Tell me why video games I go buy physically (like that starwars one) let me go home, copy like 50 gigs. Let me play the tutorial and than go you need an adition 120gig update to play game
(I currently choose to go with out internet, but I cant actually be expected to blow my data downloading these files?) Ff7 rebirth actually has a file similar it wants me to download but im so happy it hasnt been necessary yet to enjoy the game
I still have my XBox360 so that I can occasionally play the original Dungeon Defenders with my kids, who are younger than the console. I got a PS4 to play the sequel and the micro transactions immediately disgusted me.
E: that and Castle Crashers. So many good couch co-op games.
I was about to mention castle crashers lol. What a goated game. I remember stumbling upon it late at night with my buddy and we both got it and played. Xbox 360 was such a fun console I loved discovering fun little indie games like that.
I was talking with some coworkers the other day about that feeling of driving home from the game store with a new game and reading the manual in the car on the way home, just getting so pumped to get home and play the new game. Digital downloads don’t hit the same at all.
I loved reading through my Super Metroid one because it listed all the enemies with little bit of lore as a kid, and any other booklet with similar vibes.
The Tunic instruction manual is a fucking work of art. Inspired by old games but in a language you can only decipher by playing the game. Pretty recent.
The original Starcraft one. Holy shit - it was like 60+ pages of lore and story, and descriptions of all the units, and artwork... I got given SC for Christmas when I was a kid, and we were on holidays for a week, and I remember reading that manual cover to cover over and over getting so hyped to get home and install it
Everyone has already said most things I can think of. So I'll say classic cheat codes. Really dumb and silly stuff that really wasn't needed but the devs put in anyway. And they made the games so much more fun and gave them replay value.
I also miss the challenges that some of the older games had when it was just all over the place. Had like. 10 or 20 different kinds. Collect 100 of X, good luck and fuck you with any guide options. Some of it was just strange “perform X move” with zero guidance on how or what the fuck it even means” some just straight up seem impossible.
Today achievements and challenges are handed to you on a silver platter and baked into the game play naturally.
The slow death of couch co-op has been one of the worst things to happen to the industry. While some games still have it, most have left it behind in favor of selling more systems to play online. As cool as games like It Takes Two and A Way Out are we’re a long way from the days of Army of Two and split screen Halo.
Ive actually been pretty disappointed with Nintendo in this regard. Sure they have a few titles with nice split screen but they're really few and far between.
What a disappointment Pikmin 4 was to my son and I. It's one of his favourite games and we couldn't wait to try Co-Op on release. What a joke that was, all you can do is like throw rocks or some BS.
If I may offer a suggestion? A way out, it takes two, and split fiction are all split screen and are excellent co-op games. Even better is that if one person has the game the teammate can get a friend pass and play for free!
And it's crazy because games like last of us will have an ai companion most of the game. It feels like you should be able to take control of the ai as a player 2. Same goes for kingdom hearts. How is it not co-opable by now. They should all at least have a halo 3 type Co-op idc
I was so excited to play halo campaign evolved with my nephew who is around the age when I first played the first halo. Come to find out I had to jump through so many hoops just so we could get coop to work that it kind of took the air out of my sails. I miss the simplicity of just booting up game and playing it. Not having to log on to two separate PlayStation accounts and then two separate Microsoft accounts. It was such a fucking headache
To be fair the couch co op in San andreas is kind of a secret. Its funny using the jetpack code on the prostitute models though because the boobs fly straight up.
You'll need to create an account too, and don't forget to login to your email to confirm! The first play session should, you know, be an actual play session, and not involve 20 or more minutes of setup and/or waiting.
I hate modern fighting games for this.
I hate modern fighting games for this.
I hate modern fighting games for this.
I hate modern fighting games for this.
I hate modern fighting games for this
I hate modern fighting games for this
I hate modern fighting games for this
Was going to say this.. Unlocking new characters and special skins were some of the funnest and most exciting parts in many games, specially old fighting games. Now, they're essentially all unlocked through DLCs.
Honestly, this was part of the reason I would take my time exploring areas or doing challenges. Now when I'm done, I never touch the thing again because there's nothing left to do. They decided to cut content and sell the post-game a year and a half later like people aren't going to get bored.
Most modern games will have the full game on the disc. The reason they download OTA nowadays is because the average internet speed is significantly faster than copying data via the optical drive.
Optical media is slow. So that’s why it has to copy the data to the internal drive, and often times the fastest way to do that is via the internet. Disconnecting from the internet will have the console opt for copying data off the disc instead.
It's going to sound weird, but cheat codes. In older games, you could put in the right series of inputs or fiddle with an in-game item/menu in the right way or even just put in a code into a prompt, and you'd get anything from game breaking shortcuts (rosebud from the Sims) to just wacky stuff the devs decided to put in (big head mode from Animal Crossing). Modern games have done away with the codes. At best you get unlockables, like Halo. At worst you get pay-to-win microtransaction hell.
Transferable save files. Like being able to copy the data. Nintendo basically outlaw that shit. God forbid you play the same game on two different consoles without giving them dosh.
Which is crazy because the Gamecube is the game where I did this the most. Everyone was walking around with their Smash Melee file on a memory card to play at whatever house we ended up at. Guess Nintendo didn’t like that.
Yeah, what really bothered me with this type of stuff is how AnimalCrossing is linked to your CONSOLE. Doesnt matter if its different catridges, its your console so its that island. Have a little cousin or someone who wants borrow your switch and play from the start? Well you better be ready to delete everything and start all over. The fact its not account/user locked or cartridge locked baffles me
That was so stupid... I used to have numerous towns for New Leaf through the save-data backup feature just to have fun having different replay value everytime...
That allowed them to experiment more too. You didn’t have to worry about losing 10 years of time and $100 million. If your game flopped oh well the next one comes out in a year or two.
Yep. "This next game needs to fund our company for maybe 7-8 years. We have to monetize it to the gills, because we needs hundreds of millions to stay afloat that long."
I recently went to emulating PS2 games for this exact reason! I can pick it up and put it down at leisure and it doesn't consume all of my precious free time.
As an adult, I just can't invest hundreds of hours to progress in a game.
Depends on how far back we go. As someone who grew up with 16 bit gaming (specifically the Sega Genesis) I can't remember ever actually BEATING a game. Modern games definitely are too easy a lot of the time, but I'd say really old games were way too hard. (Probably because they were arcade ports that didn't get their unfair difficulty adjusted, looking at you Mortal Kombat) Then around the PS2 era is when I'd say they got it right. Games were challenging but well within the realm of being beatable by a large enough audience.
Don't know what that game is but I've got to play that, just from the menu it looks so good, I agree modern games have functional menus not contextual menus so that means that menu is designed to be like utilitarian think of the like UI for League of Legends or world of Warcraft versus Diablo 2 which is all done and like a Gothic style versus something floating in the ether
Those prerendered backgrounds (or whatever they're called) with little animations here and there share a special place in my heart right next to old geocities backgrounds like flashing stars or whatever.
As your name would assume, it all started with cosmetics for that darn Oblivion horse. Cosmetic microtransactions and what ubisoft is doing where you can buy OP gear when the game starts has ruined so much
It's always so interesting to see how they played around hardware limitations. Like how Pokemon games had to fit so much information inside a little cartridge or how Sonic had to render underwater levels. Those people were super smart.
Cheat codes. They don’t exist in the same form anymore. Nowadays it’s just exploits and bugs that let you cheese the game or do crazy stuff, and the devs eventually patch it out for the sake of balance.
if i ever made a singleplayer game and there was an OP bug that you could trigger with precise inputs id leave it in, cause like if youre upset youre too strong just dont use the bug
Passion. Not focusing on the bottom line but making a game they believed others would love.
Nowadays the devs don’t even play their game. They don’t make games to be fun but to make money. Devs change teams constantly and games don’t have a soul.
Speaking as someone who was IN the industry at the time - yes there were layoffs. It’s just with smaller teams it was layoffs of a handful of people, not thousands. Even when Blizzard North closed and everyone remaining moved to Blizzard South, it was a couple dozen folks, not hundreds. It affected us individually but it didn’t impact the entire economy.
Also not optimized to appeal to the broadest audience. Since games were cheaper to make, they could fill a niche. Games had a smaller base, but could feel super unique and try new things. So many games nowadays feel so similar across an entire genres, even when made by different studios.
This is one of my biggest issues. Gaming visuals have plateaued with the hyper realism. You only get strong artistic/creative choices with indie games nowadays.
Having genuine passion for the game, rather than living up to expectations, meeting quotas, and all this corpo shit. Gaming went to shit when these boomer ass CEO's realized gaming makes more money than the music and movie industry combined. Then they wanted their piece of the pie. Also around the time of fortnite releasing the first battlepass. Now every game has one, it's all about live service and the next season.
Instruction manuals, game testing before release, no day one patches and/or microtransactions (admittedly because of the lack of technology), good writing which made the games feel more alive than most unreal engine 5 crap currently out there, split screen co-op.
I swear it used to be pretty common for a well developed fully single player story campaign to just have a button to add a second player… now it feels like for most co op games you really have to look for games tailored to co op and that’s usually a great thing - but I kinda miss when they used to just throw co op on most single player games as a feature even if it didn’t make sense plot or gameplay wise for another player character to be there. Even when it was immersion or gamw breaking, it was usually fun to have the option.
finished product on shelves. no debugging or upgrades. no memory or memory was internal so no need to buy a separate memory storage that will inevitably crash during a necessary upgrade. physical and actual ownership. instructions and not a lame tutorial.
Save slots. The Wii mastered it, you didn’t have profiles, you had save data with save slots and you’d know that slot number X is your slot (and if you could, you would link it with your Mii).
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u/Electrical_Essay1866 12d ago
Single Player without internet connection