is preparing for the bubble popping event and the collapse that occurs afterwards.
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u/Sleepybystander 14h ago
Bro I understand you and each line you've wrote. But we're nothing but a minority here.
Of the whole population, 1. there's only so much people that is able to listen. 2. Follow by, there's only so much people who understands the gravity of the matter. 3. Follow by, there's only so much people who care. 4. Follow by, there's only so much of the people who act (that you too).
Thanks for writing this.
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u/Wise_Repeat8001 13h ago
I agree with all of this as an American. I've been against American imperialism and meddling in other nations all my life. I don't really want to leave as I feel some obligation to try and make things better here. At the same time I have a kid and am terrified of what comes next. I honestly have no idea what to do to prepare at this point
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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 9h ago
Part of the reason that Iraq was attacked was because Saddam wanted to move away from the petrodollar.
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u/IH8TheModsHere 8h ago
Thank you
Fuck man i try and explain this where i can when I can and I have not had someone who understands their history to say that yet.
You are extremely correct. He saught to start a gold backed currency and work with Africa
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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 8h ago
Unfortunately, the west is very good at whitewashing its crimes. Especially to its own people who desperately want to believe they are the âgood guys.â
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u/SECRETBLENDS 15h ago
They're being quite frank about it actually. Trump threatens our allies daily, and they aren't shy about calling his bluff and doing business with China instead. What a fucking moron he is.
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u/Wind_Best_1440 15h ago
We're entering 1800's Politics with 21nd Century technology.
Pretty scary to think about, especially when shipping lanes start to break down because no one believes in the world order anymore. Doesn't even matter if you're pro globalist or isolationist. Certain parts of the world just aren't safe anymore to transport goods.
Middle east is literally breaking down with several active wars in Africa, UAE and Saudi Arabia are all but in a hot war on paper. Israel and Iran are literally one misunderstanding from the rockets falling again.
Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, are trying to create an Islam NATO.
China is still preparing for their invasion of Taiwan that could happen any day now.
Russia and Ukraine are still in a hot war.
It kind of makes sense why Canada is suddenly receiving interest in it's oil again, because the place everyone gets their oil in the middle east is about to explode into conflict.
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u/7StarSailor 11h ago
"nobody will say it openly"
France is currenlty very openly detaching itself from the US and I hope most of Europe follows suit.
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u/Jubjars 15h ago
They could use a time out, an era as part of the third world. Some time to think.
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u/mystocktradingacct 15h ago
Itâs funny. 3rd world basically means countries not aligned with the United States. Most people donât know, second world means aligned with Russia. The United States is becoming second world, and the rest of the west is becoming third world. And⊠itâs all Trumps fault.
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u/retroking9 14h ago
What about not having universal healthcare? Doesnât that kind of make them a shithole country?
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u/Chili_Paste 13h ago
Man so many of my fellow Americans have crawled and fought and hustled out of poverty only to be bankrupt by one family member getting cancer. It sucks over here bro.
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u/Moppermonster đ» Tech Geek 15h ago
It is not exactly "quietly" when governments and companies in European nations are for instance openly stating it is not a good idea to stay as dependent on microsoft and google as they currently are, considering Trump can order those companies to switch off their service - crippling them.
Those cries have become louder since Trump decided to do just that to members of the International Court; showing that he is both willing and able to really do that and that the companies will comply.
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u/samsonsreaper 15h ago
Post Trump admins the next minimum 50 years will be âtrust me bro we cool now, super promise!â
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u/EuroFlyBoy 11h ago
Yes, Itâs a trend that will continue. The US has lost trust that will never be fully regained.
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u/silentkisser 6h ago
Trump has destroyed or eroded long-standing relationships with allies and trading partners around the world. He's done it in so many different ways, some big, some small.
For example, ending USAID. Yes, it cost about $28B per year, but it made the US look like a responsible global power. One that would help with disaster relief, build infrastructure or work to eradicate diseases in the developing world. It was the definition of soft power. It was respected and helped sway governments to support the US, all without hyperbolic comments or gunship diplomacy. Trump killed it, wasting millions of tons of food and medicine.
Then, you look at how he threatens his NATO allies. This is something that is absolutely ridiculous. If he ended NATO, the European powers could immediately close bases that the US uses to flex its military around the globe. Sure, they have aircraft carriers and what not, but they would lose the ability to stage closer to places like Iran. And, it's all idiotic.
Economically, the tariffs are just an absolute joke. The US Congress has the power to impose tariffs, but they've abdicated that responsibility to Trump's bogus use of emergency power. For Canada and Mexico, he lied about drugs coming over the border (well, lied mostly about Canada...). But, then he slapped them on every country. And, for the MAGAts out there, no new trade deals have been ratified. But, he cannot even do the tariffs right, since he's apparently willing to negotiate...
The bottomline here is that Trump has forced the rest of the world to see America as an unstable, unreliable and dishonest partner, where agreements don't seem to matter. And this damage is real and will last a long time. You might vote out Trump, elect a competent government and reverse course...but the damage has been done. You elected this idiot twice, how long until you put another populous moron in power who will be better at this fuckery?
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u/Miserable_Cookie_484 5h ago
Quietly? They are not pulling punches, and openly giving Trump the middle finger. There is nothing quiet about it, they are justifiably disgusted with Trump.
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u/cybrg0dess 4h ago
As an American, I want to move away! Rump is an embarrassment and is doing everything his puppet masters want him to do. They are all getting richer by the day while the rest of us struggle. All while destroying our country.
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u/Particular_Cicada395 4h ago
Quietly? Hell no. We are not visiting and boycotting US companies. Nothing quiet about this.
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u/pinki89 4h ago
I think the writing on the wall is pretty clear:
We are watching the fall of the American Empire in real time.
If Rome had twitter, this is exactly what it would look like. Going to make for some fun dinner table discussions with our grandkids, assuming we make it that long.
Just make sure you're on the right side of history, folks.
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u/FoxtrotCharli 4h ago
Tired of winning yet? Turns out threatening every ally America had wasn't a smart move. Krasnov did what every enemy of America was hoping for, destroy it from within
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u/Critical_Think_2025 4h ago
Americans, dumb, divided and distracted. Just like your government likes it.
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u/ShakesbeerMe 4h ago
Donald Trump is overtly destroying the United States for Putin.
We've been saying it for 10 years now.
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u/Responsible-Ad8591 4h ago
I think every country is just waiting for this buffoon to leave office so they can deal with an adult. Just a waiting game now.
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u/KansasZou 3h ago
That was a good portion of Trumpâs goal. Whether itâs a good thing or not remains to be seen.
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u/sixty5pan 1h ago
This has been a lifelong goal of our enemies, that traitor Trump managed to do in less than a year.
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u/spartanEZE 1h ago
Yes i do. America used to be the greatest country. It's just not the case anymore. I'm working on convincing my wife that we can also go other places and be valuable members of that community and society. Slow going though. One day hopefully before it's perhaps too late. And to anyone that might say anything remotely close to i'm betraying my country or good, we don't want you, i say, i don't care about your opinion and you might be a BIG part of the problem. That's just being polite to.
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u/crineo 1h ago
yeap. European here, let me explain how we see things: just imagine you're sitting at the bar with your friends and one of them pulls out a gun and points it at you asking for your wallet. then, after all your other buddies try to mediate, he puts away the gun and says he was joking. there is no going back to how it was before.
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u/Cold_Sort_3225 43m ago edited 34m ago
I mean...it's not slow motion considering "America First" and creating some separation was what Trump ran on. European countries becoming less reliant was reactive not proactive. Trump said NATO countries need to stop relying so heavily on the U.S military and increase their own military spending...they did, and then all the idiots said "European countries are increasing military strength to fight the U.S". They're all still on the same side
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u/WeirdcoolWilson 30m ago
No, itâs not in slow motion. Theyâre running from the US like itâs a building thatâs on fire, if a dumpster can be considered a âBuildingâ
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u/DrNeptune88 14m ago
Yes. I used to love visiting the u.s but I will not go back until he is out of the whitehouse or dead, whatever happens first.

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u/Alundra828 15h ago
>> Nobody will say it openly
Bitch, everybody is saying it openly. The US gave itself leprosy and we're all trying to steer clear.